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Title: rattling from rear suspension/boot area
Post by: cruisetopoland on 09 January 2010, 13:31:56
I have just bought the front wishbones and will have them fitted next week, but now have a slowly worsening metallic rattle from the rear of the car.

On poorly surfaced roads, there is a rattling to match the imperfections in the road which is getting progressively worse-I assume this is rear bushes, but any ideas anyone?

I also find I can feel the gear selector shaking about a bit with the road surface if I rest my hand on it-is this related?

Replies much appreciated  :y

Title: Re: rattling from rear suspension/boot area
Post by: Proz on 09 January 2010, 13:36:05
Maybe a peice of rear spring broken of and rattling around inside the remaining spring .... as happened to mine  :y
Title: Re: rattling from rear suspension/boot area
Post by: p j morgan on 09 January 2010, 13:37:12
sounds like a broken spring ?if so you need to replace both think there is a how to in the maintainance guide hope this helps :y
Title: Re: rattling from rear suspension/boot area
Post by: cruisetopoland on 09 January 2010, 13:44:28
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sounds like a broken spring ?if so you need to replace both think there is a how to in the maintainance guide hope this helps :y

Both the wheels off yesterday for new tyres-couldn't see a problem??
Title: Re: rattling from rear suspension/boot area
Post by: Proz on 09 January 2010, 13:49:03
I didnt see mine either untill i replaced it and the little piece that had broken fell out
Title: Re: rattling from rear suspension/boot area
Post by: Neil_MV6 on 09 January 2010, 14:35:27
Could be your donut bushes, same knocking symptoms that I had.

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1250299501
Title: Re: rattling from rear suspension/boot area
Post by: cruisetopoland on 09 January 2010, 17:43:41
Thanks for responses.

Just been out in it on dry roads with new tyres and the wandering rear is very noticeable, so symptoms are:

Rattling from rear end of car in time with bumps on road
"Loose rear handling"
Some take up in rear end on turning left and right/vagueness
Road surface can be felt through the gear selector

Does this help with diagnosis?

Knowing my luck it will be about four separate things to mend....

Advice gratefully received  :y
Title: Re: rattling from rear suspension/boot area
Post by: Omegadoha, Desert Member on 09 January 2010, 17:57:01
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Thanks for responses.

Just been out in it on dry roads with new tyres and the wandering rear is very noticeable, so symptoms are:

Rattling from rear end of car in time with bumps on road
"Loose rear handling"
Some take up in rear end on turning left and right/vagueness
Road surface can be felt through the gear selector

Does this help with diagnosis?

Knowing my luck it will be about four separate things to mend....

Advice gratefully received  :y

I've had my wishbone bushes, link rods, steering idler and shock absorbers replaced. I still have wandering so am going to look at the rear suspension bushes next. Don't know could be same in your case?
Title: Re: rattling from rear suspension/boot area
Post by: cruisetopoland on 09 January 2010, 18:02:25
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Thanks for responses.

Just been out in it on dry roads with new tyres and the wandering rear is very noticeable, so symptoms are:

Rattling from rear end of car in time with bumps on road
"Loose rear handling"
Some take up in rear end on turning left and right/vagueness
Road surface can be felt through the gear selector

Does this help with diagnosis?

Knowing my luck it will be about four separate things to mend....

Advice gratefully received  :y

I've had my wishbone bushes, link rods, steering idler and shock absorbers replaced. I still have wandering so am going to look at the rear suspension bushes next. Don't know could be same in your case?

I've done both sides trackrod assemblies and the steering idler, wishbones are being done next week-parts ordered.

I can feel the rear being loose and the rattles confirm this-is it bushes, then??
Title: Re: rattling from rear suspension/boot area
Post by: Proz on 09 January 2010, 22:33:51
Never heard a bush making a metallic rattle  :-/ .... my money still on one of the little coils at the top or bottom of the spring broken off and rattling around inside the remaining spring .... be interested to find out what it turns out to be  :y :y
Title: Re: rattling from rear suspension/boot area
Post by: Omegadoha, Desert Member on 10 January 2010, 07:28:18
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Thanks for responses.

Just been out in it on dry roads with new tyres and the wandering rear is very noticeable, so symptoms are:

Rattling from rear end of car in time with bumps on road
"Loose rear handling"
Some take up in rear end on turning left and right/vagueness
Road surface can be felt through the gear selector

Does this help with diagnosis?

Knowing my luck it will be about four separate things to mend....

Advice gratefully received  :y

I've had my wishbone bushes, link rods, steering idler and shock absorbers replaced. I still have wandering so am going to look at the rear suspension bushes next. Don't know could be same in your case?

I've done both sides trackrod assemblies and the steering idler, wishbones are being done next week-parts ordered.

I can feel the rear being loose and the rattles confirm this-is it bushes, then??

No, the rear end tramlining could be related to the rear suspension bushes. I'll have to let the experts diagnose the rattle as I don't know.

Could be two separate issues.
Title: Re: rattling from rear suspension/boot area
Post by: cruisetopoland on 10 January 2010, 07:30:49
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Thanks for responses.

Just been out in it on dry roads with new tyres and the wandering rear is very noticeable, so symptoms are:

Rattling from rear end of car in time with bumps on road
"Loose rear handling"
Some take up in rear end on turning left and right/vagueness
Road surface can be felt through the gear selector

Does this help with diagnosis?

Knowing my luck it will be about four separate things to mend....

Advice gratefully received  :y

I've had my wishbone bushes, link rods, steering idler and shock absorbers replaced. I still have wandering so am going to look at the rear suspension bushes next. Don't know could be same in your case?

I've done both sides trackrod assemblies and the steering idler, wishbones are being done next week-parts ordered.

I can feel the rear being loose and the rattles confirm this-is it bushes, then??

No, the rear end tramlining could be related to the rear suspension bushes. I'll have to let the experts diagnose the rattle as I don't know.

Could be two separate issues.

Knowing my car, it will be several separate issues  >:(
Title: Re: rattling from rear suspension/boot area
Post by: Omegadoha, Desert Member on 10 January 2010, 09:19:25
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Thanks for responses.

Just been out in it on dry roads with new tyres and the wandering rear is very noticeable, so symptoms are:

Rattling from rear end of car in time with bumps on road
"Loose rear handling"
Some take up in rear end on turning left and right/vagueness
Road surface can be felt through the gear selector

Does this help with diagnosis?

Knowing my luck it will be about four separate things to mend....

Advice gratefully received  :y

I've had my wishbone bushes, link rods, steering idler and shock absorbers replaced. I still have wandering so am going to look at the rear suspension bushes next. Don't know could be same in your case?

I've done both sides trackrod assemblies and the steering idler, wishbones are being done next week-parts ordered.

I can feel the rear being loose and the rattles confirm this-is it bushes, then??

No, the rear end tramlining could be related to the rear suspension bushes. I'll have to let the experts diagnose the rattle as I don't know.

Could be two separate issues.

Knowing my car, it will be several separate issues  >:(

Join the club.  ;D
Title: Re: rattling from rear suspension/boot area
Post by: chuftsmv6 on 10 January 2010, 14:08:48
hi mine had a broken spring aswell i didnt notice it at first   :y
Title: Re: rattling from rear suspension/boot area
Post by: cruisetopoland on 22 January 2010, 16:12:18
Had the springs etc checked on the ramp by several people, car sits level and is now much more solid on the road after the wishbones and 4 wheel alignment has been done.

I have been able to replicate the rattling noise on the ramps-both handbrake cables are knocking against the rear suspension arms and if I waggle them, I get the same metallic rattle.

I wonder if this will be the first repair that will be easier to do than I first thought  :-/ ;D

welung666 is looking at it tomorrow and will sort a cure-let's hope that is the cause of the rattle  :y
Title: Re: rattling from rear suspension/boot area
Post by: feeutfo on 22 January 2010, 21:42:32
euro car parts  do the donut bushes if you needem, half the vx price, Mark dtm mentioned it in another post
Title: Re: rattling from rear suspension/boot area
Post by: cruisetopoland on 23 January 2010, 19:53:36
Been fiddling with car all day with welung666s kind help-seems like rattling is.............the rear boot-lid  ;D
 
If we adjust the adjusters on the bootlid or on the hinges we can adjust the noise......hopefully can get rid of it with a bit of playing about..... :y

Title: Re: rattling from rear suspension/boot area
Post by: Welung666 on 23 January 2010, 20:26:25
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Been fiddling with car all day with welung666s kind help-seems like rattling is.............the rear boot-lid  ;D
 
If we adjust the adjusters on the bootlid or on the hinges we can adjust the noise......hopefully can get rid of it with a bit of playing about..... :y


I'm still laughing about that now ;D ;D
Title: Re: rattling from rear suspension/boot area
Post by: feeutfo on 23 January 2010, 23:38:58
a thought, had to remove the polystirene insert between plastic bumper and metal bumper cross member on mine due to positioning the lpg fuel filler behind the number plate. This has resulted in some rattling over speed bumps, and when shutting the boot lid. Wonder if yours still has the polystirene fitted...? just a thought...
Title: Re: rattling from rear suspension/boot area
Post by: cruisetopoland on 24 January 2010, 06:56:52
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a thought, had to remove the polystirene insert between plastic bumper and metal bumper cross member on mine due to positioning the lpg fuel filler behind the number plate. This has resulted in some rattling over speed bumps, and when shutting the boot lid. Wonder if yours still has the polystirene fitted...? just a thought...

I don't think the bumper has been off, but I will take a look at that, cheers  :y
Title: Re: rattling from rear suspension/boot area
Post by: belldarr on 24 January 2010, 09:25:47
Was going to point out the obvious and say a socket/locking wheel adaptor has maybe fallen into the spare wheel well.

As for the auto gearstick rattling over uneven surface - mine does that and it's bloody annoying! it seems to be the little pull-up lever that sits on the front of the gearstick - Anyone any ideas on what is causing that rattle??

Darren
Title: Re: rattling from rear suspension/boot area
Post by: feeutfo on 24 January 2010, 13:11:12
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Was going to point out the obvious and say a socket/locking wheel adaptor has maybe fallen into the spare wheel well.

As for the auto gearstick rattling over uneven surface - mine does that and it's bloody annoying! it seems to be the little pull-up lever that sits on the front of the gearstick - Anyone any ideas on what is causing that rattle??

Darren
Being attached to the gear box/engine/drive train it will pick up engine vibes and movement, just will. The shift lever i use a bit of silicin grease or spray, not to lube it but to give enough stick to stop it rattling. My old 2.5 did it after about 120k
Title: Re: rattling from rear suspension/boot area
Post by: unlucky mark mv6 on 24 January 2010, 14:22:56
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Was going to point out the obvious and say a socket/locking wheel adaptor has maybe fallen into the spare wheel well.

As for the auto gearstick rattling over uneven surface - mine does that and it's bloody annoying! it seems to be the little pull-up lever that sits on the front of the gearstick - Anyone any ideas on what is causing that rattle??

Darren
Possibly engine or gearbox mount darren if its that bad,but mine also has a bit of movement as you can expect with any car. :y
Title: Re: rattling from rear suspension/boot area
Post by: cruisetopoland on 24 January 2010, 17:42:43
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Was going to point out the obvious and say a socket/locking wheel adaptor has maybe fallen into the spare wheel well.

As for the auto gearstick rattling over uneven surface - mine does that and it's bloody annoying! it seems to be the little pull-up lever that sits on the front of the gearstick - Anyone any ideas on what is causing that rattle??

Darren
Being attached to the gear box/engine/drive train it will pick up engine vibes and movement, just will. The shift lever i use a bit of silicin grease or spray, not to lube it but to give enough stick to stop it rattling. My old 2.5 did it after about 120k

Gear selector does not rattle in mine, but you do feel the vibes and movement of the road outside if you put hand on it while driving along...

Rattle much quieter today after bootlid fiddling; not entirely gone, but much better.

Thanks for wheel well tip-had emptied the entire boot, wheel well and car interior first to search for rattle-one was stuff in NSF door pocket, one was baby seat seatbelts, one was passenger seatbelt holster against centre console, another keyring against steering column, another was sunvisor etc etc etc.

TIme for OCD rehab  ;D ;D
Title: Re: rattling from rear suspension/boot area
Post by: belldarr on 24 January 2010, 18:57:32
I am right there with you on the OCD thing - I hate a rattle in any car so I can understand the frustration!

Which reminds me of a rattle I had in the back of mine - you have got the jack secured properly haven't you?  this is nearer the boot lid  ::)

And cheers for the silicone and gearbox mount tips - I shall mention it next time it'sin the garage :)

Darren
Title: Re: rattling from rear suspension/boot area
Post by: cruisetopoland on 24 January 2010, 19:01:38
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I am right there with you on the OCD thing - I hate a rattle in any car so I can understand the frustration!

Which reminds me of a rattle I had in the back of mine - you have got the jack secured properly haven't you?  this is nearer the boot lid  ::)

Jack and tools well tight, cheers  :y

Not my tips, but a response to my post, ta anyway!!  ;D

And cheers for the silicone and gearbox mount tips - I shall mention it next time it'sin the garage :)

Darren