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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: Geoff-H on 22 May 2010, 17:30:41

Title: Fitting new wishbones
Post by: Geoff-H on 22 May 2010, 17:30:41
I have just spent three hours fighting to fit a new wishbone to my Omega. Getting the old one off was no problem but having got the new one bolted in at the chassis end, I found that there was not enough downward movement available at the outer end to get the pin into the pinch bolt.

Is there a clever trick involving compressing the spring a bit? Or is the lower edge flange on the new wishbone a bit too tall? (and thus restricting downward movement). 

Would love some well informed advice before I do battle with the other one!

Thanks...  Geoff   :-/
Title: Re: Fitting new wishbones
Post by: holtender on 22 May 2010, 17:56:13
If my memory serves me well one side is much easier to do than the other.
Title: Re: Fitting new wishbones
Post by: Geoff-H on 22 May 2010, 19:59:46
Er.... So have I just done the easy one or the difficult one?

(I've just done the offside) :)
Title: Re: Fitting new wishbones
Post by: Welung666 on 22 May 2010, 20:23:01
Passenger side is the harder side, still only half an hour a side though ;)

EDIT: Looden the chassis side back off, fit ball joint and get it back on the ground before you tighten the chassis side again :y
Title: Re: Fitting new wishbones
Post by: holtender on 22 May 2010, 20:33:03
Offside is the easier of the two I thought.
Title: Re: Fitting new wishbones
Post by: Agemo on 22 May 2010, 20:40:09
Geoff, there are some wonderful "How-to's" on here, the one on wishbones if no exception, I would advise reading it, even though you have done yours. It is recommended you change both sides then have a 4 wheel alignment. Drop links are cheap, and again it is recommended you change these while you are doing the wishbones.
How-to:-
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1152986949
 :y
Title: Re: Fitting new wishbones
Post by: Welung666 on 22 May 2010, 21:02:09
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Offside is the easier of the two I thought.

I just said that, well in a roundabout sort of way ;D
Title: Re: Fitting new wishbones
Post by: Geoff-H on 22 May 2010, 22:13:37
Thank you for all the replies and pointing me at the 'how to' listing (which describes exactly what I expected to encounter). Unfortunately, no one seems to have addressed the specific problem I encountered:  I got the new wishbone in position on the chassis side and the bolts back in without too much trouble but there was then insufficient downward movement to get the ball joint pin clear of the knuckle. Did I miss a trick? Or is there an issue with the parts I am using?  :-/
Title: Re: Fitting new wishbones
Post by: manny on 22 May 2010, 23:42:33
Its because the new wishbone bushes are new and have got less flex than the old ones. I had some one push down with a size 10 boot on the wishbone while i got the hub to line up with pin.    
Title: Re: Fitting new wishbones
Post by: Robin Hood on 23 May 2010, 08:45:36
A lump of wood on the edge of the wishbone and a hammer did it for me.  Had tried the car jack between wishbone and drop-link bracket on strut before that, but no joy.
Title: Re: Fitting new wishbones
Post by: Agemo on 23 May 2010, 13:30:00
I find that someone levering the wishbone down does the trick, don't struggle yourself, get someone else to do it so they have full control. I always go over everything with an oily rag before fitting too.
Title: Re: Fitting new wishbones
Post by: Geoff-H on 24 May 2010, 18:45:19
Thank you for all the comments. I was very tired when I posted my original message having fought the problem for so long!  I have come to the conclusion, (because no one else seems to have been there) that the problem I have encountered is as a consequence of the parts (factored cos I'm strapped for cash at the mo!) having  a slightly high flange on the lower edge. This then fouls the pocket in the chassis that the rear bush goes into. The error only needs to be very small as it is amplified by the length of the wishbone.

I will do battle with the other one next weekend and see how I get on!

Cheers

Geoff
Title: Re: Fitting new wishbones
Post by: tidla on 24 May 2010, 19:42:40
birmingham screwdriver for the other side. :)
Title: Re: Fitting new wishbones
Post by: holtender on 24 May 2010, 19:47:39
Sounds just about roite our kid if you know I mean loike.
Title: Re: Fitting new wishbones
Post by: bodach on 29 May 2010, 12:07:47
I found if I left the front chassis unfixed & pushed the strut backwards it gave me a little bit more play to insert the ball joint. Like you I had to struggle maybe there is as you say a bit of a difference in the flange which exagerates at the ball joint. Good luck not easy thats for sure.
Title: Re: Fitting new wishbones
Post by: Welung666 on 29 May 2010, 12:49:59
TBH I fit the chassis end last! I just finger tighten the bolt on the ball joint end then pull the leg out so the chassis side slips in, fit the vertical bolt at the rear then manipulate the front into position. It's the quickest way I've found and can do a pair in just over an hour.
Title: Re: Fitting new wishbones
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 29 May 2010, 12:53:59
If you are Raising only one side of the car at a time, this will cause the exact problem you describe.

Can you confirm you are doing this with both front wheels clear of the ground?
Title: Re: Fitting new wishbones
Post by: Steve 1564 on 29 May 2010, 13:43:19
... Spent over 2 hours last week trying to fit one only to discover that the hole in the rear bush was too small for the bolt !!!
Manufacturing error i guess but what a pain....

Its a bit easier if you replace the drop links at the same time (more movement on the "Jock-Leg") - Just watch out for the brake hose....