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Title: my motor wont start
Post by: Davie on 14 January 2010, 17:20:28
hi all, i own a 2.0ltr "M"reg. car was running rough so my mate put it on machine . Air flow mass meter and Crank Shaft Sensor were at fault. Brand New Parts were purchased and fitted now car wont start please help.
Title: Re: my motor wont start
Post by: Jimbob on 14 January 2010, 17:33:46
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Title: Re: my motor wont start
Post by: Jimbob on 14 January 2010, 17:34:54
unfortunately youve probabaly wasted a bit of money...

the MAF error is often shown as a red herring along with the crank sensor.

Was the new one known good?  could be dead on arrival.

do the paperclip test (as per link in my signature) and post back the results.
Title: Re: my motor wont start
Post by: tunnie on 14 January 2010, 17:41:37
did you use a geniune crank sensor?
Title: Re: my motor wont start
Post by: Davie on 14 January 2010, 17:42:08
MAF was brand new from local motor factor and Crank sensor new from vauxhall dealer
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Post by: dbug on 14 January 2010, 17:57:28
Try starting it with MAF sensor diconnected.
Title: Re: my motor wont start
Post by: Davie on 14 January 2010, 18:02:49
Tried That too. The wierd thing is if i put on an old crank sensor it bangs and clanks all over the place when trying to start it as if timing is miles out BUT it eventually starts although its rough and under powered . The NEW crank sensor allows it to turn over smoothly but will not start.
Title: Re: my motor wont start
Post by: rustym95 on 14 January 2010, 18:27:03
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hi all, i own a 2.0ltr "M"reg. car was running rough so my mate put it on machine . Air flow mass meter and Crank Shaft Sensor were at fault. Brand New Parts were purchased and fitted now car wont start please help.
you need to get a mark 1 crank and cam sensor as the new type will let you turn engine but dose not give the correct signal, they are cheaper then the new type. can get both  for under £60. but have to be mark1. :y try these when there web page is working :yhttp://www.carpartsconnexion.com/vauxhall/default.asp
Title: Re: my motor wont start
Post by: Davie on 14 January 2010, 19:12:43
Is that why i dont get spark and if so has vx sold me the wrong sensor although they only list 1 for my car
Title: Re: my motor wont start
Post by: rustym95 on 14 January 2010, 21:08:03
there are two types mrk1 and mrk2 there is only a few places that you can get mrk1's from, as mine is mrk1 as well, the web address that left in post is the only place found that sell both types best to ge them changed at same time cam and crank so price is under £60. i was in same boat as you but found that there is two types they both have the same number as well but you have to explain that it is the mark 1 type and not 2, mark 2 is 1997 think. :y
Title: Re: my motor wont start
Post by: RobG on 14 January 2010, 23:07:29
Early sensor up to 14194716..........90458251
Later sensor from 14194717-31000001...........9174621 
 
90458251 £59.50 £53.56 £46.32
9174621 £35.90 £32.36 £27.93
 Prices are retail, trade and trade club + vat



 


 



 



 
Title: Re: my motor wont start
Post by: dbug on 15 January 2010, 01:37:23
These people selling early one - http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VAUXHALL-CAVALIER-2-0-X20XEV-CRANKSHAFT-CRANK-SENSOR_W0QQitemZ190246007672QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item2c4b8bb378

 ;)
Title: Re: my motor wont start
Post by: rustym95 on 15 January 2010, 10:10:05
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These people selling early one - http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VAUXHALL-CAVALIER-2-0-X20XEV-CRANKSHAFT-CRANK-SENSOR_W0QQitemZ190246007672QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item2c4b8bb378

 ;)
thats one that I tryed it dont work wrong signal. got money back
Title: Re: my motor wont start
Post by: husky jim on 16 January 2010, 12:31:05
just changed my crank sensor and that wont start now >:(
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Post by: rustym95 on 16 January 2010, 16:21:50
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just changed my crank sensor and that wont start now >:(
PM sent  :y
Title: Re: my motor wont start
Post by: Davie on 16 January 2010, 19:32:05
lads im at my wits end . New maf, Another newCrank Sensor,New Camshaft Sensor and Brand New Coil Pack and low and behold its still not starting and still no spark. My Mate put daignostic on car and it has no code faults. Where do i go from here.  On a Happier note my lad just bought a "T" reg 2ltr with 57000 from new for £400 JAMMY SOD.
Title: Re: my motor wont start
Post by: rustym95 on 16 January 2010, 20:17:27
were are you some one near mabe able to help.
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Post by: Davie on 16 January 2010, 20:53:47
I am in AYR Scotland
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Post by: rustym95 on 16 January 2010, 20:56:20
bit to far for me at this time but there is a few ppl around there they may help you.
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Post by: rustym95 on 16 January 2010, 20:57:12
have you tryed them that I PM you yesterday?
Title: Re: my motor wont start
Post by: Davie on 16 January 2010, 22:01:51
its the exact same crank sensor that i purchased from my local VX dealer
Title: Re: my motor wont start
Post by: rustym95 on 17 January 2010, 10:55:27
no its early type they look the same but it is the right one as i got them from there for mine. worked first time and have no problems at all. :y