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Title: Brake lights not working
Post by: age_of_generals on 28 May 2010, 20:46:21
Hi all,

The brake lights at the back, on the bonnet have all stopped working, the bulbs seem fine.  The other night lights are working but no lights when you step on the brake

any ideas?
Title: Re: Brake lights not working
Post by: RobG on 28 May 2010, 20:51:39
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Hi all,

The brake lights at the back, on the bonnet have all stopped working, the bulbs seem fine.  The other night lights are working but no lights when you step on the brake

any ideas?
Mine don`t work on there either. They work at the back though :D
Title: Re: Brake lights not working
Post by: Andy B on 28 May 2010, 20:51:53
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Hi all,

The brake lights at the back, on the bonnet have all stopped working, the bulbs seem fine.  The other night lights are working but no lights when you step on the brake

any ideas?

No brake lights on my bonnet!  ::) ::) ;)
the brake lights are in the outer  light unit on the wings, those lamps on the boot lid are rear fog lights. I assume you've checked the lamps/bulbs themselves, they're a twin filament bulb. Brake light fuse in fuse 2, shared with the hazards  :y
Title: Re: Brake lights not working
Post by: age_of_generals on 28 May 2010, 20:53:35
lol, i just realised what i wrote,

boot not bonnet.  hope you had a good laugh!

lol
Title: Re: Brake lights not working
Post by: RobG on 28 May 2010, 20:55:03
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lol, i just realised what i wrote,

boot not bonnet.  hope you had a good laugh!

lol
It`s good when people can laugh at their own mistakes. :y :y
Title: Re: Brake lights not working
Post by: age_of_generals on 28 May 2010, 20:57:18
i definately had a good laugh!

So any ideas?  btw where is the brake light switch, could find it anywhere near the pedal?
Title: Re: Brake lights not working
Post by: Andy B on 28 May 2010, 20:59:27
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So any ideas?  btw where is the brake light switch, could find it anywhere near the pedal?

Brake switch is where you've been looking. Look at the arm under the card cover .... it's there. Honest!  :y

Title: Re: Brake lights not working
Post by: RobG on 28 May 2010, 21:11:58
Do you mean the brake lights on the rear quarterpanels (wings) or the rear fogs on the bootlid :question Fogs fuse is #28
Title: Re: Brake lights not working
Post by: age_of_generals on 28 May 2010, 22:09:34
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Do you mean the brake lights on the rear quarterpanels (wings) or the rear fogs on the bootlid :question Fogs fuse is #28
It's not the fogs, and not the lights on the rear qtr which come on when you turn your lights on, it's the light that are on the boot lid that are supposed to come on when you hit the brakes, they don't come on.
Title: Re: Brake lights not working
Post by: Andy B on 28 May 2010, 22:26:10
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Do you mean the brake lights on the rear quarterpanels (wings) or the rear fogs on the bootlid :question Fogs fuse is #28
It's not the fogs, and not the lights on the rear qtr which come on when you turn your lights on, it's the light that are on the boot lid that are supposed to come on when you hit the brakes, they don't come on.

As said above ... twice! Your brake lights are in the wings ie stop/tail lights ... a twin filament lamp. The lights in the boot lid are your rear fog lights! Try them, it's the push on/push off combned with your headlight switch
Title: Re: Brake lights not working
Post by: RobG on 28 May 2010, 22:28:08
 :D :D :D ::)
Title: Re: Brake lights not working
Post by: Andy B on 28 May 2010, 22:30:58
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:D :D :D ::)

Do we have a tsk! smilely?  ::)  :y
Title: Re: Brake lights not working
Post by: age_of_generals on 28 May 2010, 22:31:05
Ok, hmm, I didn't realise.  But the problem still is that the brake lights don't work, when I hit the brakes nothing lights up at the rear. 

Someone almost ran into the back and then told me. 

But the lights on the rear quarters do come on when you turn on the main lights.

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Do you mean the brake lights on the rear quarterpanels (wings) or the rear fogs on the bootlid :question Fogs fuse is #28
It's not the fogs, and not the lights on the rear qtr which come on when you turn your lights on, it's the light that are on the boot lid that are supposed to come on when you hit the brakes, they don't come on.

As said above ... twice! Your brake lights are in the wings ie stop/tail lights ... a twin filament lamp. The lights in the boot lid are your rear fog lights! Try them, it's the push on/push off combned with your headlight switch
Title: Re: Brake lights not working
Post by: Andy B on 28 May 2010, 22:31:59
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Ok, hmm, I didn't realise.  But the problem still is that the brake lights don't work, when I hit the brakes nothing lights up at the rear. 

Someone almost ran into the back and then told me. 

But the lights on the rear quarters do come on when you turn on the main lights.

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Do you mean the brake lights on the rear quarterpanels (wings) or the rear fogs on the bootlid :question Fogs fuse is #28
It's not the fogs, and not the lights on the rear qtr which come on when you turn your lights on, it's the light that are on the boot lid that are supposed to come on when you hit the brakes, they don't come on.

As said above ... twice! Your brake lights are in the wings ie stop/tail lights ... a twin filament lamp. The lights in the boot lid are your rear fog lights! Try them, it's the push on/push off combned with your headlight switch

Your stop/tail lamps are goosed! Replace them!  :-?

you can see there are TWO filament in them. One of them is oppsed  ;)
(http://product-image.tradeindia.com/00092459/b/0/Stop-Tail-Light-Bulb.jpg)
Title: Re: Brake lights not working
Post by: RobG on 28 May 2010, 22:36:49
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:D :D :D ::)

Do we have a tsk! smilely?  ::)  :y
I recommend this one (http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/smileys/sleep-038.gif) (http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/facebook-smileys.html)
Title: Re: Brake lights not working
Post by: RobG on 28 May 2010, 22:40:01
Or this one. "Why do I bother" ;D
(http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/smileys/free-indifferent-smileys-698.gif) (http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/Free-Innocent-Smileys/)
Title: Re: Brake lights not working
Post by: age_of_generals on 28 May 2010, 22:51:54
Just them out, filements look fine and then tested them with multimeter, both filements are fine.

The lights don't come on, on either side of the car, surely both bulbs couldn't be blown,

But anyhow, I've checked, both filements in each bulb are working.

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Ok, hmm, I didn't realise.  But the problem still is that the brake lights don't work, when I hit the brakes nothing lights up at the rear. 

Someone almost ran into the back and then told me. 

But the lights on the rear quarters do come on when you turn on the main lights.

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Do you mean the brake lights on the rear quarterpanels (wings) or the rear fogs on the bootlid :question Fogs fuse is #28
It's not the fogs, and not the lights on the rear qtr which come on when you turn your lights on, it's the light that are on the boot lid that are supposed to come on when you hit the brakes, they don't come on.

As said above ... twice! Your brake lights are in the wings ie stop/tail lights ... a twin filament lamp. The lights in the boot lid are your rear fog lights! Try them, it's the push on/push off combned with your headlight switch

Your stop/tail lamps are goosed! Replace them!  :-?

you can see there are TWO filament in them. One of them is oppsed  ;)
(http://product-image.tradeindia.com/00092459/b/0/Stop-Tail-Light-Bulb.jpg)
Title: Re: Brake lights not working
Post by: RobG on 28 May 2010, 22:55:50
If both bulbs work outside of the car then it`s either fuse #2 or a dodgy brake switch
Title: Re: Brake lights not working
Post by: age_of_generals on 28 May 2010, 22:59:36
fuse is fine, checked that one and many others, so it must be the brake switch.

not sure how to undo it, it damn awkward.  anybody replaced it before?

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If both bulbs work outside of the car then it`s either fuse #2 or a dodgy brake switch
Title: Re: Brake lights not working
Post by: RobG on 28 May 2010, 23:02:57
Before you go replacing the switch can you try your bulbs in another car
Title: Re: Brake lights not working
Post by: age_of_generals on 28 May 2010, 23:10:39
yep, going out now to try that, was just waiting for somone to add a comment.  i really need to drive back home to cambridge tonight.

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Before you go replacing the switch can you try your bulbs in another car
Title: Re: Brake lights not working
Post by: age_of_generals on 28 May 2010, 23:23:03
replaced the bulb, no difference, got to be the switch.

arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

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yep, going out now to try that, was just waiting for somone to add a comment.  i really need to drive back home to cambridge tonight.

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Before you go replacing the switch can you try your bulbs in another car
Title: Re: Brake lights not working
Post by: RobG on 28 May 2010, 23:35:30
Does the high level brake light work :question and is your info display giving a warning. When you say "replaced the bulb, did you put your bulbs in the other car
Title: Re: Brake lights not working
Post by: age_of_generals on 29 May 2010, 00:23:38
not sure what the high level brake light is, i took some bulbs out of the other omega and put them in and they didn't light up when i hit the brake as before.

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Does the high level brake light work :question and is your info display giving a warning. When you say "replaced the bulb, did you put your bulbs in the other car
Title: Re: Brake lights not working
Post by: RobG on 29 May 2010, 00:40:07
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not sure what the high level brake light is, i took some bulbs out of the other omega and put them in and they didn't light up when i hit the brake as before.

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Does the high level brake light work :question and is your info display giving a warning. When you say "replaced the bulb, did you put your bulbs in the other car
it`s in the centre at top of rear screen
Title: Re: Brake lights not working
Post by: RobG on 29 May 2010, 00:55:27
Have you tried a meter on the bulb holders to see if power is present when pedal is pressed :question
Title: Re: Brake lights not working
Post by: age_of_generals on 29 May 2010, 12:01:14
no high level light on mine and no power coming through when you press the brake.

Have startd to try and take the switch out, i feel like breaking the damn thing, been trying to get it out for ages now, with my neck twisted and body contorted to get under neath the steering wheel area.

pulled the cable off it but can't seem to remove the switch.

Title: Re: Brake lights not working
Post by: RobG on 29 May 2010, 12:48:28
Have a read through this, explains how the switch is removed
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1218634381
Title: Re: Brake lights not working
Post by: Skint on 30 May 2010, 17:57:40
Do you have a tow hitch fitted, I had a problem with my lights (don't remember which ones) being disabled by a tiny bit of plastic in the hitch connection sticking in (or failing to return out) this small piece of plastic is there to turn lights off when towing so that you are not dazzled by reflection from the front of what you are towing. I just removed this small cylindrical piece of plastic from the hitch connection as I rarely tow. I had tried to lube it and free it to no avail, if you wish to keep it you need a new hitch connection.
Title: Re: Brake lights not working
Post by: age_of_generals on 30 May 2010, 18:34:09
thanks RobG, for that link, my switch looks a bit different, more like the land rover switch. not sure how to upload a pic of it.

damn thing is driving me crazy.

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Have a read through this, explains how the switch is removed
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1218634381
Title: Re: Brake lights not working
Post by: age_of_generals on 30 May 2010, 18:34:58
not tried this, will go and have  a look, but then surely it would disable all the lights on the rear? no? not just the brake?

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Do you have a tow hitch fitted, I had a problem with my lights (don't remember which ones) being disabled by a tiny bit of plastic in the hitch connection sticking in (or failing to return out) this small piece of plastic is there to turn lights off when towing so that you are not dazzled by reflection from the front of what you are towing. I just removed this small cylindrical piece of plastic from the hitch connection as I rarely tow. I had tried to lube it and free it to no avail, if you wish to keep it you need a new hitch connection.
Title: Re: Brake lights not working
Post by: Skint on 30 May 2010, 18:59:54
Just chatting with my father who fitted it originally he said it definitely was not all the lights but thinks it may have only been the fog (most likely) or reversing lights.
So maybe I am barking up the wrong tree here!
Title: Re: Brake lights not working
Post by: tidla on 30 May 2010, 19:08:11
keep it simple and methodical..

4 page thread comin up ::)