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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: borvass on 09 January 2010, 19:11:27
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Hello,
I'm going to buy Omega 2.5 DTI Y25DT 2002 Automatic. So i have few question about it. The answer of the first one i searched whole week around the net and i received various answers. I believe here is the place to ask :)
1. I wonder is there ESP system on this particular model? I've read an article of GM's
"Omega: New Common Rail Turbodiesel with Five-Speed Automatic
A large number of modifications will further increase the appeal of Opel's top-of-the-line Omega. The most important is the introduction of a common-rail turbodiesel rated at 110 kW/150 hp. The smooth-running 2.5 DTI, 24V, direct-injection, inline six-cylinder engine has plenty of torque (maximum 300 Nm between 1750 and 3000 rpm) and low fuel consumption ( 7.6 liters of diesel per 100 kilometers ). The Omega 2.5 DTI's top speed is 208 km/h and it accelerates from a standstill to 100 km/h in just 10.5 seconds. From November, the Omega 2.5 DTI will be available with a new five-speed automatic transmission.
All Omega six-cylinder models will have ESP as a standard feature from November. As of now, they will be distinguished by a special honeycomb grille and a larger Opel badge. Next year, a DVD entertainment system for the rear passengers will complete the long list of extras available for the Omega station wagon. The system, developed by Opel and Johnson Controls and also available for the Zafira, can play DVDs ( D igital V ersatile D iscs) and audio CDs ( C ompact D iscs) and also has connections for video games and a camcorder."
source: http://www.gm-press.com/HU/site/article.php?aid=612
Some guys told me that this model don't have ESP.
2. In connection with the first question there is a button on the dash over that one for the luggage-carrier. The symbol is something like triangle with car inside and wheel track (zig zag) when it is pressed on the panel shows the same symbol in yellow. Is that button for the ESP or it is for the TC only.
3. in general how can i recognize the presence of ESP system on the car?
4.Last one ;) i intend eventually to chip this engine. Will it be a problem the higher torque and hp (~170-180hp) for the automatic. I read here a opinion of TheBoy and he wrote that chipping automatic will be a problem for the gearbox... i wonder please help
Thank you in advance :) and sorry for the bad English.
Regards,
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Hi Borvass, and welcome. Your English is perfect :y
I cannot answer your question, as UK Vauxhalls, ESP was always an option. European Opels had different specs to our UK Vauxhalls.
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Welcome to the OOF Borvass, and that is the car I want, with RHD though :y :y :y
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10x guys :)
I thought that they have different specs too. Is that valid also about the type of automatic gearbox? And will be a problem to chip it..i mean will i eventually damage the gearbox with that?
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I would need to check, but seem to recall that 5 speed auto is rated to 400Nm.
Not sure how easy it is to 'chip' that engine - I suspect it may be a reflash/reprogram rather than a 'chip'. Some of the BMW forums may be better for info about the engine itself.
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Borvass I hate you!!!
i have been looking at this model in germany but the combi manual not auto!!
over there they chip them easilly but i dont know if its the auto they do as well,
I can find out from my german friend in a few days if you like?
and they didnt make this car in rhd!!! however for spain its perfect !! lolol :y
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Could you not convert it to RHD using a donor facelift?
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@TheBoy - i will be thankful if you can find information. I tried to google it but... :/ An, yes my mistake i mean reflash/reprogram
@Omegatoy - hmm you are right on first look i can't see even 1 in mobile.de ... here in Bulgaria we have one - strange...
I suppose the tuning will be OK i know a guy who can make it. I personally don't understand in deep the tuning/programing. It will be great if you ask your friend about the gearbox :)
It's a pleasure to communicate with you guys :y
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Can't find the specs on a quick look, but the transmission is designated 5L40-E
Hope that helps
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yeap it help - i google it and the first result - bingo - Thanks
The 5L40-E is available in either "M82" (rear-wheel drive) or "MX5" (all-wheel drive) versions. It is able to handle vehicles up to 4000 lb (1814 kg) GVWR. The final drive ratio is 3.42:1, 3.73:1, or 3.91:1. The 5L40-E is designed for 1.8–3.6 L engines with a maximum of 250 ft·lbf (340 N·m) of torque.
regarding to this site ( http://www.chiptuning-direct.dk/vauxhall/omega/vauxhall_omega_25_dti_150hp_/_110kw_cr_en.html ) that offer some kind of device (i will not use that) but lets say we achieve the same or similar result of 189HP and 378Nm i think it is better not to tune it what you say? I prefer to have healthy gearbox than the risk of broke in it :) Those +38Nm over the specified 340Nm for this box will be a problem for it right?
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Have no experience of that box, we don't get that in the UK.
Certainly the earlier 2.5TDs we have on a Ar25 (250Nm) tend to last about 120,000m. And once chipped, about 100m :o :o :o
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Have no experience of that box, we don't get that in the UK.
Certainly the earlier 2.5TDs we have on a Ar25 (250Nm) tend to last about 120,000m. And once chipped, about 100m :o :o :o
little K missing methinks .... 120,000Km then 100 m .. :)
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Have no experience of that box, we don't get that in the UK.
Certainly the earlier 2.5TDs we have on a Ar25 (250Nm) tend to last about 120,000m. And once chipped, about 100m :o :o :o
little K missing methinks .... 120,000Km then 100 m .. :)
Soz, was being lazy (and incorrect). m=miles in my above comment. Sorry
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I'll definitely miss the chipping :) 10x
And the last unclear to me thing is that "mysterious"button Is that for sure for on/off the esp? Like you said there is a difference between UK Vauxhalls and the Opel, but i suppose that the button is the same or i am wrong?
(http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/3561/omegaed.jpg)
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(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/413aiU1UPtL._SL75_.jpg)
Looks a little too like one of these for my liking ::)
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I'll definitely miss the chipping :) 10x
And the last unclear to me thing is that "mysterious"button Is that for sure for on/off the esp? Like you said there is a difference between UK Vauxhalls and the Opel, but i suppose that the button is the same or i am wrong?
(http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/3561/omegaed.jpg)
Ours has abs button there, symbol of car skidding. We don't have the diamond shape around it though
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well well, i have just got out of mercedes diesel in disgust, we have an uphill driveway and yes at the moment we have snow :( so 2 hours ago i drove the omega estate 2.5td up the driveway in 4 nches of snow, little bit of wheelspin but it got there no problem really, so have just spent an hour trying to get the merc estate up the same drive way, not a bloody chance!!! got omegaup by turning off the road onto drive at about 30mph little bit of sideways action but it gives me the momentum t get up the hill, try it in the merc about 22times and guess what? soon as it goes sideways the damned ESP puts the brake on the correct the skid, and you lose speed just whe you need it!! this thing has an electronic diff as well so it puts the brakes on to stop the wheels spinning, again just when you need the momentum the bloody thing slows you down!! left merc at bottom of driveway went and got the omega my mrs is screaming you bloody idiot you wont get it up there!! drove down the hill turned round did the same thing come off the road at same speed and sailed straight up it!!! spent twenty mins trying to turn esp off and guess what? you cant!!! grrrr esp? you can keep it!!!
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That is the ESP button, allowing you to turn it off. See here http://images.omegaowners.com/documents/UserGuides/OmegaOct2002.pdf Sheet 156 in the pdf link that I have included.
HTH
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Hi guys :)
Today i checked the car's manual and the button is for the ESP :) i am glad for that. I want to ask some other things...
1. I cannot access the computer i mean it wants a CODE for the radio and etc... on the display was the sign "SAFE"".. the seller told me that by the chassis number i will get the CODE.. is that true?
2. I was driving omega automatic before and i was able to switch the gears from P to D when the car was not ignited, but on this one the lever for the automatic was stuck i try hardly to switch down from P position but it remains... this was on not ignited car is this normal? Maybe the gearbox is different but it was odd.
Thanks in advance :)
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What radio is fitted?