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Title: tyre life expectancy
Post by: shell on 16 February 2010, 21:56:54
how many miles can i expect to get from a budget tyre? and how much better from a branded one?
Title: Re: tyre life expectancy
Post by: tigers_gonads on 16 February 2010, 22:08:10
all depends on how hard you drive it  :-/
i tend to find out which one is the budget tyre then go for the one above  :y
Title: Re: tyre life expectancy
Post by: al brown on 16 February 2010, 22:09:04
You will find it is probably the other way round. Better tyres grip better and hence wear faster, but you do need a decent tyre on a car this big.

Al
Title: Re: tyre life expectancy
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 16 February 2010, 22:12:49
personally I wont recommend budget tires, especially the chinese made..they perform very bad on wet braking tests ..

but if you will prefer them at least go for Kumho KU31 or Toyo..

life times really depends on your daily trip road types

and your style.. so a definite answer not easy..


and GoodYear excellence and Birdgestone Turanza may have fairly longer life but not as good as the expensive models like Eagle F1, SPort contact 3 (conti), Potenza


Title: Re: tyre life expectancy
Post by: shell on 16 February 2010, 22:16:38
well i had federals 25 000 miles ago, and it apears they will need replaced now..i was quoted £102 for each branded one, and £55 for budget... dont drive hard at all.. does it make a difference to get good ones at the back?
Title: Re: tyre life expectancy
Post by: Entwood on 16 February 2010, 22:17:55
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personally I wont recommend budget tires, especially the chinese made..they perform very bad on wet braking tests ..

but if you will prefer them at least go for Kumho KU31 or Toyo..

life times really depends on your daily trip road types

and your style.. so a definite answer not easy..







Totally agree with Cem here ...  the only thing that keeps you on the road are 4 very small patches of rubber...

Many things try and take you off the road, centripetal forces, acceleration forces, braking forces, road layout, road surface, weather, your right foot, your hands on the steering ...

all of which are fighting those 4 little patches ... IMHO you want those little patches to be good little patches, all day every day ...  :)
Title: Re: tyre life expectancy
Post by: al brown on 16 February 2010, 22:19:15
Personally I keep all 4 the same, didnt buy expensive ones this time (accelerra alpha) but they are just about as good as the P7s I had last time and are half the price.
Title: Re: tyre life expectancy
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 16 February 2010, 22:19:51
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personally I wont recommend budget tires, especially the chinese made..they perform very bad on wet braking tests ..

but if you will prefer them at least go for Kumho KU31 or Toyo..

life times really depends on your daily trip road types

and your style.. so a definite answer not easy..







Totally agree with Cem here ...  the only thing that keeps you on the road are 4 very small patches of rubber...

Many things try and take you off the road, centripetal forces, acceleration forces, braking forces, road layout, road surface, weather, your right foot, your hands on the steering ...

all of which are fighting those 4 little patches ... IMHO you want those little patches to be good little patches, all day every day ...  :)

 :y
Title: Re: tyre life expectancy
Post by: Lazydocker on 16 February 2010, 22:25:52
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Personally I keep all 4 the same, didnt buy expensive ones this time (accelerra alpha) but they are just about as good as the P7s I had last time and are half the price.

I've been running the Accelera Alpha's for nearly 2 years now and find them pretty good... Yes, they will let go but need to be driven pretty hard IME ::) ::) Although, when deliberately provoked they (like any other tyre) will react how expected.

I would have no concerns about fitting them again, although they are a little noisy
Title: Re: tyre life expectancy
Post by: al brown on 16 February 2010, 22:30:44
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Personally I keep all 4 the same, didnt buy expensive ones this time (accelerra alpha) but they are just about as good as the P7s I had last time and are half the price.

I've been running the Accelera Alpha's for nearly 2 years now and find them pretty good... Yes, they will let go but need to be driven pretty hard IME ::) ::) Although, when deliberately provoked they (like any other tyre) will react how expected.

I would have no concerns about fitting them again, although they are a little noisy

Agreed all round, when they do let go it is very predictable and very easy to handle, no sudden surprise.
They are brilliant fun in the snow, my back end went about 5 times further than the front, all very controlled. Braking was good too, which was a suprise in the snow on a "cheap" tyre.
Title: Re: tyre life expectancy
Post by: Arrolman on 16 February 2010, 22:31:40
What make of tyre did the police run them on? presume that they were of a decent make aand were quite grippy?

Cheers,
Iain
Title: Re: tyre life expectancy
Post by: shell on 16 February 2010, 22:48:54
thanks all...is 25 k a good mileage from a branded tyre? if i could repeat this then i would feel ok about renewing expensive tyres.
Title: Re: tyre life expectancy
Post by: hotel21 on 16 February 2010, 22:53:21
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What make of tyre did the police run them on? presume that they were of a decent make aand were quite grippy?

Cheers,
Iain
Goodyear.
£25 per corner, irrespective of tyre size, last I heard, but that was a couple of years ago now, pricewise......
Title: Re: tyre life expectancy
Post by: tunnie on 16 February 2010, 22:55:14
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how many miles can i expect to get from a budget tyre? and how much better from a branded one?

Impossible to answer, you going to get so many various. V6/4pot, type of miles, length of runs, driving styles, tyre pressures, type road surface, wishbones, camber & toe settings.....

You will get figures of 3k to 50k, on all types of tyres
Title: Re: tyre life expectancy
Post by: Lazydocker on 16 February 2010, 23:00:40
I've had 7 tyres in 40k... First 4 were badly worn on the inner edges due to suspension geometry (rotated front to back)... 1 Was Punctured (and had been worn due to geometry, 2 (recent ones) were worn on the inner edges but have had a badly worn Idler :y :y

I reckon that I've had 15k out of them (on average) even with bad geometry for a period of time and lots of "playing" ::) ::)
Title: Re: tyre life expectancy
Post by: feeutfo on 16 February 2010, 23:10:19
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What make of tyre did the police run them on? presume that they were of a decent make aand were quite grippy?

Cheers,
Iain
Goodyear.
£25 per corner, irrespective of tyre size, last I heard, but that was a couple of years ago now, pricewise......
£125 surely?
Title: Re: tyre life expectancy
Post by: hotel21 on 16 February 2010, 23:13:46
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What make of tyre did the police run them on? presume that they were of a decent make aand were quite grippy?

Cheers,
Iain
Goodyear.
£25 per corner, irrespective of tyre size, last I heard, but that was a couple of years ago now, pricewise......
£125 surely?
nope..... twenty five of your finest British pounds...
Title: Re: tyre life expectancy
Post by: feeutfo on 16 February 2010, 23:43:51
well lets see, in my experience and from talking to long standing members in here.

falken 912 crap tyre avoid, 15k
Dunlop sport maxx 2, 20k i think he said. good tyre noisy
Dunlop Sp 9000 12k iirc tad cheaper, noisy
above are driven hard esp the Dunlop owners.

Michelin primacy 30k hard compound not much grip compared to above but still far better than falken,driven steady,very expensive.

Conti sc3 currently fitted excelent grip wet or dry quiet stable, no complaints except price is a bit steep, suspect they wont last long, will be happy to get 15k out of them, does anyone else have experience of sc3 life? just as a guide...?

Title: Re: tyre life expectancy
Post by: feeutfo on 16 February 2010, 23:50:32
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What make of tyre did the police run them on? presume that they were of a decent make aand were quite grippy?

Cheers,
Iain
Goodyear.
£25 per corner, irrespective of tyre size, last I heard, but that was a couple of years ago now, pricewise......
£125 surely?
nope..... twenty five of your finest British pounds...

and "only" a couple years ago....? cost price to plod or something?
Title: Re: tyre life expectancy
Post by: Kevin Wood on 16 February 2010, 23:51:06
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above are driven hard esp the Dunlop owners.


 :o  :-[  ::)

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does anyone else have experience of sc3 life? just as a guide...?

My rears are wearing nicely. Mind you, they must have a good few k on them by now.

Kevin
Title: Re: tyre life expectancy
Post by: tunnie on 16 February 2010, 23:51:50
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well lets see, in my experience and from talking to long standing members in here.

falken 912 crap tyre avoid, 15k
Dunlop sport maxx 2, 20k i think he said. good tyre noisy
Dunlop Sp 9000 12k iirc tad cheaper, noisy
above are driven hard esp the Dunlop owners.

Michelin primacy 30k hard compound not much grip compared to above but still far better than falken,driven steady,very expensive.

Conti sc3 currently fitted excelent grip wet or dry quiet stable, no complaints except price is a bit steep, suspect they wont last long, will be happy to get 15k out of them, does anyone else have experience of sc3 life? just as a guide...?


17's maybe but happy here with our 16's, got them on 2 of ours. Got 16k our of the Falkens on the front, still got bags of tread left. Rears done 6k, still look brand new
Title: Re: tyre life expectancy
Post by: feeutfo on 16 February 2010, 23:58:03
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well lets see, in my experience and from talking to long standing members in here.

falken 912 crap tyre avoid, 15k
Dunlop sport maxx 2, 20k i think he said. good tyre noisy
Dunlop Sp 9000 12k iirc tad cheaper, noisy
above are driven hard esp the Dunlop owners.

Michelin primacy 30k hard compound not much grip compared to above but still far better than falken,driven steady,very expensive.

Conti sc3 currently fitted excelent grip wet or dry quiet stable, no complaints except price is a bit steep, suspect they wont last long, will be happy to get 15k out of them, does anyone else have experience of sc3 life? just as a guide...?


17's maybe but happy here with our 16's, got them on 2 of ours. Got 16k our of the Falkens on the front, still got bags of tread left. Rears done 6k, still look brand new
...driven by the Daisy family? :-/ ;D ;)
Title: Re: tyre life expectancy
Post by: ians on 17 February 2010, 12:51:43
I think 25k is reasonable, but of course depends on many factors.

The Nexens that the previous owner put on my facelift estate are doing well 22k and decent amount of tread left.

Previously I got 25-30k out of a set of Khumos, and had good experience with Falkens (I think512).  Both handled fine.

My mini f/l elite is not doing so well. It has Barum's currently at 17k, will need changing soon.  Handling is ok.

Next set will either be Khumho KU31 (if I can spell it..) or Falken 452.   I don't see the point spending more.
Title: Re: tyre life expectancy
Post by: tunnie on 17 February 2010, 13:13:18
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well lets see, in my experience and from talking to long standing members in here.

falken 912 crap tyre avoid, 15k
Dunlop sport maxx 2, 20k i think he said. good tyre noisy
Dunlop Sp 9000 12k iirc tad cheaper, noisy
above are driven hard esp the Dunlop owners.

Michelin primacy 30k hard compound not much grip compared to above but still far better than falken,driven steady,very expensive.

Conti sc3 currently fitted excelent grip wet or dry quiet stable, no complaints except price is a bit steep, suspect they wont last long, will be happy to get 15k out of them, does anyone else have experience of sc3 life? just as a guide...?


17's maybe but happy here with our 16's, got them on 2 of ours. Got 16k our of the Falkens on the front, still got bags of tread left. Rears done 6k, still look brand new
...driven by the Daisy family? :-/ ;D ;)

Spend most of my time on the M40, but even in the twisties still find it good. Not at the limit, but 80ish down the lanes and its fine. Chuck it around round-abouts in wet or dry, grips well. But then again 4 pot engine is not that heavy, plus i am on standard suspension, not MV6  :-/
Title: Re: tyre life expectancy
Post by: iggy21uk on 17 February 2010, 15:31:57
No problem with two Falken tyres I have.
Title: Re: tyre life expectancy
Post by: robson on 17 February 2010, 17:46:53
On Conti contact 2 have got about 15,000