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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: richard1967 on 27 January 2010, 18:36:58
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ggggrrr!! I had a new Cambelt and runners fitted yesterday. Ive just been out in the car and driven it for 9/10 miles, and its making a real ticking noise. Its worse at lower speed than at higher speed. Im assuming that the garage who fitted the new cam belt have done something to the car. I has the cambelt fited because they said there was lots of play on the tensioners/runners. I took the car in originally because I had the light appear - the one of a car with a spanner, thinking it was a cam sensor, bit its not! Am I right that the ticking noise is connected to the new cambelt??
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Update with model of car and did the garage who did the work use a full kit and locking tools?
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2002 2.2 petrol automatic, and yes they used a full kit. Locking tools? DOnt know but have to assume yes
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I would not run it again until it's been checked. Sounds like it could be valve to piston contact. :'(
Kevin
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Can't see why it would tick :-/ something not right, what codes came up when they put it on a diagnostic?
Although may be irrelevant as you have a new proble, help will be along shortly :y
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Valve to piston contact? Youre not serious are you??? It wasnt making before the Cambelt was done?
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The codes that came up on the diagnostic, were low trottle response, service interface? and also they said that the ecu and gearbox control unit (its an auto) didnt appear to be talking to each other
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Valve to piston contact? Youre not serious are you??? It wasnt making before the Cambelt was done?
That is of course 'worse case' if timing is out it isn't beyond the relms of possibility.
Where abouts are you?
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I would take it back richard,if it aint right. :-/
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Hi Dave the Diver, Im in Swindon, Wiltshire............now youve got me really worried. Surely if there was valve to pistion contact there would have been more noise. This is a ticking noise that is worse at idle and low speed
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Hi Mark, Yes Im taking it back tomorrow morning first thing
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Valve to piston contact? Youre not serious are you??? It wasnt making before the Cambelt was done?
It's difficult to diagnose noises remotely and it could be something quite unrelated. However, if an engine starts to make unfamiliar noises immediately after a cam belt change I would always advise checking the timing straight away.
If the engine was not timed up correctly or the belt tension was not set correctly the timing could have slipped and the worst case scenario is that the pistons hit the valves.
I haven't heard this noise, so I don't know. It could be something trivial like a cover vibrating, but that's the worst case scenario, I'm afraid.
Spurious gearbox interface errors I have seen before, so if the fault wasn't marked as present I wouldn't worry about it. Throttle response errors point to a problem with the drive by wire system, so the throttle body or pedal position sensor perhaps. Would need to know the exact code reported to know for sure.
Kevin
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Was waterpump changed? Always worth changing waterpump when doing 2.2 cambelt
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Hi The Boy ( I got your message about reading the codes- thank you)
Ive just looked at the invoice, and the waterpump wasnt changed......sorry. Ive just gone out to listen to it and it sounds like a diesel, not a petrol
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If it didn't tick before, and does now, suspect what they have done.
What worries me, didn't they notice they introduced this noise (of course they did, but choose to ignore it), and I would have expected any decent garage to recomend the pump change at same time...
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I appreciate your help guys. As I said it sounds like a diesel now. Any other ideas what it could be? If it is Valve to piston contact, how much is it likely to cost?
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this (stethoscope) may help about the location when the engine is cold ;D :y
(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/IMG_1265.jpg)
and thats much better
http://www.brandsplace.com/0384-lis52500.html
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Not really going to be much help to me, Im just trying to get an idea what the worst will cost me, a stethascope wont be much use
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Not really going to be much help to me, Im just trying to get an idea what the worst will cost me, a stethascope wont be much use
problem is there can be different locations which can cause this noise.. like , say alternator, exhaust manifold gasket etc etc.. and you can use that device after also.. :-/
and hoping your problem is not cambelt..
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Thanks for the advice CEM, just a bit tetchy cos this noise wasnt there before I took it in for the Cambelt, and now Im concerned if the valves and pistons have hit, then Im looking at a bill more than the value of the car potentially I guess :(
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Thanks for the advice CEM, just a bit tetchy cos this noise wasnt there before I took it in for the Cambelt, and now Im concerned if the valves and pistons have hit, then Im looking at a bill more than the value of the car potentially I guess :(
I'm sure even if thats the case OOF member mechanics will solve/help your problem cost effectively..some members have spare parts.. but still hoping thats not the case.. :y
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Cheers CEM Ive got everything crossed :y
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Thanks for the advice CEM, just a bit tetchy cos this noise wasnt there before I took it in for the Cambelt, and now Im concerned if the valves and pistons have hit, then Im looking at a bill more than the value of the car potentially I guess :(
If their negligence has caused this problem I believe they should be picking up the bill. Maybe it's worth getting the car independantly assessed. Are you a member of the AA / RAC? Just wondering if they could give a written appraisal if it looks like the garage are at fault.
It could be nothing as serious, of course. :-/
Worst case, if valves have been bent, the head needs to come off and new valves be fitted. That must be 10-12 hours labour. :-/
Kevin
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If it wasn't "ticking" when you brought the car in then something is not right...
However, my 2.2Cd was "ticking" which was annoying, so I've just had a new set of lifters put in, and while the lads were at it they did a new cam belt kit, water pump, plugs and rocker gasket. They did a cracking job and now it runs and sounds like a new engine even though it's got 122k on the clock.
It may be a case of you need a set of lifters maybe..