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Title: Taking engine head off
Post by: Miggy24 on 20 January 2010, 16:05:24
Hi can any one tell me what size start drive bit i need to undo the head bolts to the cyclinder head.Oh yeh its for a 2.0 16v
Title: Re: Taking engine head off
Post by: RobG on 20 January 2010, 16:08:57
T50 I think Rory. Just removed head off the breaker yesterday. Pain in the f-----g arse
Title: Re: Taking engine head off
Post by: Miggy24 on 20 January 2010, 16:12:51
Thanks Rob :y.Not to bad really stripped everything down know probs in about a hour and a half.all i need to do is undo the head bolts and the head is out
Title: Re: Taking engine head off
Post by: RobG on 20 January 2010, 16:14:48
Make sure you`ve released all the connectors at back of engine and the coolant pipe :y
Title: Re: Taking engine head off
Post by: Miggy24 on 20 January 2010, 16:32:40
Yeh all done rob ;D
Title: Re: Taking engine head off
Post by: Abiton on 20 January 2010, 16:32:58
T55 on mine, 96 N reg X202xev.

I know 'cos its the missing one out of work's set...
Title: Re: Taking engine head off
Post by: Miggy24 on 20 January 2010, 17:09:22
Just tryed to undo the head bolts but they are so tight that my star drive bit twisted.Is there away to undo them
Title: Re: Taking engine head off
Post by: RobG on 20 January 2010, 17:10:52
Decent torx + torque wrench if they`re that tight. I managed mine with a 3/8 drive :)
(I did have a decent torx though) ;)
Title: Re: Taking engine head off
Post by: Gaffers on 20 January 2010, 17:11:19
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Just tryed to undo the head bolts but they are so tight that my star drive bit twisted.Is there away to undo them

T55 and you need a good one otherwise you just keep breaking them....
Title: Re: Taking engine head off
Post by: Andy H on 20 January 2010, 17:17:32
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Just tryed to undo the head bolts but they are so tight that my star drive bit twisted.Is there away to undo them

T55 and you need a good one otherwise you just keep breaking them....

Agreed.

I found that the give/spring in my 1/2" breaker bar was hurting my hands as the bolts freed in a series of jerks so I used a 1/2" to 3/4" adapter and a 3/4" breaker bar.
Title: Re: Taking engine head off
Post by: Miggy24 on 21 January 2010, 18:40:32
Head bolts are all undone now bloodly hard work i tell you lol.Just have 2 more bolts to undo and the head will be off would of had the head off 2day but got dark early 2night
Title: Re: Taking engine head off
Post by: Miggy24 on 21 January 2010, 20:32:46
Here is a quick pic to where i am with the engine now
(http://[IMG]http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z24/biffaboy21/miggy2222012.jpg)[/img]
Title: Re: Taking engine head off
Post by: Miggy24 on 24 January 2010, 13:46:46
Right well iv got the head off 2 day and the head and vavles are all good thank god but only prob there is that one of the last owners had snap 2 of the exhaust manifold bolts so now i need to get them out.So now what i wanna do is get all the vavles out and polish them up and get the head all cleaned.But Rob you was right they are a pain in the ass to get off lol :y
Title: Re: Taking engine head off
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 24 January 2010, 17:39:18
Nah there not.....not bad at all.....the cracking is micro welding of the bolts to the washers, its nothing to do with the give in the bar
Title: Re: Taking engine head off
Post by: Andy H on 24 January 2010, 19:31:33
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Nah there not.....not bad at all.....the cracking is micro welding of the bolts to the washers, its nothing to do with the give in the bar
Micro-welding sounds perfectly plausible, all I know is that with a 1/2" breaker bar each turn sounded like a creaky hinge (and was bloody painful) and when I switched to a more rigid (and heavier) T-Bar the head bolts came undone in a series of smooth movements.
Title: Re: Taking engine head off
Post by: Abiton on 24 January 2010, 19:51:45
Makes sense to me Andy.  If there's a fair bit of stored energy in a bendy breaker bar, each time the friction/stiction is overcome and the bolt rotates, there's a sudden reduction in applied force (because the bend has abruptly straightened a bit), which will tend to cause the bolt to stop turning again until you add more force at  the end of the bar to bend it again.

I had the same jerkiness with a 16*1/2" bar (Halfords), but I had nothing else so I just had to live with it.   I'm sure if there isn't any significant stored energy, as would be the case with a stiffer bar, this affect will tend to be reduced.

BTW, Miggy24: What's all the stuff that looks like rust on your pipework on the offside of your engine?  I'm struggling to see how so much of it has got where it has if it is rust.
Title: Re: Taking engine head off
Post by: Miggy24 on 24 January 2010, 20:02:27
wot that is is from when the last owner had the car the head gasket went and they put another engine in but didnt flush the coolant system out and matix so i cleaned it out and all the dirty water went every where but its been like that for a few months now will clean it soon as i get round to it