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Title: TD Smokey on Startup
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 01 May 2010, 22:32:35
Is it normal for the 2.5 TD to be a bit smokey (dark smoke) on startup, clearing when engine up to temp?

Assuming glowplugs are new, what else to look for aside of filters and such... common problem?
Title: Re: TD Smokey on Startup
Post by: Welung666 on 01 May 2010, 22:42:17
I just the lightest waft of dark smoke after the glow plugs have been on, clears pretty much right away though.
Title: Re: TD Smokey on Startup
Post by: Seth on 01 May 2010, 22:48:34
Pretty much as Wellung says ......
First few revs, literally, and then pretty well clear James.

Is it starting pretty well 'on the button'?

Title: Re: TD Smokey on Startup
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 01 May 2010, 22:53:42
Starts without fault, but is smokey for around 5 mins.

Then clears, and continues to run great.

Is it common, or, do I walk?  ::)
Title: Re: TD Smokey on Startup
Post by: tidla on 01 May 2010, 22:59:41
whats the mileage?
injector cleaner in the tank. injectors not atomising untill cyl temp rises? :)
Title: Re: TD Smokey on Startup
Post by: Seth on 01 May 2010, 23:00:21
Asking the obvious James:
Oily or fuelly smoke?
Is it getting up to operating temp - knackered 'stat etc?
Title: Re: TD Smokey on Startup
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 01 May 2010, 23:03:51
130k miles

I really only have limited info - it's a gamble on whether or not to purchase at a reasonable cost.. . :y
Title: Re: TD Smokey on Startup
Post by: ffcgary1 on 01 May 2010, 23:55:42
Check VERY carefuly the hose on the intercooler or intake side as this can cause exesessive smoke on start up. In fact check all the pipes and hoses while your at it. if your sure that all are ok then a bottle of diesel magic may cure it .
Title: Re: TD Smokey on Startup
Post by: hoofing it on 02 May 2010, 07:06:32
could be oil in the charge pipe/manifold take the charge pipe off and have a look if its totaly running with oil walk away turbo feked.
if its a fuel smoke try cleaning the injectors and diesel magic it also check codes. :y
Title: Re: TD Smokey on Startup
Post by: Omegatoy on 02 May 2010, 08:17:16
130k nothing, if its black smoke until its warm but no other seen faults i would assume the car has done a lot of very short journeys and is coked up!, test drive will tell, limited info? have you not seen the car yet then?
could do with a little more infor to be honest
Title: Re: TD Smokey on Startup
Post by: Omegatoy on 02 May 2010, 08:27:36
just reread it and black smoke suggests unburnt fuel, which could be any number of things what year is the car? npersonally if its cheap enough then i would buy it cos they are very easy to sought out!!
Title: Re: TD Smokey on Startup
Post by: TheBoy on 02 May 2010, 11:12:22
If it turns over a couple of times before firing, that can make them smoke. Or if a couple of glowplugs are down.  Poor fuel doesn't help.
Title: Re: TD Smokey on Startup
Post by: Seth on 02 May 2010, 11:51:19
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If it turns over a couple of times before firing, that can make them smoke. Or if a couple of glowplugs are down.  Poor fuel doesn't help.

My initial thoughts, but after re-reading James' post, the smoke persists for around 5 mins.

Personally, I'm thinking some TLC here - a damn good service, a good drink of Diesel Magic, and an 'Italian Tune-up'
 :y
Title: Re: TD Smokey on Startup
Post by: Omegatoy on 02 May 2010, 16:59:11
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If it turns over a couple of times before firing, that can make them smoke. Or if a couple of glowplugs are down.  Poor fuel doesn't help.

My initial thoughts, but after re-reading James' post, the smoke persists for around 5 mins.

Personally, I'm thinking some TLC here - a damn good service, a good drink of Diesel Magic, and an 'Italian Tune-up'
 :y

had same thoughts while i was resprayiing a vw camper today!!
 :y :y :y
Title: Re: TD Smokey on Startup
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 02 May 2010, 17:06:45
I didn't win the auction in the end. Missed it by a few quid  :'(
Title: Re: TD Smokey on Startup
Post by: Welung666 on 02 May 2010, 17:11:26
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I didn't win the auction in the end. Missed it by a few quid  :'(

Was that the blue GLS estate James?
Title: Re: TD Smokey on Startup
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 02 May 2010, 17:14:32
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I didn't win the auction in the end. Missed it by a few quid  :'(

Was that the blue GLS estate James?

Aye - did you go for it?  :y
Title: Re: TD Smokey on Startup
Post by: Welung666 on 02 May 2010, 18:12:52
No, was tempted as we need a workhorse for our gardening after the van failed it's MOT. More the fact it was a GLS that stopped me going for it I think.