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Title: TYRE WEAR - SQUEELING
Post by: idwal on 13 June 2010, 17:00:22

I had the tracking done on my MV6 as front
tyres worn on inside so change front pair and had
tracking done at same time.

wheels are facelift 245/45/17

Every since the front tyres squeel - I had kwik fit check
tracking again and said maybe a degree out on front
but nothing to worry abount

Checked the tyres after going into town and all I can
say is the both tyres ok on outside and seem to be
wearing on inside - I say about 15/20 degrees from outside edge to inside - hense the squeeling

Is this just tracking or could it be something else?

thanks
ken
Title: Re: TYRE WEAR - SQUEELING
Post by: manny on 13 June 2010, 17:01:49
Wishbones are goosed.
Title: Re: TYRE WEAR - SQUEELING
Post by: idwal on 13 June 2010, 17:03:23
is that an exspensive job?

thanks
ken
Title: Re: TYRE WEAR - SQUEELING
Post by: manny on 13 June 2010, 17:09:01
They are about £60 a side from all german parts. My MV6 had the exact problem with it wearing inside edge of tyre. As you brake wheels want to push back which makes tyre run on inside edge,
Title: Re: TYRE WEAR - SQUEELING
Post by: manny on 13 June 2010, 17:19:39
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They are about £60 a side from all german parts. My MV6 had the exact problem with it wearing inside edge of tyre. As you brake wheels want to push back which makes tyre run on inside edge,
Just to add, dont buy cheap ones as they dont last.
Title: Re: TYRE WEAR - SQUEELING
Post by: idwal on 13 June 2010, 17:21:16
Have seen some on ebay (300350512040)
is this a fair price or where should I go for
decent parts

thanks
ken
Title: Re: TYRE WEAR - SQUEELING
Post by: manny on 13 June 2010, 19:16:28
Vauxhall car parts do them for £25 a side. Dont know what the quality is like. Maybe someone will can give an opinion on them?
Title: Re: TYRE WEAR - SQUEELING
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 13 June 2010, 19:24:21
I would not be condeming the wishbones until you have checked them but, tracking will not have caused the tyre wear, camber will have.....and as you have not had this corrected then they will wear again
Title: Re: TYRE WEAR - SQUEELING
Post by: manny on 13 June 2010, 19:33:58
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Have seen some on ebay (300350512040)
is this a fair price or where should I go for
decent parts

thanks
ken
The wishbones you have seen come with drop links. Now i dont know what the quality is like but if you do buy new wishbones get the drop links also as they are cheap enough. The reason i say this is when i done mine the drop links were a pig to get of as threads were bad. That is if it does turn out to be the wishbones? :y
Title: Re: TYRE WEAR - SQUEELING
Post by: idwal on 13 June 2010, 19:37:36
I have very little mechanical knowledge but it is funny
that this happened only after I had tracking done.
could it be possible that they did not tighten everything up
after tracking done - as fault only occured after tracking was done.

ken
Title: Re: TYRE WEAR - SQUEELING
Post by: manny on 13 June 2010, 19:48:24
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I have very little mechanical knowledge but it is funny
that this happened only after I had tracking done.
could it be possible that they did not tighten everything up
after tracking done - as fault only occured after tracking was done.

ken
The only thing i can suggest is to get a second opinion on the tracking. Or take it back and get it checked again by the garage who done it.
Title: Re: TYRE WEAR - SQUEELING
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 13 June 2010, 19:49:24
CAMBER!
Title: Re: TYRE WEAR - SQUEELING
Post by: sjc on 13 June 2010, 19:51:01
As Mark has said could be the camber that's out, but could also be the wishbones.  Any MOT station should be able to check the wishbones for you.

The equipment that Kwik-Fit and the like use for tracking will not give an accurate setting.  Even the gear that VX dealers use is useless - I could tell you a long story but it makes me too angry!

Go somewhere that does full 4 wheel alignment using Hunter gear, for example.  Don't be fooled by claims of "4 wheel laser alignment"... go to a specialist, it'll cost you a lot less than another pair of tyres!

My local place charges £35 + VAT to check front camber, rear camber, front tracking, rear tracking, thrust-line and probably more that I can't remember.  You get a printout before and after adjustment and they charge £25 per hour for making the necessary adjustments.

Obviously, replace any faulty parts BEFORE getting the alignment done.
Title: Re: TYRE WEAR - SQUEELING
Post by: manny on 13 June 2010, 19:54:59
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CAMBER!
No need to shout i hear what your saying. Idwal said he only got the problem after he had the tracking done that it why i told him to take it back.
Title: Re: TYRE WEAR - SQUEELING
Post by: sjc on 13 June 2010, 19:57:32
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CAMBER!
No need to shout i hear what your saying. Idwal said he only got the problem after he had the tracking done that it why i told him to take it back.

But he took for tracking because the tyres were scrubbed.  Camber being out causes scrubbing.
Title: Re: TYRE WEAR - SQUEELING
Post by: Martin_1962 on 13 June 2010, 20:00:48
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I had the tracking done on my MV6 as front
tyres worn on inside so change front pair and had
tracking done at same time.

wheels are facelift 245/45/17

Every since the front tyres squeel - I had kwik fit check
tracking again and said maybe a degree out on front
but nothing to worry abount

Checked the tyres after going into town and all I can
say is the both tyres ok on outside and seem to be
wearing on inside - I say about 15/20 degrees from outside edge to inside - hense the squeeling

Is this just tracking or could it be something else?

thanks
ken


There is your problem

You need to get the car set up at Wheels in Motion
Title: Re: TYRE WEAR - SQUEELING
Post by: sjc on 13 June 2010, 20:05:50
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You need to get the car set up at Wheels in Motion

(they use Hunter equipment so it must be good)
Title: Re: TYRE WEAR - SQUEELING
Post by: Martin_1962 on 13 June 2010, 20:22:19
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You need to get the car set up at Wheels in Motion

(they use Hunter equipment so it must be good)


They are just the best alignment specialists in the UK
Title: Re: TYRE WEAR - SQUEELING
Post by: magspec on 13 June 2010, 20:51:10
Took mine to WIM, Exellent job. Highly reecommended. Would not take a push bike to Kwik Fit. :y
Title: Re: TYRE WEAR - SQUEELING
Post by: pedroMV6 on 13 June 2010, 21:53:24
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Vauxhall car parts do them for £25 a side. Dont know what the quality is like. Maybe someone will can give an opinion on them?

Quote from their ad:
"This is a new Vauxhall Part. VAUXHALL OMEGA DRIVERS SIDE FRONT SUSPENSION ARM"
IIRC, all genuine GM parts have the GM stamp on them, or in a GM bag :y
Title: Re: TYRE WEAR - SQUEELING
Post by: manny on 13 June 2010, 22:18:40
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Vauxhall car parts do them for £25 a side. Dont know what the quality is like. Maybe someone will can give an opinion on them?

Quote from their ad:
"This is a new Vauxhall Part. VAUXHALL OMEGA DRIVERS SIDE FRONT SUSPENSION ARM"
IIRC, all genuine GM parts have the GM stamp on them, or in a GM bag :y
Yes it just says vx part, not genuine vx part. Are any of these cheap wishbones any good or are they all poor quality.You can buy pattern parts that do the job ok so why are all wishbones for vauxhall getting a bad press?
Title: Re: TYRE WEAR - SQUEELING
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 13 June 2010, 22:59:26
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Wishbones are goosed.

and if kwik fit were any good they would have told you that before they tracked the car.
Title: Re: TYRE WEAR - SQUEELING
Post by: sjc on 14 June 2010, 08:12:58
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Wishbones are goosed.

and if kwik fit were any good they would have told you that before they tracked the car.
I wouldn't trust them to change a pram tyre.

I had terrible steering vibration that came on suddenly so I thought a balance weight must have came off.  Was going away so needed it done quickly and KF was the only place open.  Told them I wanted the front wheels balanced and that I wanted them to check the wheels (MV6 Irmscher "putty" wheels).  Got it back and it was no different so I took the wheels off to check them myself.  BOTH FRONT TYRES HAD BIG EGGS STICKING OUT OF THE INNER WALLS AND THEY NEVER NOTICED !!!

MUPPETS!
Title: Re: TYRE WEAR - SQUEELING
Post by: Kevin Wood on 14 June 2010, 11:17:27
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I had the tracking done on my MV6 as front
tyres worn on inside so change front pair and had
tracking done at same time.

wheels are facelift 245/45/17

Every since the front tyres squeel - I had kwik fit check
tracking again and said maybe a degree out on front
but nothing to worry abount

Checked the tyres after going into town and all I can
say is the both tyres ok on outside and seem to be
wearing on inside - I say about 15/20 degrees from outside edge to inside - hense the squeeling

Is this just tracking or could it be something else?

thanks
ken


There is your problem

You need to get the car set up at Wheels in Motion

FFS! Only a degree out! PMSL. ;D

It would be eating tyres like nobody's business if the toe was a degree out.

But agreed. The issue here is probably Camber and the wishbone bushes should be checked while you're at it. Go to Wheels In Motion or one of their partners and it should be done properly. :y

Thick Fit specialise in finding work for themselves that's unnecessary whilst missing the obvious problems, as stated. >:(

Kevin