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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: computertel on 16 October 2009, 19:01:27

Title: Cambelt Change
Post by: computertel on 16 October 2009, 19:01:27
Having just become an Omega 2.6 CD V6 on an 01 plate owner with 131,000 miles on the clock. I would like to get the cam belt replaced as I have no service history saying the belt has being replaced latley.

I went to a local garage who quoted £100 labour, £28 for the belt, £90 for a cam kit (if needed) and VAT on top.

The questions I am asking are:
     Is this a fair price
     Do I need the cam kit

I am thinking maybe I should do it myself. I am very mechanically minded and on looking through the forum have all the tools accept the cam locking kit (which I have no idea of price).

Any suggestions would be helpful :exclamation

Terry
Title: Re: Cambelt Change
Post by: Bent valve on 16 October 2009, 19:04:32
Price doesnt seem unreasonable, you definitley need the Kit though, which includes the belt.
Title: Re: Cambelt Change
Post by: alank46 on 16 October 2009, 19:07:26
Hi
Yes, you need the cam kit.  Someone on here was selling a used locking kit for £49 delivered.  £100 labour sounds very reasonable.
Alan

(Should have typed quicker)


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Having just become an Omega 2.6 CD V6 on an 01 plate owner with 131,000 miles on the clock. I would like to get the cam belt replaced as I have no service history saying the belt has being replaced latley.

I went to a local garage who quoted £100 labour, £28 for the belt, £90 for a cam kit (if needed) and VAT on top.

The questions I am asking are:
     Is this a fair price
     Do I need the cam kit

I am thinking maybe I should do it myself. I am very mechanically minded and on looking through the forum have all the tools accept the cam locking kit (which I have no idea of price).

Any suggestions would be helpful :exclamation

Terry
Title: Re: Cambelt Change
Post by: Elite Pete on 16 October 2009, 19:16:24
Thats a good price.

I would consider having the water pump replaced at the same time :y
Title: Re: Cambelt Change
Post by: serek on 16 October 2009, 19:16:37
if you update your profile please, then meybe someone local will loan for you V6 locking kit :y
Title: Re: Cambelt Change
Post by: Entwood on 16 October 2009, 19:19:33
The kit is the most important part !! 

It is NOT the belts that fail .. but the bearings in the tensioners, these seize and then either go completely out of adjustment or cause the belt to fail as they are not rotating. Either way the valves and pistons then meet with, usually, terminal results.

So every 40,000 without fail .. no ifs or buts...  :)
Title: Re: Cambelt Change
Post by: serek on 16 October 2009, 19:34:47
when I bought my last 3.0 was done 65000miles  on kit and owner say is still ok for next 15K as dealler say need replace every 80K :(
Title: Re: Cambelt Change
Post by: Darth Loo-knee on 16 October 2009, 19:59:07
I am not slating your local garage at all here, but I have seen to many to mention that have been done at local garages that have not used a locking kit, even though they told the car owner they actually had >:(
Even Vauxhall themselves leave cars not timed up properly..... :(
Title: Re: Cambelt Change
Post by: tunnie on 16 October 2009, 22:34:23
your garage have quoted cheap, too cheap for my liking, they quoted for the belt AND the kit, the belt is part of the kit! The tensioners must be replaced, thats the part that fails, not the belt, they are always needed.

With those miles, i would replace the water pump too.
Title: Re: Cambelt Change
Post by: Rockhampton on 16 October 2009, 23:17:42
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The kit is the most important part !! 

It is NOT the belts that fail .. but the bearings in the tensioners, these seize and then either go completely out of adjustment or cause the belt to fail as they are not rotating. Either way the valves and pistons then meet with, usually, terminal results.

So every 40,000 without fail .. no ifs or buts...  :)
... or 4 years.... - as quoted, it's never the belts that go, always the tensioners. Def do the water pump and auxiliary belt too (make sure genuine GM)  :y
http://www.vauxhall.co.uk/vaux/static/pdf/howToGuides/VXCambeltLeaflet.pdf :y
Title: Re: Cambelt Change
Post by: computertel on 22 October 2009, 21:39:17
I thought I would update you I what I decided to do re: cambelt.

With no disrespect to the local garage, with what they said and what I have read on the forum, I don't think they were the right people for the job.

Also after looking what everyone said via replies and searching the rest of the forum I decided that it would be impractical to DIY as the cost of bits and specialist tools in comparison to an offer from a forum member, Daz ( Darth Loo-Knee). For what little I would save in comparsion to making a serious mistake was not worth it.

So Daz came to fit cambelt/water pump yesterday (Wednesday).

All I can say is he did a very professional job and trying the car today, it drove like a dream. Thanks Daz :y

Tel
Title: Re: Cambelt Change
Post by: Darth Loo-knee on 22 October 2009, 21:46:37
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I thought I would update you I what I decided to do re: cambelt.

With no disrespect to the local garage, with what they said and what I have read on the forum, I don't think they were the right people for the job.

Also after looking what everyone said via replies and searching the rest of the forum I decided that it would be impractical to DIY as the cost of bits and specialist tools in comparison to an offer from a forum member, Daz ( Darth Loo-Knee). For what little I would save in comparsion to making a serious mistake was not worth it.

So Daz came to fit cambelt/water pump yesterday (Wednesday).

All I can say is he did a very professional job and trying the car today, it drove like a dream. Thanks Daz :y

Tel

Your welcome Terry and thanks for saying so :y
A very nice car, just keep it serviced regular and it will look after you  ;)
Oh a holiday for the weekend it is next time I see ya ;D ;)
Daz
Title: Re: Cambelt Change
Post by: CaptainZok on 22 October 2009, 21:47:42
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I thought I would update you I what I decided to do re: cambelt.

With no disrespect to the local garage, with what they said and what I have read on the forum, I don't think they were the right people for the job.

Also after looking what everyone said via replies and searching the rest of the forum I decided that it would be impractical to DIY as the cost of bits and specialist tools in comparison to an offer from a forum member, Daz ( Darth Loo-Knee). For what little I would save in comparsion to making a serious mistake was not worth it.

So Daz came to fit cambelt/water pump yesterday (Wednesday).

All I can say is he did a very professional job and trying the car today, it drove like a dream. Thanks Daz :y

Tel

Your welcome Terry and thanks for saying so :y
A very nice car, just keep it serviced regular and it will look after you  ;)
Oh a holiday for the weekend it is next time I see ya ;D ;)
Daz
Bet you forgot the rock didn't you? ;D ;D
Title: Re: Cambelt Change
Post by: Darth Loo-knee on 22 October 2009, 21:49:09
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I thought I would update you I what I decided to do re: cambelt.

With no disrespect to the local garage, with what they said and what I have read on the forum, I don't think they were the right people for the job.

Also after looking what everyone said via replies and searching the rest of the forum I decided that it would be impractical to DIY as the cost of bits and specialist tools in comparison to an offer from a forum member, Daz ( Darth Loo-Knee). For what little I would save in comparsion to making a serious mistake was not worth it.

So Daz came to fit cambelt/water pump yesterday (Wednesday).

All I can say is he did a very professional job and trying the car today, it drove like a dream. Thanks Daz :y

Tel

Your welcome Terry and thanks for saying so :y
A very nice car, just keep it serviced regular and it will look after you  ;)
Oh a holiday for the weekend it is next time I see ya ;D ;)
Daz
Bet you forgot the rock didn't you? ;D ;D


Er...........in a word Yes ;D
Title: Re: Cambelt Change
Post by: tunnie on 22 October 2009, 22:01:50
Excellent choice, you can see it being done, and can sleep safe knowing its done right  :y
Title: Re: Cambelt Change
Post by: computertel on 22 October 2009, 22:19:02
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Excellent choice, you can see it being done, and can sleep safe knowing its done right  :y

Yes that's true. If I had took it to the garage, I would of dropped it off in the morning and picked it up whenever. Just trusting the job was done.

At least Daz was completly open about what he was doing
Title: Re: Cambelt Change
Post by: seosamh on 22 October 2009, 22:26:00
does the cambelt and tensioner change relate to both deisel and petrol engines
Title: Re: Cambelt Change
Post by: Elite Pete on 23 October 2009, 08:11:07
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does the cambelt and tensioner change relate to both deisel and petrol engines
On an Omega No just the petrol ones.
Title: Re: Cambelt Change
Post by: sneakypenguin on 23 October 2009, 14:41:40
dont forget to take it easy for a few hundred miles, let the belt settle in before any 'enthusiastic' driving
Title: Re: Cambelt Change
Post by: computertel on 23 October 2009, 15:54:39
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dont forget to take it easy for a few hundred miles, let the belt settle in before any 'enthusiastic' driving

Thanks for the advice but I a sedate driver at the best of times.
Title: Re: Cambelt Change
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 23 October 2009, 16:28:26
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dont forget to take it easy for a few hundred miles, let the belt settle in before any 'enthusiastic' driving

Must admit, I've never heard that advice before....
Title: Re: Cambelt Change
Post by: Jimbob on 23 October 2009, 16:57:40
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dont forget to take it easy for a few hundred miles, let the belt settle in before any 'enthusiastic' driving


if its going to let go,,, it will let go whatever the driving style  :'(
Title: Re: Cambelt Change
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 23 October 2009, 16:58:14
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dont forget to take it easy for a few hundred miles, let the belt settle in before any 'enthusiastic' driving




if its going to let go,,, it will let go whatever the driving style  :'(

It will, won't it Jimbob  ;D :y
Title: Re: Cambelt Change
Post by: Jimbob on 23 October 2009, 17:00:51
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dont forget to take it easy for a few hundred miles, let the belt settle in before any 'enthusiastic' driving




if its going to let go,,, it will let go whatever the driving style  :'(

It will, won't it Jimbob  ;D :y

yup, and can be after as little as 5 miles  :'( :'( :'(