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Title: Lack of throttle response on DBW
Post by: RobG on 17 April 2010, 20:34:38
Code P1555--TPS. EML illuminates randomly. Symptons; When pressing throttle to pull away engine doesn`t rev at all, release throttle momentarily and press again, all OK. Also happens, albeit not all the time, when accelerating after slowing at junctions/give ways. Same operation, quick release and press down on throttle and OK again. Stripped and cleaned throttle body and breathers, still the same. No other codes and car runs perfect. Any ideas please :-/
Title: Re: Lack of throttle response on DBW
Post by: charlie on 17 April 2010, 20:41:21
On mine after a long run using c. control.when cc turned off there is a very noticable difference in throttle reponse untill car as been switched off.PLus a friend had an 2.2 vectra when he pressed the pedal and got no reponse,the aa man said that what happens when the engine floods .
Title: Re: Lack of throttle response on DBW
Post by: RobG on 17 April 2010, 20:46:02
No CC and no petrol smell. As said, drives perfect apart from this fault
Title: Re: Lack of throttle response on DBW
Post by: tunnie on 17 April 2010, 20:57:51
only time i have un-responsive throttle, was early signs of cam sensor failure  :-/
Title: Re: Lack of throttle response on DBW
Post by: RobG on 17 April 2010, 20:59:54
Was it the same/similar symptons Tunnie, no revs then a quick release and press and all OK :question
Title: Re: Lack of throttle response on DBW
Post by: tunnie on 17 April 2010, 21:03:02
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Was it the same/similar symptons Tunnie, no revs then a quick release and press and all OK :question

No, i had zero throttle response until i restarted. When it was unresponsive i just had an unusually high idle of 1.2k rpm.
Title: Re: Lack of throttle response on DBW
Post by: RobG on 17 April 2010, 22:27:07
Idling perfect and no need for a re-start just a quick release & press of the throttle :-/
Title: Re: Lack of throttle response on DBW
Post by: tunnie on 18 April 2010, 00:08:08
humm, must be position sensor on the pedal itself  :-/
Title: Re: Lack of throttle response on DBW
Post by: Auto Addict on 18 April 2010, 07:27:47
Could be the butterfly sticking, try a drop of 3:1 oil (and I mean a drop).
Title: Re: Lack of throttle response on DBW
Post by: RobG on 18 April 2010, 10:30:58
Dropped 3 in 1 on the butterfly after cleaning body. Are there any contacts or such like on the sensor at the pedal :question
Title: Re: Lack of throttle response on DBW
Post by: tunnie on 18 April 2010, 10:45:08
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Dropped 3 in 1 on the butterfly after cleaning body. Are there any contacts or such like on the sensor at the pedal :question

There is a sensor on the pedal (well rather at the back, like clutch switch) Which knows how much you are pressing the pedal, is it possible that's got dirty?  :-/ :-/
Title: Re: Lack of throttle response on DBW
Post by: RobG on 18 April 2010, 11:01:09
I shall check it out see what I can suss out :y
Title: Re: Lack of throttle response on DBW
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 18 April 2010, 11:15:59
throttle position sensor is near the throttle on V6, is 2.2 different ?
Title: Re: Lack of throttle response on DBW
Post by: tunnie on 18 April 2010, 11:19:56
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throttle position sensor is near the throttle on V6, is 2.2 different ?

I *believe* there is another on the 2.2's and DBW on the pedal itself, as non-DBW are physically linked to the throttle body, 2.2 is not.

So could be that sensor getting stuck maybe? Not seen it before though
Title: Re: Lack of throttle response on DBW
Post by: RobG on 18 April 2010, 13:23:50
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Was it the same/similar symptons Tunnie, no revs then a quick release and press and all OK :question

No, i had zero throttle response until i restarted. When it was unresponsive i just had an unusually high idle of 1.2k rpm.
Sensor on pedal seems OK. Just had this happen, no throttle until switched off then on. Tunnie, did you get the 0340 cam sensor code at all. :question Put the reader on it and no stored or pending codes :-/ Is it possible to have an intermittent fault with the cam sensor and not to throw an 0340 :question
Title: Re: Lack of throttle response on DBW
Post by: tunnie on 18 April 2010, 13:33:05
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Was it the same/similar symptons Tunnie, no revs then a quick release and press and all OK :question

No, i had zero throttle response until i restarted. When it was unresponsive i just had an unusually high idle of 1.2k rpm.
Sensor on pedal seems OK. Just had this happen, no throttle until switched off then on. Tunnie, did you get the 0340 cam sensor code at all. :question Put the reader on it and no stored or pending codes :-/ Is it possible to have an intermittent fault with the cam sensor and not to throw an 0340 :question

Having trouble remembering now, was about 4 years ago. Think i had it tech2'd and it was showing cam sensor error
Title: Re: Lack of throttle response on DBW
Post by: RobG on 18 April 2010, 14:08:12
Think I`ll bite the bullet and replace the cam sensor. IIRC it`s been known to throw spurious codes and unexplained malfunctions without revealing the 0340
Title: Re: Lack of throttle response on DBW
Post by: RobG on 21 April 2010, 10:08:58
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Was it the same/similar symptons Tunnie, no revs then a quick release and press and all OK :question

No, i had zero throttle response until i restarted. When it was unresponsive i just had an unusually high idle of 1.2k rpm.
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Changed the cam sensor yesterday (genuine) now I`m getting this quite often. Any more ideas please :-/
Title: Re: Lack of throttle response on DBW
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 21 April 2010, 12:13:06
try throttle position sensor imo..
Title: Re: Lack of throttle response on DBW
Post by: tunnie on 21 April 2010, 12:30:50
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Was it the same/similar symptons Tunnie, no revs then a quick release and press and all OK :question

No, i had zero throttle response until i restarted. When it was unresponsive i just had an unusually high idle of 1.2k rpm.
Update.
Changed the cam sensor yesterday (genuine) now I`m getting this quite often. Any more ideas please :-/

More often!? thats odd... agree with Cem throttle sensor itself now
Title: Re: Lack of throttle response on DBW
Post by: RobG on 21 April 2010, 12:42:19
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Was it the same/similar symptons Tunnie, no revs then a quick release and press and all OK :question

No, i had zero throttle response until i restarted. When it was unresponsive i just had an unusually high idle of 1.2k rpm.
Update.
Changed the cam sensor yesterday (genuine) now I`m getting this quite often. Any more ideas please :-/

More often!? thats odd... agree with Cem throttle sensor itself now
On the throttle body or pedal :question
Title: Re: Lack of throttle response on DBW
Post by: tunnie on 21 April 2010, 12:48:21
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Was it the same/similar symptons Tunnie, no revs then a quick release and press and all OK :question

No, i had zero throttle response until i restarted. When it was unresponsive i just had an unusually high idle of 1.2k rpm.
Update.
Changed the cam sensor yesterday (genuine) now I`m getting this quite often. Any more ideas please :-/

More often!? thats odd... agree with Cem throttle sensor itself now
On the throttle body or pedal :question

I'd say throttle body, not really seen pedal sensor fail  :-/
Title: Re: Lack of throttle response on DBW
Post by: RobG on 21 April 2010, 12:52:57
New body then I suppose. TPS is sealed unit I presume :'(
Title: Re: Lack of throttle response on DBW
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 21 April 2010, 12:56:16
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New body then I suppose. TPS is sealed unit I presume :'(

I bought tps seperately.. :-/
Title: Re: Lack of throttle response on DBW
Post by: RobG on 21 April 2010, 12:59:56
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New body then I suppose. TPS is sealed unit I presume :'(

I bought tps seperately.. :-/
Can be purchased on it`s own for cable operated throttle but on the DBW it appears to be part & parcel of the throttle body.
Title: Re: Lack of throttle response on DBW
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 21 April 2010, 13:02:47
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New body then I suppose. TPS is sealed unit I presume :'(

I bought tps seperately.. :-/
Can be purchased on it`s own for cable operated throttle but on the DBW it appears to be part & parcel of the throttle body.

ok then.. imo, before shopping test with some members tps close to you..