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Title: Can the pollen-filter 'holder' be taken out?
Post by: nobleone on 04 February 2010, 12:07:08
Hi,

After clearing my scuttle drain because I suspected that it was the cause of water in my passenger footwell  :( , we now know that the cause of the water was not a blocked scuttle drain, it was a leaky scuttle!

Considering how little room for maneuver there is down there, can the pollen-filter holder be removed so we can tackle the rust and seal the scuttle? And if so, how?

Please help - with all this rain I feel like the little Dutchman holding his finger in the d**e, and I still have a small pond in my footwell :'(.

janet

PS I want to say that the Dutchman has his finger in the 'embankment to prevent flooding', but for some reason the word keeps coming up with stars in the middle!
Title: Re: Can the pollen-filter 'holder' be taken out?
Post by: alunonhisown on 04 February 2010, 12:10:58
Wish I was a dutchman with his finger in a DYKE!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Can the pollen-filter 'holder' be taken out?
Post by: Shackeng on 04 February 2010, 12:24:34
Are you coming out Diane?
Title: Re: Can the pollen-filter 'holder' be taken out?
Post by: alunonhisown on 04 February 2010, 12:27:07
Out Where? :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[
Title: Re: Can the pollen-filter 'holder' be taken out?
Post by: nobleone on 04 February 2010, 12:43:19
Now I know why the 'stars' :-[

If anyone has a serious response to this I'd appreciate hearing it.

janet
Title: Re: Can the pollen-filter 'holder' be taken out?
Post by: Jimbob on 04 February 2010, 12:45:55
never heard of anyone removing it.

We have several guides in the maint section on clearing out the drain, some involving a bit of electrix cable to push through the dirt.

then they tend to stay clear, esp with the odd watering can full to help flush out any rubbish.
Title: Re: Can the pollen-filter 'holder' be taken out?
Post by: Jimbob on 04 February 2010, 12:47:00
the guides...


http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1167524083

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1206287560

hope they help  :y
Title: Re: Can the pollen-filter 'holder' be taken out?
Post by: nobleone on 04 February 2010, 12:59:07
Thanks, Jimbob.

The drain is now clear and the scuttle is draining just fine, but obviously previous owners have let water build up in there and rust has led to holes in the sides of the scuttle.

I was hoping we could take out the pollen filter holder to create a bit of space in the scuttle, otherwise I suppose we could try applying sealant with one of those paintbrushes you use behind radiators.

Does anyone have any other ideas?

janet
Title: Re: Can the pollen-filter 'holder' be taken out?
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 04 February 2010, 13:02:34
Well I am sure they do come out as one of the breakers on here removed one for me once.

Would imagine its scuttle off etc plus probably glove box out to to get at the internals
Title: Re: Can the pollen-filter 'holder' be taken out?
Post by: Shackeng on 04 February 2010, 13:04:09
If the holes are only in the sides, such that it does not flood in when the drain is clear, I would be inclined to fill the holes with a bit of body filler, then paint over. :y
Title: Re: Can the pollen-filter 'holder' be taken out?
Post by: davethediver on 04 February 2010, 13:06:45
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Are you coming out Diane?

 ;D ;D ;D ;D :y
Title: Re: Can the pollen-filter 'holder' be taken out?
Post by: nobleone on 04 February 2010, 13:08:13
We'll investigate taking the holder off (thanks Marks) and body filler is another good idea (thanks Shackeng).

If we can get the thing off, it will be easy to apply the filler, otherwise it's back to 'keyhole' surgery.

janet
Title: Re: Can the pollen-filter 'holder' be taken out?
Post by: griffin on 04 February 2010, 13:09:01
Hi

Just a thought, I may be totally wrong and if I am I'm sorry!!! but if you were to remove the glove box like Marks DTM said pull back the passenger footwell carpet can you see the rust holes on the inside?  If so you could patch them up from here - no need to remove the skuttle.

 ::)
Title: Re: Can the pollen-filter 'holder' be taken out?
Post by: nobleone on 04 February 2010, 13:23:38
I've already had the carpet taken up and most of the soundproofing padding, but the man who did it for me left the padding at the front of the footwell because he was afraid he might damage the wiring loom. That might still have to be (very, very carefully) taken out as it's now soaking and I don't know if it will ever dry out otherwise.

But taking out the glovebox is another idea to think about, and I'd much rather work from inside the car than through the scuttle opening.

janet
Title: Re: Can the pollen-filter 'holder' be taken out?
Post by: tigers_gonads on 04 February 2010, 14:07:11
hi janet
update your profile so we know where you are  :y
they might be a member who's near too you  :y
Title: Re: Can the pollen-filter 'holder' be taken out?
Post by: nobleone on 04 February 2010, 14:14:28
Thanks for the suggestion, Tigers, it's done!

janet
Title: Re: Can the pollen-filter 'holder' be taken out?
Post by: Turk on 04 February 2010, 19:51:52
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Now I know why the 'stars' :-[

If anyone has a serious response to this I'd appreciate hearing it.

janet
;D  :y
Title: Re: Can the pollen-filter 'holder' be taken out?
Post by: robson on 04 February 2010, 20:22:56
Would be nice to know the solution for future reference
Title: Re: Can the pollen-filter 'holder' be taken out?
Post by: PhilRich on 04 February 2010, 21:16:01
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Would be nice to know the solution for future reference

Hi Janet & Welcome to the OOF. Please let us know how you get on, it all adds to the knowledge base for others to call on in future. :y
Title: Re: Can the pollen-filter 'holder' be taken out?
Post by: nobleone on 05 February 2010, 11:50:52
Hi,

I think we're going to try patching it from behind the glovebox and perhaps paint Thompsons Roof Seal on the inside of the scuttle.

I'll certainly let you all know how it works. I can't be the only one out there with a leaky scuttle ;D

janet
Title: Re: Can the pollen-filter 'holder' be taken out?
Post by: feeutfo on 05 February 2010, 14:04:04
having removed the glove box once to replace a servo tronic power steering relay, i think its safe to say that is the first of a thousand things that need to be removed to get to the area your talking about.

Air bag, dash and a load of other elecrical panels are in the way iirc.
Title: Re: Can the pollen-filter 'holder' be taken out?
Post by: nobleone on 05 February 2010, 15:46:44
I don't think I have a passenger airbag, but we'll be careful!

janet
Title: Re: Can the pollen-filter 'holder' be taken out?
Post by: Bent valve on 05 February 2010, 22:11:12
Dont bother with that Thompson stuff. I would try applying a polyurethane mastic using a cartridge gun, that should fit down past the pollen filter once its removed, and you can probably ease it into place if necessary with a radiator brush as you suggested. google 'rallithane' its a superb product :y