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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: puffa on 20 January 2010, 18:01:29

Title: Suspension question
Post by: puffa on 20 January 2010, 18:01:29
I have a broken coil spring on the rear I am trying to find a supplier of springs for cars with self levelling suspension, are there any out there ?? or is it a stealers part only ?
What is the main difference between the coil springs on self level, and standard cars, other than the price !!

I have searched the site as I am sure this has been on here before but cannot find it ?

Cheers
Title: Re: Suspension question
Post by: rustym95 on 20 January 2010, 18:08:25
im sure some one said for self levelers you need to do both of them at same time, and a list were to get them from.
Title: Re: Suspension question
Post by: Andy B on 20 January 2010, 18:11:07
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im sure some one said for self levelers you need to do both of them at same time, and a list were to get them from.

you need to change both sides when you do ANY suspension work, irrespective of self leveller or not.  :y
Title: Re: Suspension question
Post by: davethediver on 20 January 2010, 18:12:04
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im sure some one said for self levelers you need to do both of them at same time, and a list were to get them from.

Suspension and braking parts should ALWAYS be replaced in pairs no ifs or buts :y


EDIT must type faster  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Suspension question
Post by: puffa on 20 January 2010, 18:12:17
yes, both sides to be changed, cannot find a supplier of springs for self level omegas though ??

Title: Re: Suspension question
Post by: rustym95 on 20 January 2010, 18:13:02
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1263663222/9#9 this post :y
Title: Re: Suspension question
Post by: Omega3 on 20 January 2010, 18:15:17
Main dealer price not that bad and at least you know the quality will be reasonable. Had rear pair fitted on my previous 2.2 at around £170 all in
Title: Re: Suspension question
Post by: feeutfo on 20 January 2010, 23:46:11
my understanding is vx retail price for springs is extortionate, and that self levelling springs are slightly softer than stock.

Also, from what i remember from a Mark DTM post, kyb (kayaba) do the full range of springs for the omega, but self levelling items are hard to find in their listings, so you may have to ring them. I beleive most motor factors have a kyb catalogue under the counter.
Title: Re: Suspension question
Post by: feeutfo on 20 January 2010, 23:54:05
also just to confirm that you will get uneven ride hight if you change one spring only. One spring will be brand new and sprightly firm and tother will be saggy old with god knows how many miles on the clock, it will sit at a differant hight and give a lop sided car. Same with shocks and wishbone bushes.

Idealy you want a matching set all round but you can get away with an axle pair.
Title: Re: Suspension question
Post by: feeutfo on 21 January 2010, 00:07:38
http://www.kyb-europe.com/catalogue.asp
Title: Re: Suspension question
Post by: feeutfo on 21 January 2010, 00:12:24
http://www.kyb-europe.comm/common-fitting-tips.html
Title: Re: Suspension question
Post by: puffa on 21 January 2010, 09:44:36
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http://www.kyb-europe.com/catalogue.asp,,Posted by: chrisgixer Posted on: Today at 00:07
http://www.kyb-europe.com/catalogue.asp 


many thanks Chris.. :y
Title: Re: Suspension question
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 21 January 2010, 09:54:22
Yes, KYB do a spring that suits the self leveling setup
Title: Re: Suspension question
Post by: Impact Pete on 21 January 2010, 10:01:22
Having read the comments when I replace my leaking rear self levelling shock, are you saying I have to replace both? I understand the reasons for this on coils and tyres but what would the reason be on shocks?
Title: Re: Suspension question
Post by: Neil_MV6 on 21 January 2010, 10:12:16
As mentioned previously in the post, one side will be worn, so will provide a different level of damping than a new one, creating imbalance.

Always do both sides.  :y
Title: Re: Suspension question
Post by: feeutfo on 21 January 2010, 10:24:25
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Having read the comments when I replace my leaking rear self levelling shock, are you saying I have to replace both? I understand the reasons for this on coils and tyres but what would the reason be on shocks?
yeah, i nearly went into all that...

same, differant ware rates, knackered old oil and damping valves in olds shocks will give differant damping to a new shock. For instance ohlins, who make very high quality suspension components, state road shocks should be serviced every two years, and competition use involves a far shorter service interval. If youl see the oil coming out of the unit, in extreme cases its like water compared to what they put in new, basickly you get a loss of damping as time and use goes on an as the damping oil degrades.
Title: Re: Suspension question
Post by: Impact Pete on 21 January 2010, 10:24:38
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As mentioned previously in the post, one side will be worn, so will provide a different level of damping than a new one, creating imbalance.

Always do both sides.  :y

Pretty obvious  :-[ should of realised that! ouch it's gonna be expensive..
Title: Re: Suspension question
Post by: feeutfo on 21 January 2010, 10:28:46
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As mentioned previously in the post, one side will be worn, so will provide a different level of damping than a new one, creating imbalance.

Always do both sides.  :y

Pretty obvious  :-[ should of realised that! ouch it's gonna be expensive..
150 for the pair with a trade club card from vx, link below if you need the card
Title: Re: Suspension question
Post by: Impact Pete on 21 January 2010, 17:13:30
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150 for the pair with a trade club card from vx, link below if you need the card

Excuse the asking, If I take out membership and get a VX trade card is this the price from a Vauxhall dealer or from the members site?
Title: Re: Suspension question
Post by: feeutfo on 21 January 2010, 17:25:37
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150 for the pair with a trade club card from vx, link below if you need the card

Excuse the asking, If I take out membership and get a VX trade card is this the price from a Vauxhall dealer or from the members site?
you pay thr vx trade club price at a dealer. Vx do their own card which is a bit more difficult to get hold of. Autobahn stormers have negotiated their own deal to access the exact same scheme, so you pay the same trade club price as vx trade club card holders do, you just have a differant card is all. Some less helpfull dealers have been known to be fussy over the abs card, if they get stropy tell them straight, the card is valid.