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Title: Another exhaust question
Post by: Andy H on 13 March 2010, 21:04:50
One way or another I need a new cat back exhaust for my 2.6 V6.

When i replaced the exhaust on my prevous 2.5 V6 I fitted a genuine VX exhaust and was very pleased with it (despite paying list price because I didn't have a trade card then >:()

Has anyone bought a genuine VX exhaust recently? Does the reported drop in quality apply to all VX models or only those that are no longer in production???

Has anyone managed to buy an exhaust from eternalcar for a 2.6/3.2? because I can't find it on their website.

It looks to me as if the 2.6 exhaust is totally different to the 2.5 because the 2.6 has pre-cats and a deeper bumper :-/
Title: Re: Another exhaust question
Post by: joshwyatt on 13 March 2010, 21:12:16
Don't bother with VX anymore, they don't produce the original systems, just crap single walled one's now. But they're still the same price as the double walled one's, so it's not worth it at all. Eternalcar is the way to go, they don't officially do one's for the 2.6 or 3.2, only 2.5 and 3.0, but they do fit the later 2.6/3.2 vehicles. However, the only issue is that the tail pipes are shorter, either you can live with this, or if you wanted, add chrome tail pipes.
Title: Re: Another exhaust question
Post by: tunnie on 13 March 2010, 21:57:02
^^ as above really, GM quality went down the toilet few years ago, no longer doubled walled, no better than cheapo pattern.

You might want to put an exhaust trim on it though as Josh mentioned they are a tad short.

Also go else ware for fitting kits, as the ones they supply are rubbish
Title: Re: Another exhaust question
Post by: biggriffin on 13 March 2010, 22:06:19
by a fitting kit i guess you mean clamps and hangers?  any decent motor factor will have the kits. Hangers should be ok unless they are split.
Title: Re: Another exhaust question
Post by: webby23 on 13 March 2010, 22:11:07
Mate

Just done mine full cat back system, upgraded to a 3.2 exhaust for the twin pipes.....!

Got it off of Ebay, user was "neucarparts"

Lovely and quiet

Mark DTM fitted it and was so impressed he said he would have one off of them too

£144 fully inclusive delivered and complete with fitting mounts and brackets, plus a tube of Bosal exhaust gum

 :y
Title: Re: Another exhaust question
Post by: tunnie on 13 March 2010, 22:11:47
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by a fitting kit i guess you mean clamps and hangers?  any decent motor factor will have the kits. Hangers should be ok unless they are split.

Yeah the clamps are cheap, and they did not provide enough bolts for TB's V6!  :o Re-use the old hangers....
Title: Re: Another exhaust question
Post by: webby23 on 13 March 2010, 22:12:16
Plus 2 54mm chrome trims for £12 total to finish it off, looks lovely now.

 :y
Title: Re: Another exhaust question
Post by: Andy H on 13 March 2010, 22:25:02
OK. I understand that the quality is not as good as it used to be but is it any worse than a 'good' pattern system? and can I have it for Wednesday?

These are the trade club prices for a genuine system. I think I may end up buying from VX because I need it now & I haven't got the time to research buying from the Internet.

Omega        Part Number        Retail Price        Normal Trade        Trade Club
Exhaust silencer and centre pipes
2.5/2.6/3.0/3.2 saloon RH                                     93181162       £127.00       £108.02       £81.41
 
2.5/2.6/3.0/3.2 saloon LH                                     93181157       £124.00       £105.54       £79.24
 
Exhaust silencer and tail pipes
2.5/2.6 saloon from '00                                      93192225       £98.50       £88.66       £64.87
 
Title: Re: Another exhaust question
Post by: tunnie on 13 March 2010, 22:27:59
certainly not worse than a decent pattern, not heard any complaints on Eternal delivery, but then again don't know how long it took.  :-/
Title: Re: Another exhaust question
Post by: biggriffin on 13 March 2010, 22:30:33
i allways drill the flanges out and fit m8 nuts n bolts or for the old dufferys 5/16 ;D
Title: Re: Another exhaust question
Post by: alank46 on 14 March 2010, 08:44:04
Hi
I doubt that your local Vx dealer will have it in stock, it would be best to check that they can get delivery by Wednesday.  Why not try your local exhaust specialists if time is of the essence.  Personally I'd wait the small extra time and purchase from Eternal or Neuparts and save close on £100, but each to their own.
Alan

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OK. I understand that the quality is not as good as it used to be but is it any worse than a 'good' pattern system? and can I have it for Wednesday?

These are the trade club prices for a genuine system. I think I may end up buying from VX because I need it now & I haven't got the time to research buying from the Internet.

Omega        Part Number        Retail Price        Normal Trade        Trade Club
Exhaust silencer and centre pipes
2.5/2.6/3.0/3.2 saloon RH                                     93181162       £127.00       £108.02       £81.41
 
2.5/2.6/3.0/3.2 saloon LH                                     93181157       £124.00       £105.54       £79.24
 
Exhaust silencer and tail pipes
2.5/2.6 saloon from '00                                      93192225       £98.50       £88.66       £64.87
 
Title: Re: Another exhaust question
Post by: Grrrrrr on 14 March 2010, 21:31:53
Any cheap stainless steel systems out there? Don't really need them at the moment but seem to remember exhausts can be costly!
Title: Re: Another exhaust question
Post by: Andy H on 14 March 2010, 22:00:41
I fitted a stainless steel system to a series 3 Land Rover I had years ago. It lasted about 4 years and rusted through at the welds.

I also had a stainless system on my Range Rover but I took it off because it sounded tinny.
Title: Re: Another exhaust question
Post by: Andy H on 20 March 2010, 09:41:15
Despite advice on here I have just bought a genuine GM exhaust system (left & right silencers and a tailpipe). Arrived at dealers 48 hours after I ordered it.

The quality looks very similar to the last GM system I bought many years ago except that the back box doesn't have any clamps attached to it.

Going to fit it this morning, wish me luck, being Cornwall the rain is persisting down :(

PS does anyone need any photos for the maintenace guides while I'm under the beast?
Title: Re: Another exhaust question
Post by: feeutfo on 20 March 2010, 10:44:48
well if you have the original clam shell design on the car might be usefull to add a comparison shot of old and new side by side to any new or existing guide ? although i did post some pics on here a while ago.

i have the latest style gm exhaust and was most "unpleased" when it arived and even less pleased when comparing it to the old one that came (fell) off.

But i needed the car so on it went.

i think its probably better quality than the eternal, but personally i would rather have saved the £160 differance on the tc price.

Best of luck drilling the bolts, i found the bolt will come undone before its fully drilled, doesnt need to go all the way through. hth
Title: Re: Another exhaust question
Post by: Andy H on 20 March 2010, 19:46:44
Hardly stopped raining all day :( I need either a garage or waterproof overalls ::)

Clamshell design that came off has a larger volume than the replacement. New one seems near silent compared to the perforated original but I have only driven round the block so far.

(http://homepages.nildram.co.uk/~aholter/pict4153.jpg)
Title: Re: Another exhaust question
Post by: Andy H on 22 March 2010, 21:58:44
Yay! it passed its MOT :y

Just 2 advisories
1. rear number plate deteriorated.
2. inside edges of front tyres worn ::) now I wonder what the cause of that can be...... ;D
Title: Re: Another exhaust question
Post by: Andy H on 30 June 2013, 20:29:47
Genuine VX exhaust has completely rusted through at the brackets in front of the rear silencer after 2 years and 3 months >:(

Going to try an ETS exhaust this time. I really want clamshell silencers, the ebay shop pictures appear to show cylindrical silencers for the 2.5 offering and clamshell silencers for the 3.0 so I have ordered the 3.0. :y
Title: Re: Another exhaust question
Post by: biggriffin on 01 July 2013, 10:34:17
Ive got ETS system on my 3.2  lovely fit and came with all the hangers and bolts,and a good price £97.00 delivered  :y
Title: Re: Another exhaust question
Post by: kev2b4 on 01 July 2013, 16:18:46
Just fitted a stainless one ( from Poland) - replacing a gm one on the MFL, ( st st one was on the FL - but haven't got around to changing the engine on it -so have 'borrowed' st st)
Surprisingly the ss one is noticeably quieter than the old cs GM one - which was only starting to leak a little on the welds on the middle sections.