Omega Owners Forum

Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: Sixstring on 19 May 2010, 11:10:12

Title: CONFUSED, DOT COM.
Post by: Sixstring on 19 May 2010, 11:10:12
Just bought a pair of front wishbones, got to fit them today, and the hole in one of the bushes is 16mm, and the other hole in the bush is 13mm!!  seeing as both the bolts are the same size, am going to drill out the hole in the bush to 16mm.

Any problem with doing that??

can't see why they fitted the wrong size bush, as they are VX parts.................
the other side has both bushes the same at 16mm.
Title: Re: CONFUSED, DOT COM.
Post by: Andy B on 19 May 2010, 11:20:41
Quote
Just bought a pair of front wishbones, got to fit them today, and the hole in one of the bushes is 16mm, and the other hole in the bush is 13mm!!  seeing as both the bolts are the same size, am going to drill out the hole in the bush to 16mm.

Any problem with doing that??

can't see why they fitted the wrong size bush, as they are VX parts.................
the other side has both bushes the same at 16mm.

Take them back.  :y
Title: Re: CONFUSED, DOT COM.
Post by: Sixstring on 19 May 2010, 11:28:47
Can't!!!

car is up on ramp with no arms, idler, or wheels on.......
Kinda hard to drive it to Bristol to change them now........!
Title: Re: CONFUSED, DOT COM.
Post by: Andy B on 19 May 2010, 11:30:34
Quote
Can't!!!

car is up on ramp with no arms, idler, or wheels on.......
Kinda hard to drive it to Bristol to change them now........!

Ah!  :-?
Title: Re: CONFUSED, DOT COM.
Post by: 2woody on 19 May 2010, 11:35:51
drilling would only be safe if there is enough parent material.

measure the outside diameter of the bush inner sleeve, where its bonded to the rubber. If it's the same as the other side, you could attempt it. If it's not the same, then a return is your only option.

just think on - if you'd had an accident and ended up in court - the judge asks you how come this wishbone failed, causing you to leave the road, squashing that bus-queue of nuns - the only possible answer you would have is that you'd drilled it out. That's not going to look good !

especially now that you've announced your intention on the web....,!
Title: Re: CONFUSED, DOT COM.
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 19 May 2010, 11:36:31
Agh PC problems.... try again:

Does sound like you've had an incorrect one!!

If you drill it out, will there be enough supporting metal, surrounding the hole in the centre of the bush?
Title: Re: CONFUSED, DOT COM.
Post by: Andy B on 19 May 2010, 11:37:49
Quote
....
especially now that you've announced your intention on the web....,!

You mean you think that others might actually read the ramblings on these pages  :-?  :-?  ;)  :y
Title: Re: CONFUSED, DOT COM.
Post by: Sixstring on 19 May 2010, 11:46:39
No problem fellers......the outside diameter of the metal in the bush is identical to the other one, only the inside hole size is different. Did check that first. Drilling out the inside hole only makes the metal inside sleeve of the bushes identical.

Thanks for the thoughts though.
Title: Re: CONFUSED, DOT COM.
Post by: Andy B on 19 May 2010, 11:54:52
Quote
No problem fellers......the outside diameter of the metal in the bush is identical to the other one, only the inside hole size is different. Did check that first. Drilling out the inside hole only makes the metal inside sleeve of the bushes identical.

Thanks for the thoughts though.

What are you using to drill the bushes out with? Just about all the 16mm drill bits I've ever used are morse taper. If you had a straight shanked 16mm drill bit, it would be a fair old Jacob chuck to hold it & would you be able to hold the actuall drill, especially if it snatched/grabbed. I can just see a Sixstring spining around a wishbone holding tightly to a large hand drill  ;D ;D

The answer could I suppose be that you're taking it to work's radial arm drill  :y
Title: Re: CONFUSED, DOT COM.
Post by: Sixstring on 19 May 2010, 11:59:34
OH YES!

clamped in a very large radial arm drill using a steady stream of milky white coolant.........


like the analogy of me spinning around a wishbone...........LOL!
Title: Re: CONFUSED, DOT COM.
Post by: Andy B on 19 May 2010, 12:02:48
Quote
.....
like the analogy of me spinning around a wishbone...........LOL!

 ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D

We had a large 2 man 'hand drill' at sea. It was very easy to end up with 2 of you spinning around in circles  ;D  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: CONFUSED, DOT COM.
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 19 May 2010, 12:59:20
Quote
OH YES!

clamped in a very large radial arm drill using a steady stream of milky white coolant.........


like the analogy of me spinning around a wishbone...........LOL!

Can you set your video camera up before you start, could do with a good laugh.


On a serious note, please be very carefull. :y :y
Title: Re: CONFUSED, DOT COM.
Post by: Abiton on 19 May 2010, 13:13:01
If it was me, I'd photograph the 'bad' bush/wishbone next to the good bush/wishbone.  Phone up the dealer and ask for an email addy, send 'em the pic and have the buggers courier a correct one out to you!  Failing that you should be able to negotiate a retrospective discount.
Title: Re: CONFUSED, DOT COM.
Post by: eliteomegaman on 19 May 2010, 13:26:03
Quote
drilling would only be safe if there is enough parent material.

measure the outside diameter of the bush inner sleeve, where its bonded to the rubber. If it's the same as the other side, you could attempt it. If it's not the same, then a return is your only option.

just think on - if you'd had an accident and ended up in court - the judge asks you how come this wishbone failed, causing you to leave the road, squashing that bus-queue of nuns - the only possible answer you would have is that you'd drilled it out. That's not going to look good !

especially now that you've announced your intention on the web....,!


Mmmmm i've looked in my diary & i will be overseeing proceedings on the day ur up in the dock  :-/
so as i have the evidence & ur admitall in writing .........  :o

As for the nuns at the bus stop may i suggest u don't make a HABBIT of it!!!!  :D ;D :D
Title: Re: CONFUSED, DOT COM.
Post by: Sixstring on 19 May 2010, 13:27:45
Phoned them up, and their reply?????

"oh, sorry. bring it back and we'll replace it."
on being told my predicament with it up on the ramp and undriveable:
"tomorrow is ok."
on being told the bush is incorrect, so i want someone to bring me out one:
"sorry, we don't do that, you bought it in Bristol, we only deliver in Bristol"   (I'm 20 miles away in Lydney)

on asking for a discount:
"if you have to buy another one from an alternative source, we will only issue you with a credit note to buy something else from us"
on asking AGAIN for a DISCOUNT:
"sorry, we are not allowed to do that"
on asking for another bush to press out and replace it myself:
"no, you have to return it to us unmarked and unopened and we will give you another one"
But I couldn't find out it was wrong until I opened the box......??

You could'nt make it up.
Title: Re: CONFUSED, DOT COM.
Post by: Sixstring on 19 May 2010, 13:30:58
*UPDATE*

Drilled out PROPERLY and will be fitted correctly.

Will NOT be buying anything from that particular dealer again. and have written (with pictures) to their MD.

I await his grovelling reply.  (if he does actually reply)
Title: Re: CONFUSED, DOT COM.
Post by: henryd on 19 May 2010, 16:38:43
very helpfull bunch of to$$ers :(
Title: Re: CONFUSED, DOT COM.
Post by: eliteomegaman on 19 May 2010, 18:28:14
If i was u my friend, i would email/write to them again telling them that u have been in contact with ur solicitor who has advised u to inform them of 'The Sale of Goods Act 1979' which among other things states the following -

Fitness for purpose, s14(3) 
If the buyer expressly or impliedly makes his purpose for the goods known to the seller, the seller is obliged to make sure the goods provided are fit for that purpose, if it is reasonable for the buyer to rely on the seller's expertise.

I have quoted this numerous times to 'snotty' erchins who have tried to fob me off with ''sorry no exchange or discount if the packaging has been tampered with'' - how the effing heck are u supposed to see if they are the correct parts unless u open the effing packet/box  >:(

They are only too willing to offer a discount or swop once the 'Law' has been quoted  ;)

Good luck  :y
Title: Re: CONFUSED, DOT COM.
Post by: 2woody on 20 May 2010, 09:14:05
I'd be willing to pitch in, too. By day, I'm kind of in control of the spec and legality of a reasonably-sized fleet of vehicles. you may have seen them - they're all painted green. Also an "expert witness"
Title: Re: CONFUSED, DOT COM.
Post by: Sixstring on 20 May 2010, 11:09:54
Thankyou All for your kind advice.
Will give them every chance to reply, and then go in with the "big guns" if they don't bother.

Was not happy with my "drilled out" bush, have ordered another bush, and will be pressing it in soon as.
Title: Re: CONFUSED, DOT COM.
Post by: Eighth_dwarf on 20 May 2010, 11:54:41
Quote
*UPDATE*

Drilled out PROPERLY and will be fitted correctly.

Will NOT be buying anything from that particular dealer again. and have written (with pictures) to their MD.

I await his grovelling reply.  (if he does actually reply)


Patchway?, Avon St? or Kingswood?
Title: Re: CONFUSED, DOT COM.
Post by: Sixstring on 20 May 2010, 13:18:20
kingswood......didn't you guess?


Used to live in new chelt.......