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Title: Won't Start :(
Post by: Ratty on 19 May 2010, 15:05:52
My Miggy won't start, I was/am talking to Lee via PM about it but he's gone off to work now, so just putting out the feelers for some extra help :)

Lee had me paperclip it, and it came up with 12 135 and 31 all of which I believe are not a problem, I've been trying for 2 hours to get it started that I've flattened the battery so that is on charge for the next few hours or more, but in the mean time does anybody else have an idea what could be wrong?
Title: Re: Won't Start :(
Post by: neilr on 19 May 2010, 15:10:09
Have you done basics checked for fuel and spark. if these are ok I would be thinking crank sensor.
Title: Re: Won't Start :(
Post by: Elite Pete on 19 May 2010, 15:41:29
I would say its still the crank sensor as 19 doesn't always show ;)
Title: Re: Won't Start :(
Post by: harpersimon on 19 May 2010, 16:34:54
+1 on a crank sensor. Cheap and easy to replace first call anyway
Title: Re: Won't Start :(
Post by: Ratty on 19 May 2010, 16:42:26
so it seems it's unanimous on the crank sensor, how cheap is cheap? and exactly how easy is it for me who has arthritis in his back and knees?

what I'm thinking is can anyone give a price to supply one and fit it for me? 20 years ago I would have jumped at the chance of doing this kind of job plus a few others that have been done. but sadly... :(... Anyway enough of the tugging at heart strings, can anyone help?

 ;)


Title: Re: Won't Start :(
Post by: neilr on 19 May 2010, 16:50:39
prices are on earlier threads I think coastie 123 code ideas has them. I would offer but am too far away but Im sure someone will.
Title: Re: Won't Start :(
Post by: Ratty on 19 May 2010, 16:54:20
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prices are on earlier threads I think coastie 123 code ideas has them. I would offer but am too far away but Im sure someone will.

Thanks anyway, if only I was still in my hometown - Enfield lol
Title: Re: Won't Start :(
Post by: jordan681 on 19 May 2010, 20:48:31
Mine had the same problem, eventually got it started my getting a tow....   ;D

I used the following to help me change my crank sensor: http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1174321688

And i got a new sensor from lmfvauxhall £36.00 for mine
   http://www.lmfvauxhall.co.uk/store/home.php?cat=2488

Hope this helps  ;)
Title: Re: Won't Start :(
Post by: Elite Pete on 19 May 2010, 20:50:43
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Mine had the same problem, eventually got it started my getting a tow....   ;D

I used the following to help me change my crank sensor: http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1174321688

And i got a new sensor from lmfvauxhall £36.00 for mine
   http://www.lmfvauxhall.co.uk/store/home.php?cat=2488

Hope this helps  ;)
I really wouldn't get one of these. Go to your local Vauxhall dealer and get a proper genuine one ;)
Title: Re: Won't Start :(
Post by: Ratty on 20 May 2010, 08:41:20
Does the scuttle have to come off to get to the plug? I've had a look for mine and I can't see it let alone get to it  :-/
Title: Re: Won't Start :(
Post by: Welung666 on 20 May 2010, 10:41:30
If you can get one I'll pop over Saturday and fit it for you John :y
Title: Re: Won't Start :(
Post by: Ratty on 20 May 2010, 11:49:32
You sir, are a gentleman and a scholar  :y

Daz has been helping me find one but dunno whether I can get today or tomorrow, but either way I should have one by Saturday :).
Title: Re: Won't Start :(
Post by: Welung666 on 20 May 2010, 11:57:48
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You sir, are a gentleman and a scholar  :y

Daz has been helping me find one but dunno whether I can get today or tomorrow, but either way I should have one by Saturday :).

I'm working so that's the earliest I can get over unfortunately. Now I got to remember how to get to you ;D ;D
Title: Re: Won't Start :(
Post by: Ratty on 20 May 2010, 12:00:55
Pm'd my addy to ya, just to refresh your memory  :y
Title: Re: Won't Start :(
Post by: Ratty on 20 May 2010, 15:13:13
Ok, took the scuttle off and think I've found the right plug can someone just confirm I have and that it is the oval one please.

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y149/ratsalad/Public/th_DSC_2820.jpg) (http://s4.photobucket.com/albums/y149/ratsalad/Public/?action=view&current=DSC_2820.jpg)
Title: Re: Won't Start :(
Post by: Elite Pete on 20 May 2010, 15:31:31
Thats the right one ;)
Title: Re: Won't Start :(
Post by: Ratty on 20 May 2010, 15:33:09
Thank you Pete :D :y
Title: Re: Won't Start :(
Post by: tuckshop on 20 May 2010, 22:20:07
had to change mine today. It had caused 2 cut outs during 2 u-turns leaving me in the middle of the road and 2 failure to start from outside my house in the last 3 weeks.

it cost 50 or 60 from the local dealer - list price was 72.

can't remember exact price but all up with replacement o-ring for the sump plug, 6 litres of 10-40 semi synthetic and a filter it cost me £101.60p.

Making the change was fairly simple.
Title: Re: Won't Start :(
Post by: Ratty on 20 May 2010, 23:28:50
Mine just failed to start outside the house, had been working fine Tuesday night, Wednesday morning turned the key and it turned over nicely but wouldn't fire :( it only happened once before and that was last September but a continued turning of the key had working it again and not a problem with it since... till now that is.

a few years ago I would have jumped at doing this kind of job, it is easy, but I suffer with arthritis in my back and knees and can't get under cars like I used to hence asking for help to fit it. it is embarrassing though because it IS so easy.

My local Vauxhall dealer Brandish wanted £98.11 for the sensor and they didn't have one in stock and would have to order it in, Great Central Vauxhall, Rugby apparently have both versions in stock and I'll pick one up tomorrow not sure on the price but they can't be worse than Brandish, and fingers crossed, I'll be able to get a friend to get it on his TC which might help with the price a bit too ;)
Title: Re: Won't Start :(
Post by: david_omega on 20 May 2010, 23:33:41
i have got one here from a 3.2i v6 auto, if someone confirms thats the right one and lets me know on here by the morning i am in the office at 730 to 8am before going to the auctions, i could dig it out for you and get it mailed out for a very small £
it works fine as removed from a running car.
Title: Re: Won't Start :(
Post by: Andy B on 20 May 2010, 23:38:18
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i have got one here from a 3.2i v6 auto, if someone confirms thats the right one and lets me know on here by the morning i am in the office at 730 to 8am before going to the auctions, i could dig it out for you and get it mailed out for a very small £
it works fine as removed from a running car.

Different Simon unfortunately.
Omega Part Number Retail Price Normal Trade Trade Club
Crankshaft sensors
2.0 16v to 14194716                                90458251 £60.50 £54.46 £47.10

 
U25TD/X25TD                                  90487810 £98.50 £88.65 £76.94

 
2.5 (early models)                                 90492006 £83.50 £75.15 £65.12

 
2.5 (later models)                                 90492061 £61.50 £55.36 £47.88

 
2.0 8v                                   90493864 £60.50 £54.46 £47.10

 
2.0DTi/2.2DTi                                  90540188 £37.75 £33.98 £29.40

 
2.6/3.0/3.2                                  90540743 £55.00 £49.56 £42.63

 
2.0 16v from 14194717/31000001                              9174621 £36.60 £33.00 £28.47

 


Title: Re: Won't Start :(
Post by: Ratty on 20 May 2010, 23:41:29
Simon, thank you very much for the offer but as per Andy's post it doesn't look like it's the same.

But thanks for thinking about it, it's really appreciated :)
Title: Re: Won't Start :(
Post by: NF on 21 May 2010, 02:04:56
I changed mine two weeks ago, looks exactly the same
Title: Re: Won't Start :(
Post by: Ratty on 21 May 2010, 16:32:31
Got the part today, £47.88 +VAT as per Andy B's post :) I can't believe Brandish wanted £98.11 +VAT for it.

Title: Re: Won't Start :(
Post by: Ratty on 22 May 2010, 14:57:52
It was the crank sensor, Lee came over and fitted it for me (he says embarrassingly) Thanks Lee You're a star and thanks to everyone else that steered me to the culprit :) :y
Title: Re: Won't Start :(
Post by: Welung666 on 22 May 2010, 15:05:26
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It was the crank sensor, Lee came over and fitted it for me (he says embarrassingly) Thanks Lee You're a star and thanks to everyone else that steered me to the culprit :) :y

No worries mate, anytime :y