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Title: question about manual convertion
Post by: gotchya1 on 20 December 2009, 18:29:52
hi all at the oof i was given a 2.0 manual omega yesterday and just wounderd if the flywheel and gearbox would fit my 2.5td

many thanx

.....G.......... :y
Title: Re: question about manual convertion
Post by: tunnie on 20 December 2009, 18:31:59
yup it would, think the 2.0 box is rated to 250 of torques?? - R25? (need someone else to confirm), so unless you go nuts with it on a track or chipping it, should be fine.
Title: Re: question about manual convertion
Post by: gotchya1 on 20 December 2009, 18:36:56
chears tunnie, no im not going nuts in it just my family bus lol

be a bit lighter on the pocket hopefully ;D ;D

thanx again......G...... :y
Title: Re: question about manual convertion
Post by: Jim on 20 December 2009, 19:37:11
What other gearboxs are compatiable on omegas, I mean is the manual gearbox on a 2.5 v6 the same or compatiable on the 3.0 and 3.2 V6
Title: Re: question about manual convertion
Post by: unlucky mark mv6 on 20 December 2009, 19:43:35
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What other gearboxs are compatiable on omegas, I mean is the manual gearbox on a 2.5 v6 the same or compatiable on the 3.0 and 3.2 V6
Different box on the 3.0/3.2 jim. ;)
Title: Re: question about manual convertion
Post by: tunnie on 20 December 2009, 19:47:42
2.0/2.2/2.5/2.6 is R25

3.0/3.2 is R28

Title: Re: question about manual convertion
Post by: Jim on 20 December 2009, 19:48:24
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What other gearboxs are compatiable on omegas, I mean is the manual gearbox on a 2.5 v6 the same or compatiable on the 3.0 and 3.2 V6
Different box on the 3.0/3.2 jim. ;)
is the 3.0 and 3.2 the same manual gearbox
Title: Re: question about manual convertion
Post by: tunnie on 20 December 2009, 19:48:53
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What other gearboxs are compatiable on omegas, I mean is the manual gearbox on a 2.5 v6 the same or compatiable on the 3.0 and 3.2 V6
Different box on the 3.0/3.2 jim. ;)
is the 3.0 and 3.2 the same manual gearbox

Yup  :y
Title: Re: question about manual convertion
Post by: Jim on 20 December 2009, 19:49:10
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2.0/2.2/2.5/2.6 is R25

3.0/3.2 is R28


Cheers Tunnie :y
Title: Re: question about manual convertion
Post by: unlucky mark mv6 on 20 December 2009, 19:49:37
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What other gearboxs are compatiable on omegas, I mean is the manual gearbox on a 2.5 v6 the same or compatiable on the 3.0 and 3.2 V6
Different box on the 3.0/3.2 jim. ;)
is the 3.0 and 3.2 the same manual gearbox
Both r28 as far as i know. :y
Title: Re: question about manual convertion
Post by: tigers_gonads on 21 December 2009, 00:13:13
i'm breaking a 2.5 td estate ( manual ) if you need any bits  :y
Title: Re: question about manual convertion
Post by: MV6Matt on 21 December 2009, 07:57:27
Since doing a few mods to the engine, I've been considering a manual conversion.
Do I need to stick with a 2.5 box or would a 3.0 make more sense? (215 bhp at last R/R)
If a 3.0 box should I find a prefacelift doner car for the clutch, Bell Housing and cylinder slave etc etc or will a 3.2 be ok?
Presumably the loom will take the conversion and I'll have to get Tech 2 to tell the car it isn't an auto any more?

Any ideas?

Matthew
Title: Re: question about manual convertion
Post by: Essex Pete on 21 December 2009, 10:53:06
Clutch and flywheel will need to come from a 2.5TD manual car.  There is no chance the 2.0 or 3.0 flywheel will fit on a BMW engine
Title: Re: question about manual convertion
Post by: tigers_gonads on 21 December 2009, 12:58:42
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Since doing a few mods to the engine, I've been considering a manual conversion.
Do I need to stick with a 2.5 box or would a 3.0 make more sense? (215 bhp at last R/R)
If a 3.0 box should I find a prefacelift doner car for the clutch, Bell Housing and cylinder slave etc etc or will a 3.2 be ok?
Presumably the loom will take the conversion and I'll have to get Tech 2 to tell the car it isn't an auto any more?

Any ideas?

Matthew


its not the bhp mate
its the torque  ;)

i think the r25 box is good for 250 pounds foot  :y
Title: Re: question about manual convertion
Post by: tunnie on 21 December 2009, 13:13:29
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Since doing a few mods to the engine, I've been considering a manual conversion.
Do I need to stick with a 2.5 box or would a 3.0 make more sense? (215 bhp at last R/R)
If a 3.0 box should I find a prefacelift doner car for the clutch, Bell Housing and cylinder slave etc etc or will a 3.2 be ok?
Presumably the loom will take the conversion and I'll have to get Tech 2 to tell the car it isn't an auto any more?

Any ideas?

Matthew


its not the bhp mate
its the torque  ;)

i think the r25 box is good for 250 pounds foot  :y

Yup, i used to say go for the R28, but as i have been corrected the R25's are fine and will last ok. Not like puting an AR25 behind a 3.0....

If your going to abuse it, and use on a track the R25 won't last long, but for everyday use it should be ok
Title: Re: question about manual convertion
Post by: Andy H on 21 December 2009, 18:39:53
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Since doing a few mods to the engine, I've been considering a manual conversion.
Do I need to stick with a 2.5 box or would a 3.0 make more sense? (215 bhp at last R/R)
If a 3.0 box should I find a prefacelift doner car for the clutch, Bell Housing and cylinder slave etc etc or will a 3.2 be ok?
Presumably the loom will take the conversion and I'll have to get Tech 2 to tell the car it isn't an auto any more?

Any ideas?

Matthew


its not the bhp mate
its the torque  ;)

i think the r25 box is good for 250 pounds foot  :y

I thought they had gone metric  :-/ shouldn't that read Nm (Newton metres) ?
Title: Re: question about manual convertion
Post by: tigers_gonads on 21 December 2009, 20:12:18
i'm middle age now ( just )

still do old stuff  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: question about manual convertion
Post by: Essex Pete on 22 December 2009, 10:12:33
The R25 is the box that is fitted to most manual 2.5TD.  Although it has a different bellhousing to fit the BMW engine.  This is also fitted with a dual mass flywheel.  The best bet is to find a 2.5td breaker and use all the parts from that
Title: Re: question about manual convertion
Post by: tigers_gonads on 22 December 2009, 10:48:17
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The R25 is the box that is fitted to most manual 2.5TD.  Although it has a different bellhousing to fit the BMW engine.  This is also fitted with a dual mass flywheel.  The best bet is to find a 2.5td breaker and use all the parts from that


as in mine  :y ;)
Title: Re: question about manual convertion
Post by: MV6Matt on 22 December 2009, 14:28:39
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Since doing a few mods to the engine, I've been considering a manual conversion.
Do I need to stick with a 2.5 box or would a 3.0 make more sense? (215 bhp at last R/R)
If a 3.0 box should I find a prefacelift doner car for the clutch, Bell Housing and cylinder slave etc etc or will a 3.2 be ok?
Presumably the loom will take the conversion and I'll have to get Tech 2 to tell the car it isn't an auto any more?

Any ideas?

Matthew


its not the bhp mate
its the torque  ;)

i think the r25 box is good for 250 pounds foot  :y

Yup, i used to say go for the R28, but as i have been corrected the R25's are fine and will last ok. Not like puting an AR25 behind a 3.0....

If your going to abuse it, and use on a track the R25 won't last long, but for everyday use it should be ok

Thanks Tunnie and Tigers - I'll stick with the R25 - it's going to be for everyday use.

Cheers and Happy Christmas!
Matthew