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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: olliejm on 08 April 2010, 12:21:21
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Hi
Hope somebody can help me clarify this - I swapped my Mondeo for a 1999 Omega Elite, 2 days ago. I've been looking through the posts and I am confused by the facelift thingy.
I read a post yesterday, which said that if your electric window switches are on the drivers door then it is a facelift model - but also that face lift models started at V reg.
Mine is a T reg (Aug 1999) and has the switches on the drivers door.
Also, I bought a Haynes manual ('94 - '99) but the layout of the dash is different from mine. The dash only has a 1 din aperture for the radio in the manual, whereas in my Elite it has what must be a 2 din fitting, at least. It has a Siemens NCDR 2011 fitted.
The handbook (user guide and Audio guide) that came with the car bear no relation to the car.
So, I'm at a loss - I need to find out because I need to locate a key fob remote that will switch the alarm off instead of having to use the key.
Any help/advice would be much appreciated, cheers
Ollie
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Have you got a photo? It sounds like a facelift, but must be a very early one. Is it the same shape as the one in my avatar, which is a pre-facelift.
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I believe that the mini facelift uses the new dash layout and the full facelift has a different bonnet and lights(grille is part of bonnet).some one correct me if this is wrong
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OK from what you've said already it's a facelift. Double DIN head unit, window switches in the drivers door, blue background on the clocks. Is the grill attached to the bonnet or the slam panel?
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I have a mini-facelift, but the elec window switches are still in the centre console so would take yours to be a very early facelift model.
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Wow
Cheers for the response guys - the grille is attached to the bonnet and on the dash, the sat nav is full colour - I've seen some that are orange display on black screen. Sorry for being so ignorant but I've only had the car 2 days - in fact it's my first ever vauxhall - cracking car though.
I do have pictures but not sure how to get them on here yet.
Cheers
Ollie
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Facelift started "about" 1999, mine is a 99 on a T reg and mine is a "mini facelift" with leccy window switches by the gear shifter, and a double din radio aperture. Yours appears to be "facelift", and therefore should have switches on the drivers door. Haynes manuals are known as the "book of lies" cos they are not entirely correct with a lot of things printed in them....Beware!!
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I believe that the mini facelift uses the new dash layout and the full facelift has a different bonnet and lights(grille is part of bonnet).some one correct me if this is wrong
Prefacelift & minifacelift are in essence the same car, but with a few tweaks here & there. They both have the same basic dash layout & are both different from the facelift cars. :y
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I believe that the mini facelift uses the new dash layout and the full facelift has a different bonnet and lights(grille is part of bonnet).some one correct me if this is wrong
Prefacelift & minifacelift are in essence the same car, but with a few tweaks here & there. They both have the same basic dash layout & are both different from the facelift cars. :y
thanks for clearing that up andy
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Thanks everybody for such a quick response - very helpful.
I have had probs with Haynes manuals before - for a ford mondeo which was on a 'facelift cusp' - wasn't very accurate at all.
Am I right in thinking that this will affect the type of remote key fob that I need. The one that came with it doesn't work so, when I open the door, I have turn on the ignition to shut the alarm off.
What kind would I need (this one has 3 buttons) and where might I get one from.
Cheers
Ollie
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Wow
Cheers for the response guys - the grille is attached to the bonnet and on the dash, the sat nav is full colour - I've seen some that are orange display on black screen. Sorry for being so ignorant but I've only had the car 2 days - in fact it's my first ever vauxhall - cracking car though.
I do have pictures but not sure how to get them on here yet.
Cheers
Ollie
It's an early facelift :y
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I have only ever seen one facelift on a 'T' plate before, it was an estate. 99% of Facelift's can only be found on 'V' plate and later. If you're not sure how to upload pictures, you can send them to me and I'll upload them for you. Just send me a PM if you want me to do it, and I'll give you my email address :y
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Thanks everybody for such a quick response - very helpful.
I have had probs with Haynes manuals before - for a ford mondeo which was on a 'facelift cusp' - wasn't very accurate at all.
Am I right in thinking that this will affect the type of remote key fob that I need. The one that came with it doesn't work so, when I open the door, I have turn on the ignition to shut the alarm off.
What kind would I need (this one has 3 buttons) and where might I get one from.
Cheers
Ollie
does the little red light on the remote control flash when you press it?
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No it doesn't but I did put a new battery in it when I got it (CR2032).
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Sorry, should have said - I have tried turning key to position 2 and pressing a button - but nothing happens.
Cheers
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thats a shame as sometimes they just need a reset by turning on ignition and pressing the lock button to re synch
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I read that in one of the forums - so I tried it yesterday.
It must be broken inside or something, so looks like I'll have to replace fob.
Cheers for the advice
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.... so looks like I'll have to replace fob.
Cheers for the advice
that'll cost you ..... both for the fob & then for it to reprogrammed via Tech II. Do as Entwood suggested & send it to Martin, he'll sort it for a very reasonable cost! :y :y
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New remote fobs are about £30 from VX dealers but you need the car pass to get it Programmed to your car. if you have the car pass then one of the guys on here will tech-2 it for you (for a small fee).
My dealer wanted £30 for re-programming
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I really need to do it ASAP as I only have the one key. Is the pass the laminated card with security info on?
If so, I've got that - much as I hate going to dealers, I might have to do that.
I didn't see a message from Entwood, suggesting Martin - sorry
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I really need to do it ASAP as I only have the one key. Is the pass the laminated card with security info on?
If so, I've got that - much as I hate going to dealers, I might have to do that.
I didn't see a message from Entwood, suggesting Martin - sorry
Yes that's the one. :y Should also contain your radio code (and CD changer if you have one).
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Yes it does - cheers for that.
I really appreciate that.
Ollie
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Uploaded on behalf of Ollie...
Indeed it is a facelift on a 'T' plate, the two things I find interesting is the fact the Sat Nav isn't a NCDC 2013 or 2015, but a model I don't recognise. And like the prefacelifts it just says 'Elite' on the boot lid. Every other facelift I've seen has just 'Omega' or 'Omega 3.2 V6' etc etc.
(http://i674.photobucket.com/albums/vv110/joshwyatt/DSCF0008.jpg)
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Showing as first registered 17 August 1999 so very nearly a V reg........
Nothing unusual considering that......
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Cheers for that Josh
The CD is a Siemens NCDR 2011 - no multichanger that I can find.
They must have thought it was a bad idea
Maybe they ran out of pre facelifts in August
Ollie
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Was the ncdr2011 ever a uk spec radio in the omega :-/