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Title: TD EGR pipe
Post by: Pitchfork on 18 April 2010, 11:21:31
This is the stainless steel (I think) pipe that bolts to a flange on the O/S of the engine
Mine has fractured again at the point where it is attached to the engine
As this the the second time it's broken could there be a specific reason or is it just a design weakness?
How necessary is EGR on a tractor? I notice in the Range-Rover engine manual that  there were versions without EGR
Anybody got a spare one before I trek of to the VX dealer?
Title: Re: TD EGR pipe
Post by: Elite Pete on 18 April 2010, 11:31:59
I've done away with mine ;)
Title: Re: TD EGR pipe
Post by: Pitchfork on 18 April 2010, 12:29:25
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I've done away with mine ;)
Did it make any difference either to performance or emmissions for the MOT?
Title: Re: TD EGR pipe
Post by: TheBoy on 18 April 2010, 12:30:21
Diesels use EGRs more than petrol to gain cruising economy (rather than pure emissions).

PF - the pipe is joined at either end, but also bracket in middle near vac pump - your bracket still in place.

I **may** have one in garage, if so its yours if ever you pass (or we can arrange OOF postal service)
Title: Re: TD EGR pipe
Post by: Pitchfork on 18 April 2010, 12:56:31
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Diesels use EGRs more than petrol to gain cruising economy (rather than pure emissions).

PF - the pipe is joined at either end, but also bracket in middle near vac pump - your bracket still in place.

I **may** have one in garage, if so its yours if ever you pass (or we can arrange OOF postal service)
I'll check for the bracket
Ironically it failed last night as I was driving along the A43 just as I was passing the Brackley turn-off on my way to a gig in Northampton. I'll check in the morning with VX to see whether one is still available & how log it would be & get back to you if you do actually have one.
BTW is a BMW or Range-Rover pipe going to be identical?
Title: Re: TD EGR pipe
Post by: Pitchfork on 18 April 2010, 14:22:24
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Diesels use EGRs more than petrol to gain cruising economy (rather than pure emissions).

PF - the pipe is joined at either end, but also bracket in middle near vac pump - your bracket still in place.

I **may** have one in garage, if so its yours if ever you pass (or we can arrange OOF postal service)
I'll check for the bracket
Ironically it failed last night as I was driving along the A43 just as I was passing the Brackley turn-off on my way to a gig in Northampton. I'll check in the morning with VX to see whether one is still available & how log it would be & get back to you if you do actually have one.
BTW is a BMW or Range-Rover pipe going to be identical?
Well the bracket's there (strapping it to another pipe)
Is there a design fault as it's now failed twice, or something more sinister afoot?
Title: Re: TD EGR pipe
Post by: Omegatoy on 18 April 2010, 16:36:06
should be a10mm bolt holding a small p bracket supporting the pipe near the water pump!!! they often snap if it isnt in place!!
Title: Re: TD EGR pipe
Post by: Elite Pete on 18 April 2010, 17:25:26
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I've done away with mine ;)
Did it make any difference either to performance or emmissions for the MOT?
Don't know yet ::)
Title: Re: TD EGR pipe
Post by: Psychoca on 18 April 2010, 18:56:29
I've done away with mine, slight performance gain, no darker exhaust smoke, I blanked mine after the pipe failed within 3 months of changing it...

I actually used the old pipe, cut down and hammered closed in order to blank the exhaust side, and a little bit of tin to blak the inlet side...
Title: Re: TD EGR pipe
Post by: Pitchfork on 18 April 2010, 19:06:19
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should be a10mm bolt holding a small p bracket supporting the pipe near the water pump!!! they often snap if it isnt in place!!
It's all there correctly but has failed twice!
Title: Re: TD EGR pipe
Post by: TheBoy on 18 April 2010, 19:40:13
sorry, no spare egr pipe, must have binned it  :-[
Title: Re: TD EGR pipe
Post by: Squealey on 18 April 2010, 22:01:59
Think I may have a spare pipe if you'd like me to have a look?
Title: Re: TD EGR pipe
Post by: Pitchfork on 19 April 2010, 10:19:32
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Think I may have a spare pipe if you'd like me to have a look?
Thanks but I've just orderd another one from local VX
As this is the 2nd time it's happened to me, I would hang on to it if I were you!
Title: Re: TD EGR pipe
Post by: Pitchfork on 19 April 2010, 15:10:31
Out of curiosity, has anyone else had this pipe fail twice (or even once for that matter)?
Both of mine have been at the end bolted to the EGR
Title: Re: TD EGR pipe
Post by: TheBoy on 19 April 2010, 15:14:54
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Out of curiosity, has anyone else had this pipe fail twice (or even once for that matter)?
Both of mine have been at the end bolted to the EGR
When I got my tractor, it had previously failed at engine end, and been bodged up (and sesequently failed again).  Put one on from scrappy, never failed again.
Title: Re: TD EGR pipe
Post by: Pitchfork on 19 April 2010, 20:37:49
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Out of curiosity, has anyone else had this pipe fail twice (or even once for that matter)?
Both of mine have been at the end bolted to the EGR
When I got my tractor, it had previously failed at engine end, and been bodged up (and sesequently failed again).  Put one on from scrappy, never failed again.
The replacement which has just failed (in the Brackley triangle) was new about 5 years & 50K miles ago
Title: Re: TD EGR pipe
Post by: TheBoy on 19 April 2010, 21:25:03
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Out of curiosity, has anyone else had this pipe fail twice (or even once for that matter)?
Both of mine have been at the end bolted to the EGR
When I got my tractor, it had previously failed at engine end, and been bodged up (and sesequently failed again).  Put one on from scrappy, never failed again.
The replacement which has just failed (in the Brackley triangle) was new about 5 years & 50K miles ago
Lots of Omega break in the Brackley Triangle ;D ;D ;D