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Title: limping miggy please help
Post by: westy on 16 October 2009, 20:52:05
hi guys haven't been here for a while . just got my miggy back off my dad, after three years its an 98 opel 2.0cd 16v with problems, ie head gasket wishbone bushes no hand break, will do these my self but here's the puzzling one, eml light is on, engine wont rev past about 3500, code reader says cam sensor so changed this for new after market one. no change so forked out for genuine one still no change, car seems to start ,and run OK not as smooth as i remember but head gasket is blowing slightly,  any help would be much appreciated all the best westy :) 
Title: Re: limping miggy please help
Post by: rustym95 on 17 October 2009, 00:38:38
after market one's wont work, has to be a MG, try this http://www.vauxallparts.co.uk/?option=Prod_detail&product_id=113 this should work. for cam sensor :y see there are two types, one that dont work and the othere that dose, if you just gave them the code to get your new cam sensor the one on the sensor you will get the mod one but if you gave the vin number you would of got the old type witch wold work some of the 98's are the new one's but maybe yous is a 96-97 as its been in storage till sold, so would be the old one. :y
Title: Re: limping miggy please help
Post by: Entwood on 17 October 2009, 00:41:10
Rusty .. if you read his post he's already tried a GM one ....

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hi guys haven't been here for a while . just got my miggy back off my dad, after three years its an 98 opel 2.0cd 16v with problems, ie head gasket wishbone bushes no hand break, will do these my self but here's the puzzling one, eml light is on, engine wont rev past about 3500, code reader says cam sensor so changed this for new after market one. no change so forked out for genuine one still no change, car seems to start ,and run OK not as smooth as i remember but head gasket is blowing slightly,  any help would be much appreciated all the best westy


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Title: Re: limping miggy please help
Post by: feeutfo on 17 October 2009, 01:11:46
head gaskit blowing slightly? If its failed its failed. Do you really mean head gaskit? Or exhaust manifold gaskit?
Title: Re: limping miggy please help
Post by: westy on 17 October 2009, 10:27:52
no its definitely the head gasket no 3 plug is spotless thanks any way, oh and thanks rusty but i have tried both, the later with the newer plug and lead supplied by the opel dealer , thanks for posting that link will probably price some other bits from there prices look very resonable i payed €95 for the last one, rip off ireland i guess
Title: Re: limping miggy please help
Post by: rustym95 on 17 October 2009, 13:26:01
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no its definitely the head gasket no 3 plug is spotless thanks any way, oh and thanks rusty but i have tried both, the later with the newer plug and lead supplied by the opel dealer , thanks for posting that link will probably price some other bits from there prices look very resonable i payed €95 for the last one, rip off ireland i guess
what is your ecu number, that also helps finding the right cam sensor, simtec 56.0/56.1 are the orignal, not the new type. same with the crank sensor.old one not new type.
Title: Re: limping miggy please help
Post by: dbug on 17 October 2009, 13:27:39
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after market one's wont work, has to be a MG, try this http://www.vauxallparts.co.uk/?option=Prod_detail&product_id=113 this should work. for cam sensor :y see there are two types, one that dont work and the othere that dose, if you just gave them the code to get your new cam sensor the one on the sensor you will get the mod one but if you gave the vin number you would of got the old type witch wold work some of the 98's are the new one's but maybe yous is a 96-97 as its been in storage till sold, so would be the old one. :y

You say aftermarket ones no good has to be genuine GM (MG  :)) yet you post a link for a non genuine cam sensor  :-? :-?
Title: Re: limping miggy please help
Post by: rustym95 on 17 October 2009, 13:32:10
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after market one's wont work, has to be a MG, try this http://www.vauxallparts.co.uk/?option=Prod_detail&product_id=113 this should work. for cam sensor :y see there are two types, one that dont work and the othere that dose, if you just gave them the code to get your new cam sensor the one on the sensor you will get the mod one but if you gave the vin number you would of got the old type witch wold work some of the 98's are the new one's but maybe yous is a 96-97 as its been in storage till sold, so would be the old one. :y

You say aftermarket ones no good has to be genuine GM (MG  :)) yet you post a link for a non genuine cam sensor  :-? :-?
it is a genuine GM I have one to day. :y
Title: Re: limping miggy please help
Post by: dbug on 17 October 2009, 13:34:03
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after market one's wont work, has to be a MG, try this http://www.vauxallparts.co.uk/?option=Prod_detail&product_id=113 this should work. for cam sensor :y see there are two types, one that dont work and the othere that dose, if you just gave them the code to get your new cam sensor the one on the sensor you will get the mod one but if you gave the vin number you would of got the old type witch wold work some of the 98's are the new one's but maybe yous is a 96-97 as its been in storage till sold, so would be the old one. :y

You say aftermarket ones no good has to be genuine GM (MG  :)) yet you post a link for a non genuine cam sensor  :-? :-?
it is a genuine GM I have one to day. :y

No its not on that link -

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"Camshaft Sensor MVAP90458252

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Camshaft Sensor 

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Genuine Vauxhall Part: No.
Equivalent to: 90458252 (93171450)
Guarantee: 12 Month Replacement.
Condition: New
Packaging: Plain Packaging
Delivery: 1-2 Working Days "

Taken directly from your link!!
 
 
 
Title: Re: limping miggy please help
Post by: rustym95 on 17 October 2009, 13:38:38
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after market one's wont work, has to be a MG, try this http://www.vauxallparts.co.uk/?option=Prod_detail&product_id=113 this should work. for cam sensor :y see there are two types, one that dont work and the othere that dose, if you just gave them the code to get your new cam sensor the one on the sensor you will get the mod one but if you gave the vin number you would of got the old type witch wold work some of the 98's are the new one's but maybe yous is a 96-97 as its been in storage till sold, so would be the old one. :y

You say aftermarket ones no good has to be genuine GM (MG  :)) yet you post a link for a non genuine cam sensor  :-? :-?
it is a genuine GM I have one to day. :y

No its not on that link -

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"Camshaft Sensor MVAP90458252

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Camshaft Sensor 

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Genuine Vauxhall Part: No.
Equivalent to: 90458252 (93171450)
Guarantee: 12 Month Replacement.
Condition: New
Packaging: Plain Packaging
Delivery: 1-2 Working Days "

Taken directly from your link!!
 
 
 
that is there number the part number is (yellow) siemens. and thats what has come after market dont work wrong signal.
Title: Re: limping miggy please help
Post by: tunnie on 17 October 2009, 14:17:50
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after market one's wont work, has to be a MG, try this http://www.vauxallparts.co.uk/?option=Prod_detail&product_id=113 this should work. for cam sensor :y see there are two types, one that dont work and the othere that dose, if you just gave them the code to get your new cam sensor the one on the sensor you will get the mod one but if you gave the vin number you would of got the old type witch wold work some of the 98's are the new one's but maybe yous is a 96-97 as its been in storage till sold, so would be the old one. :y

You say aftermarket ones no good has to be genuine GM (MG  :)) yet you post a link for a non genuine cam sensor  :-? :-?
it is a genuine GM I have one to day. :y

No its not on that link -

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"Camshaft Sensor MVAP90458252

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Camshaft Sensor 

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Genuine Vauxhall Part: No.
Equivalent to: 90458252 (93171450)
Guarantee: 12 Month Replacement.
Condition: New
Packaging: Plain Packaging
Delivery: 1-2 Working Days "

Taken directly from your link!!
 
 
 
that is there number the part number is (yellow) siemens. and thats what has come after market dont work wrong signal.

That says Equivalent

Taken directly from the website:

Camshaft Sensor
Genuine Vauxhall Part: No.
Equivalent to: 90458252 (93171450)
Title: Re: limping miggy please help
Post by: rustym95 on 17 October 2009, 14:24:13
well it is a genuine part same as my old one, no dif in the type and same number and say siemens on it. the other number is the new part number.
Title: Re: limping miggy please help
Post by: tunnie on 17 October 2009, 14:26:12
Well what ever you have, i would not advise anyone to buy from that link wanting a geniune part, as it clearly states on the site they are NOT geniune.
Title: Re: limping miggy please help
Post by: rustym95 on 17 October 2009, 14:37:26
well thats ok cos just asked them over the phone and its a geuine part and they only have one left, they have o put on site equivalent part as the other part number is for the modified part as well, they have sold over hundreds of these and had no return's, or replacements.
Title: Re: limping miggy please help
Post by: tunnie on 17 October 2009, 14:46:09
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well thats ok cos just asked them over the phone and its a geuine part and they only have one left, they have o put on site equivalent part as the other part number is for the modified part as well, they have sold over hundreds of these and had no return's, or replacements.

Your missing the point, their website states its not geniune. If you buy one and a pattern turns up, you don't have a leg to stand on.
Title: Re: limping miggy please help
Post by: RobG on 17 October 2009, 15:30:14
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well thats ok cos just asked them over the phone and its a geuine part and they only have one left, they have o put on site equivalent part as the other part number is for the modified part as well, they have sold over hundreds of these and had no return's, or replacements.

Your missing the point, their website states its not geniune. If you buy one and a pattern turns up, you don't have a leg to stand on.
Tunnie, the words "talking to" and "brick wall" spring to mind. You`re fighting a losing battle with this one mate ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: limping miggy please help
Post by: dbug on 17 October 2009, 15:30:59
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well thats ok cos just asked them over the phone and its a geuine part and they only have one left, they have o put on site equivalent part as the other part number is for the modified part as well, they have sold over hundreds of these and had no return's, or replacements.

Your missing the point, their website states its not geniune. If you buy one and a pattern turns up, you don't have a leg to stand on.

Thats exactly the point I was trying to make Tunnie - certainly didn't get through to rustym95.

The part nº(s) quoted are GM part nºs but it specifically says not a genuine GM part but equivalent to these GM part nºs.
Title: Re: limping miggy please help
Post by: tunnie on 17 October 2009, 15:40:45
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well thats ok cos just asked them over the phone and its a geuine part and they only have one left, they have o put on site equivalent part as the other part number is for the modified part as well, they have sold over hundreds of these and had no return's, or replacements.

Your missing the point, their website states its not geniune. If you buy one and a pattern turns up, you don't have a leg to stand on.
Tunnie, the words "talking to" and "brick wall" spring to mind. You`re fighting a losing battle with this one mate ;D ;D ;D

I think so  ;D - We need this smiley in our stock (http://www.avforums.com/forums/images/smilies/suicide.gif)
Title: Re: limping miggy please help
Post by: westy on 17 October 2009, 20:43:26
ha ha ha like watching tennis.  after all that then looks like the local main robber is a bit of a tit! gave me wrong sensor, made me cut the old plug off ,solder in new modified one which i think looks more like newer 2.2 , can any one recommend a good genuine parts supplier, coming to blighty next week heading for Kent  :D
Title: Re: limping miggy please help
Post by: I_want_an_Omega on 17 October 2009, 20:53:20
Sounds like this car needs an aweful lot of work. Is it really worth spending the money??
Title: Re: limping miggy please help
Post by: tunnie on 17 October 2009, 20:58:21
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ha ha ha like watching tennis.  after all that then looks like the local main robber is a bit of a tit! gave me wrong sensor, made me cut the old plug off ,solder in new modified one which i think looks more like newer 2.2 , can any one recommend a good genuine parts supplier, coming to blighty next week heading for Kent  :D

hang on a minute here, you cut off which sensor? Crank or Cam?

This is not a good idea, remember it could be the cable thats at fault, not the actual sensor. You should have replaced the whole unit. (cable & sensor)
Title: Re: limping miggy please help
Post by: westy on 18 October 2009, 11:12:38
definitely cam sensor mate new one came with new  plug and about 9" of lead with bare wires on end  sensor looks the same as the old one but has slightly different plug hence new lead   the dealer said this was quite normal as oruigenal is no longer available from opel so as they recommended we cut off the old lead and soldered in the new one and fitted new sensor which hasn't changed a thing.                     as regards is it worth doing up yes definitely  i bought this car when it was just over a year old its a irish  20 cd omega  but is same spec as  uk elite and is in mint cond ows me nothing well worth the work especially in these times we live in
Title: Re: limping miggy please help
Post by: westy on 20 October 2009, 20:00:18
thanks for all your help chaps ,miggys cam sensor is now fixed .  after talking to a friend i decided to check the loom around the engine and found a broken wire on the cam sensor lead, where it goes into the trunking in front of the timing belt cover, the edge of this cover had wore its way through the lead so ecu was not getting a signal from said sensor what a relief !..... thanks again great site will let you know how iget on with the rest of it   all the best , westy :y