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Title: Removing throttle cable...
Post by: lou on 15 February 2010, 16:21:10
I am about to take off the throttle body for a gas flowed one, but I am unsure how to remove the throttle cable from its ball socket, the cruise appears to be a E-clip. I am sure its easy but I dont want to damage any thing.
Title: Re: Removing throttle cable...
Post by: TheBoy on 15 February 2010, 16:27:56
thottle cable, small spring clip, just rotate spring clip, then withdraw. Then unclip the cable from the ball.

Cruise is simple E clip
Title: Re: Removing throttle cable...
Post by: lou on 15 February 2010, 16:30:29
I have looked for that but can not see it, I wonder if anyone would have a pic of it..
Title: Re: Removing throttle cable...
Post by: Andy B on 15 February 2010, 16:30:51
You'll see a wire clip around the back of the ball/socket. Unlip it from the cable, rotate it 180o & it then slides out along the length of the cable - away from the ball/socket ........ not easy to explain. ::) Even when you have removed the clip, sometimes the socket can put up a fight in actually popping off the ball.
Title: Re: Removing throttle cable...
Post by: RobG on 15 February 2010, 16:33:29
Courtesy of Hotel21 http://images.omegaowners.com/images/guides/prefacelift_cruise_retrofit/cruisespringclipandcirclipTB.jpg
Title: Re: Removing throttle cable...
Post by: lou on 15 February 2010, 16:36:45
Thanks for pic..Just as I suspected the clip is missing.Does that mean the metal back bit on ball socket slides along the cable?
Title: Re: Removing throttle cable...
Post by: Andy B on 15 February 2010, 16:36:53
Doh! I'll delete my photo's then!  ;) ;D ;D
Title: Re: Removing throttle cable...
Post by: Abiton on 15 February 2010, 16:38:22
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You'll see a wire clip around the back of the ball/socket. Unlip it from the cable, rotate it 180o & it then slides out along the length of the cable - away from the ball/socket ........ not easy to explain. ::) Even when you have removed the clip, sometimes the socket can put up a fight in actually popping off the ball.

You're not kidding! I've tried and tried on ours and always failed.  (And yes, I had removed the clip  ;D)You don't want to break it, after all.
Is there a tool that could make this job easier, anyone?
Title: Re: Removing throttle cable...
Post by: RobG on 15 February 2010, 16:39:19
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Thanks for pic..Just as I suspected the clip is missing.Does that mean the metal back bit on ball socket slides along the cable?
If the clip is missing should just be able to prise the "ball" off. Might be a bit tight but it will release.
Title: Re: Removing throttle cable...
Post by: lou on 15 February 2010, 16:40:34
Its obvious that some mechanic at some point did not put the clip back and there is me looking for it....lol
Title: Re: Removing throttle cable...
Post by: Andy B on 15 February 2010, 16:41:30
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You'll see a wire clip around the back of the ball/socket. Unlip it from the cable, rotate it 180o & it then slides out along the length of the cable - away from the ball/socket ........ not easy to explain. ::) Even when you have removed the clip, sometimes the socket can put up a fight in actually popping off the ball.

You're not kidding! I've tried and tried on ours and always failed.  (And yes, I had removed the clip  ;D)You don't want to break it, after all.
Is there a tool that could make this job easier, anyone?

If you ever get your off, or look at A N Other, there's a wire clip that lives inside the socket. If it's never seen any lubrication in its life, then it rusts to the inside & won't flex as you try to get it off the ball. A little blob of grease works wonders for future removal.  :y  :y
Title: Re: Removing throttle cable...
Post by: Andy B on 15 February 2010, 16:42:28
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Its obvious that some mechanic at some point did not put the clip back and there is me looking for it....lol

Probably ended up in the engine bay at some time, they can be fiddly to put back.  :y
Title: Re: Removing throttle cable...
Post by: tunnie on 15 February 2010, 16:43:36
bloody crap design those things, another vote for DBW and its plug and play method  :D
Title: Re: Removing throttle cable...
Post by: Andy B on 15 February 2010, 16:46:44
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bloody crap design those things, another vote for DBW and its plug and play method  :D

They've been around a while. They're used as belts braces for a lot of gas struts ball & socket ends (our bonnets use another method  ::))
Title: Re: Removing throttle cable...
Post by: tunnie on 15 February 2010, 16:49:55
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bloody crap design those things, another vote for DBW and its plug and play method  :D

They've been around a while. They're used as belts braces for a lot of gas struts ball & socket ends (our bonnets use another method  ::))

Its just so fiddly, and when it does go it usually goes pinging of at about 1,000 mph
Title: Re: Removing throttle cable...
Post by: Andy B on 15 February 2010, 16:51:35
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bloody crap design those things, another vote for DBW and its plug and play method  :D

They've been around a while. They're used as belts braces for a lot of gas struts ball & socket ends (our bonnets use another method  ::))

Its just so fiddly, and when it does go it usually goes pinging of at about 1,000 mph

yep! :y Which is why lou is missing his!! ;D
Title: Re: Removing throttle cable...
Post by: lou on 15 February 2010, 19:41:37
Sorry I have been away for a while... now that I have established the clip is missing is it just a case of brut force to get the bloody thing off...but what with? Any suggestions?
Title: Re: Removing throttle cable...
Post by: Andy B on 15 February 2010, 19:48:12
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is it just a case of brut force to get the bloody thing off...but what with? Any suggestions?

Yes!  :-? A flat bladed screw driver against the black pastic cruise 'bit' .....
Try soaking it in a bit of Easit/Plusgas   :y
Title: Re: Removing throttle cable...
Post by: lou on 15 February 2010, 20:07:59
Thanks..will have a go
Title: Re: Removing throttle cable...
Post by: eddie on 15 February 2010, 22:41:51
watch you dont break the plastic cruise connector like what I did!
Unable to replace same 'cause I still cant get the bloody throttle connector of. :-/

Wondering if a bit of gentle heat will expand it enough to come of?

eddie
Title: Re: Removing throttle cable...
Post by: Andy B on 15 February 2010, 22:57:59
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watch you dont break the plastic cruise connector like what I did! ......

I did think about that posiblity as I posted my answer.  :(
Title: Re: Removing throttle cable...
Post by: lou on 16 February 2010, 00:17:27
Basically there is no easy way then..all a little bit touch and go so to speak...why dont they make things easy, life is already hard enough without having to worry trying to undo a throttle cable.
Title: Re: Removing throttle cable...
Post by: Andy B on 16 February 2010, 00:19:08
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Basically there is no easy way then..all a little bit touch and go so to speak...why dont they make things easy, life is already hard enough without having to worry trying to undo a throttle cable.

Give it a squirt of Plusgas before you go to bed!  ;)   ;)  :y  :y
Title: Re: Removing throttle cable...
Post by: feeutfo on 16 February 2010, 01:00:29
its been a good couple of years since i sold my 2.5 so my memory is hazy, but dont you have to pull wire clip out fully to get the ball off? ie unclip, spin it round, then remove by pushing the clip away from you to the back of the car. if the clip is still in the ball it still wont come off as the clip shaft locks it in...no? or have i read this too quick again?
Title: Re: Removing throttle cable...
Post by: Andy B on 16 February 2010, 01:08:40
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its been a good couple of years since i sold my 2.5 so my memory is hazy, but dont you have to pull wire clip out fully to get the ball off? ie unclip, spin it round, then remove by pushing the clip away from you to the back of the car. if the clip is still in the ball it still wont come off as the clip shaft locks it in...no? or have i read this too quick again?

Yes!  ;D
the clip around the back of the ball was missing in the first place. But the socket still doesn't want to come off the ball. I suggested a bit of easit/Plusgas because I've had it where the wire clip INSIDE the socket is siezed & won't let go of the ball.  :y  :y  :y


I suppose a bit of copper slip could help once it's been removed!  ::)  ::)  ::)
Title: Re: Removing throttle cable...
Post by: feeutfo on 16 February 2010, 02:27:11
oh yes but others have mentioned it still wont come off??? and wonder if the circular part of the clip has broken off leaving the straight bit in the hole in the ball...? maybe? just a thought.

Also wondering, did vx do a copper slip coloured Omega?...special order for Mr Bee of Bury. ;D ;D ;D :P
Title: Re: Removing throttle cable...
Post by: Andy B on 16 February 2010, 08:34:15
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Also wondering, did vx do a copper slip coloured Omega?...special order for Mr Bee of Bury. ;D ;D ;D :P

Ford did the MkIII Cortina in Roman Bronze (both light & dark) ..... that was similar!  ;D  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Removing throttle cable...
Post by: Andy H on 16 February 2010, 09:18:44
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oh yes but others have mentioned it still wont come off??? and wonder if the circular part of the clip has broken off leaving the straight bit in the hole in the ball...? maybe? just a thought.
I would try poking a pin or paperclip through the hole that the retaining clip lives in to see if it is still there.

If it is still there it will probably be banana shaped after your attempts to remove the cable.
Title: Re: Removing throttle cable...
Post by: ians on 16 February 2010, 10:16:17
I always understood that there was a spring seized clip inside the ball - separate to the pin that is removed/missing.

Then again ,both times I have tried to remove a throttle cable I failed.  I now leave the TB on the car when I'm removing the plenum.