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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: Radar on 13 March 2010, 17:56:38
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As title says, i have come back from wim and tony says i need two new front bushes. He said it is just the bushes that need replacing and he recalls there being a bmw compatible vertical front bush available?
Can anyone recommend where to source the front bushes and also somone to fit them?
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trouble with pressing bushes,
needs at least a 10 ton press,
the correct drifts to fit the bushes to press onto.
if the press slips and damages the new oil filled(?) bush while pressing your own wishbones your buggered.
Usual approach is to fit new wishbones keep your old ones and get them pressed later as spairs. Or source a second hand set with good steering knuckles and pre press new bushes into them, then fit those once successfuly pressed.
Obviously you want to avoid removing your wishbones, only to find you cant press them or the new bush gets damaged or whatever problem arrises, and you've got no good wishbones to refit, the cars still up on stands and your buggered.
Plus Markdtm busted the magic press at Newentbeforelast so that options out afaik.
Personally i cant believe the prices of a press for what they are, its just a bottle jack and some suitably arranged girders.
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Thanks Chris :y, it sounds more complicated than i thought.
I was hoping to keep costs to minimum but if i was to buy the front wishbones (with bushes already in) do you know where to get a good quality set and who could fit them for me?
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Lemforder wishbones around £110 for a pair from autovaux. Took me about 4 hours to change them, but I had never done the job before and I did have a few problems with bolts that were seized ... :(
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word from the wise.
if you plan to keep the car for a few years when you replace the wishbones before you put the bolts back slap loads of copper slip on the bolts. :y
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..... before you put the bolts back slap loads of copper slip on the bolts. :y
[size=16]CHRIS!!!!![/size] ::) ::) ::) ;) ;D
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buy it in bulk ;D
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..... before you put the bolts back slap loads of copper slip on the bolts. :y
[size=16]CHRIS!!!!![/size] ::) ::) ::) ;) ;D
if you like... ;D
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Thanks for the advice and I have just read Bumbazor ordered Lemforders for 62 each.
I am not confident to fit these - can anyone recommend who could fit them for me?
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Since a geometry check/setup is needed after changing the wishbones, I booked it into WIM. They changed both wishbones then put it straight up onto Tony,s ramp for him to work his magic. I don't recall the cost now but it didn't break the bank. 8-)
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I used poly bushes on mine PM Turk for details
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Since a geometry check/setup is needed after changing the wishbones, I booked it into WIM. They changed both wishbones then put it straight up onto Tony,s ramp for him to work his magic. I don't recall the cost now but it didn't break the bank. 8-)
Thanks, I will ask him for a quote
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I used poly bushes on mine PM Turk for details
Thanks, did you have any problems fitting them?
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if you can before you tighten up the bolts get the car on its wheels (ride height,all the weight on them) then do the bolts up, then get the tracking done, there are lots of places that dont like doing omegas as the track control arms seize up and are a pig to undo,it seems to pay if you can loosen them before you go for the tracking. :)
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Please could you tell me how you know the wishbones were manufactured by ' Lemforder' ::)
regards
richard a
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Tracking is useless after a wishbone change ... it is the CAMBER that needs resetting, and if not done properly you'll wreck a set of tires in a few thousand miles.
WIM for certain :y :y :y :y :y
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Please could you tell me how you know the wishbones were manufactured by ' Lemforder' ::)
regards
richard a
Autovaux said they were .. and AFAIR it said so on the packaging.. might even have it on the wishbones but I can't remember...
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I have just posted on a separate thread asking bumbazor if he received his lemforder wishbones and whether they were stamped
see http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1268396125/10#10
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can look up lemforder parts fot the omega here. Items are pictured, doesnt help visual id though.
http://webcat.zf-trading.com/index.asp?SPR=4
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Tracking is useless after a wishbone change ... it is the CAMBER that needs resetting, and if not done properly you'll wreck a set of tires in a few thousand miles.
WIM for certain :y :y :y :y :y
After we changed my wishbones on the Estate, Kevin W and myself set up the camber, using a spirit level at a sensible guestimate....... ::)
.... and before anyone criticises....
... It then went to WIM for a checkup - to which the camber was spot on ;D ;D
All that was adjusted at WIM, was the tracking (toe).
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Tracking is useless after a wishbone change ... it is the CAMBER that needs resetting, and if not done properly you'll wreck a set of tires in a few thousand miles.
WIM for certain :y :y :y :y :y
After we changed my wishbones on the Estate, Kevin W and myself set up the camber, using a spirit level at a sensible guestimate....... ::)
.... and before anyone criticises....
... It then went to WIM for a checkup - to which the camber was spot on ;D ;D
All that was adjusted at WIM, was the tracking (toe).
there are a couple of ways to measure or replicate the camber setting, but are we that certain of thier accuracy that we dont need to to check and confirm the correct setting?
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Tracking is useless after a wishbone change ... it is the CAMBER that needs resetting, and if not done properly you'll wreck a set of tires in a few thousand miles.
WIM for certain :y :y :y :y :y
After we changed my wishbones on the Estate, Kevin W and myself set up the camber, using a spirit level at a sensible guestimate....... ::)
.... and before anyone criticises....
... It then went to WIM for a checkup - to which the camber was spot on ;D ;D
All that was adjusted at WIM, was the tracking (toe).
there are a couple of ways to measure or replicate the camber setting, but are we that certain of thier accuracy that we dont need to to check and confirm the correct setting?
I would recommend a check every time, obviously - it was just somewhat amusing we got it spot on :y
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Tracking is useless after a wishbone change ... it is the CAMBER that needs resetting, and if not done properly you'll wreck a set of tires in a few thousand miles.
WIM for certain :y :y :y :y :y
After we changed my wishbones on the Estate, Kevin W and myself set up the camber, using a spirit level at a sensible guestimate....... ::)
.... and before anyone criticises....
... It then went to WIM for a checkup - to which the camber was spot on ;D ;D
All that was adjusted at WIM, was the tracking (toe).
there are a couple of ways to measure or replicate the camber setting, but are we that certain of thier accuracy that we dont need to to check and confirm the correct setting?
I would recommend a check every time, obviously - it was just somewhat amusing we got it spot on :y
Yes, is possible to get camber bang on with spirit level. But thrust angle is the first thing to get right, then base the other settings around that setting. What about kingpin inc? Its simply not possible to get the car right without specialist equip, and a tech who understands it, hence WIM always do mine.
You was lucky :y - bit like doing a v6 cambelt without locking kit ;)
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I used poly bushes on mine PM Turk for details
Thanks, did you have any problems fitting them?
Sawed out the old ones, push fitted the new ones
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I used poly bushes on mine PM Turk for details
Thanks, did you have any problems fitting them?
Sawed out the old ones, push fitted the new ones
can you clarify the push fit Martin? would imply the bush is not fixed in the wishbone, i'm having trouble seeing how that wont ware excessively. ;)
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I used poly bushes on mine PM Turk for details
Thanks, did you have any problems fitting them?
Sawed out the old ones, push fitted the new ones
That sounds like a bit of a mission and you must have had a spare set of wishbones?