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Title: Left or Right? Which is it?
Post by: Bionic on 26 November 2009, 14:32:11
V6 petrol 2.5 Omega Elite
OK, I now have a Haynes manual and it does give a fairly straightforward explanation of what I want to do.
That being change the exhaust manifold gasket on the passenger side of the car.
Only problem is that it says the 'Left' and 'Right' hand bank!
Question! Does the 'Left' refer to the left as you look at it from the front of the car facing the rear, what I would call the Offside or drivers side of the car?
The manual pics are not much use either.
Does anyone have an article on this subject?
Cheers
Ray
Title: Re: Left or Right? Which is it?
Post by: Neil_MV6 on 26 November 2009, 14:40:49
Your left as if you were sitting in the car.

Passenger side (nearside) = left
Drivers side (offside) = right
Title: Re: Left or Right? Which is it?
Post by: Bionic on 26 November 2009, 15:09:06
Now I am confused because the Haynes manual (section 4A.22) says under the heading of ' Right Hand Cylinder Bank' remove the oil filter.
Problem is that the oil filter is on the nearside, passenger or left side (looking from inside the car) of the engine!
Time this lot was made to a standard that everyone adheres to so it can be fully understood.
Title: Re: Left or Right? Which is it?
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 26 November 2009, 15:12:20
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Now I am confused because the Haynes manual (section 4A.22) says under the heading of ' Right Hand Cylinder Bank' remove the oil filter.
Problem is that the oil filter is on the nearside, passenger or left side (looking from inside the car) of the engine!
Time this lot was made to a standard that everyone adheres to so it can be fully understood.

When referring to the engine, right hand bank is the 2-4-6 on the near side
Title: Re: Left or Right? Which is it?
Post by: Bionic on 26 November 2009, 15:33:46
Great, thanx cos that what I had thought too just needed it confirmed. All I want now is a break in the weather so I can get started.
Cheers M8ty
Title: Re: Left or Right? Which is it?
Post by: The Red Baron on 26 November 2009, 18:00:29
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Now I am confused because the Haynes manual (section 4A.22) says under the heading of ' Right Hand Cylinder Bank' remove the oil filter.
Problem is that the oil filter is on the nearside, passenger or left side (looking from inside the car) of the engine!
Time this lot was made to a standard that everyone adheres to so it can be fully understood.

When referring to the engine, right hand bank is the 2-4-6 on the near side
yep, thats how i read it :y
Title: Re: Left or Right? Which is it?
Post by: Bionic on 27 November 2009, 03:25:53
Thanx for the help everyone.
Must say that I am not exactly looking forward to getting the 246 manifold off insit though. Anyone know an easy way?
Title: Re: Left or Right? Which is it?
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 27 November 2009, 08:03:26
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Thanx for the help everyone.
Must say that I am not exactly looking forward to getting the 246 manifold off insit though. Anyone know an easy way?

Underneath.

Front pipe off
Oil filter off
Bastard bolt off
Heat shields off
Manifold off.

Fit the studs back in the head (even if they came out with the nuts!)
Fit the gasket and then fit the manifold and other bits
Title: Re: Left or Right? Which is it?
Post by: Bionic on 27 November 2009, 08:37:11
Bastard bolt? Which one is that? Fortunately I took the advice of a previous one and bought only genuine GM parts including the metal sandwich type manifold gasket. Cost a bit but are probably worth it in the long run. This is the list;                                     Manifold Gasket; 1 x GM0024416110 £8.75
Downpipe Gasket; 1 x GM0090499289 £6.85
Manifold Stud; 10 x GM0090106924 £6.30
Manifold Nut; M8, 10 x GM0011082413 £3.40
Downpipe Nut M10, 2 x GM0090570845 £5.16
Total inc vat £35.03
Hoping to get a start as soon as the weather gets a bit better.
Skin loss estimate please?
Ray
Title: Re: Left or Right? Which is it?
Post by: feeutfo on 27 November 2009, 08:58:18
bartard bolt. Under the lifting eye by dip stick. Holds dip stick, coolent transfer pipe  to stat, and a bracket iirc. Been i while since i did that job.

Problem is you cant see the bugger. Accesss is limited, and its a torx head not a hex. No room to get a torx socket and patchet on it to remove it, and most people dont have a torx spanner so use a traditional spanner as thats all they have. Thats ok up to a certain torque, but more than that and the head rounds off if your over do it. Then you really are buggered. Plus its very difficult to get all 3 brackets lined up to allow the bolt to go in, especially as you cant really see what your doing.

When re fitting i used a small scriber or nail through the holes and brackets into the block thread to line them all up, then hold the brackets still, dont move anything, remove the nail and fire the bolt in. Simples. :-)
Title: Re: Left or Right? Which is it?
Post by: Bionic on 27 November 2009, 09:05:29
Cherrs m8tey,
Torx gear is not a problem cos I bought a set a while ago so it looks like a winner.
Thought that that was bolt in question too. Rememember the f'in thing from when I did a water leak; Lost a lot of skin then too so best get the plasters ready.
Ray
Title: Re: Left or Right? Which is it?
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 27 November 2009, 10:13:10
Move the power steering reservoir and the flexi pipe associated with it will also move giving better access to the B-bolt.

Beware of the vent pipe in the lid of the res though.
Title: Re: Left or Right? Which is it?
Post by: Bionic on 27 November 2009, 10:29:00
Nice one! The job is getting to look easier with every hint. Think I could just wish it done? NAH.. pity though!!!!!
While that B bolt is out I am going to have a look at it to see if can be modified in any way to make any future work easier, maybe by extending the head of it outwards. Perhaps welding a nut on a longer setbolt leaving just enough below the nut to match the original stud. Should have done that last time I had that Bbolt out!
Here comes the sun though so may get a start yet.
Title: Re: Left or Right? Which is it?
Post by: Andy H on 27 November 2009, 10:33:13
I think somebody recommended a 10mm ratchet ring spanner for zipping it in and out (not for torquing it up).

I wonder if I can get a set for Christmas  :)
Title: Re: Left or Right? Which is it?
Post by: Bionic on 27 November 2009, 10:54:34
Hm, Got as metric set of them anyway so may give it a whirl but still will try to extend the bolt shank for future ease.
Title: Re: Left or Right? Which is it?
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 27 November 2009, 10:58:20
With the PAS res moved, you can get a socket on it
Title: Re: Left or Right? Which is it?
Post by: robson on 27 November 2009, 15:03:36
Haynes Manual Omega 1994-1999 states ref to left and right is in sense of person in the drivers seat facing forwards page 04
Title: Re: Left or Right? Which is it?
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 27 November 2009, 15:19:47
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Haynes Manual Omega 1994-1999 states ref to left and right is in sense of person in the drivers seat facing forwards page 04

Which is correct for the vehicle.....the engine is confusing due to its application as a longitudinal and transverse power plant in different vehicles
Title: Re: Left or Right? Which is it?
Post by: Bionic on 28 November 2009, 11:23:18
Seems to be one hell of a lot of confusion on this topic.
I will just get on with the job, when it stops raining for a few days and run on the assumption that left is nearside etc.
Regards
ray
Title: Re: Left or Right? Which is it?
Post by: Andy H on 28 November 2009, 11:31:26
Half the references on here are to the
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Haynes book of lies
the other half refer to the
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Haynes joke book
I have the Haynes manual. I followed their advice and had the A/C degassed before I removed the engine. How I laughed when I discovered that it wasn't necessary >:(

Like any resource you have to use it with care. The advice on here seems to be far more reliable :y :y