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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: PMW on 05 March 2007, 08:38:45
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2002 V6 cdx auto. I have a leak from what I thought was a heater hose behind engine. My local garage think it's a valve and say it's a big job. After 5 days they still have not come up with a price, stating waiting to hear from Vauxhall dealer.. They guess £100-£150 for part and 4 hours labour. (Remove wiper mechanism etc) Am only able to do 2-3 miles before warning shows and don't like using it but like walking less!. Any one familliar with this job.
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2002 V6 cdx auto. I have a leak from what I thought was a heater hose behind engine. My local garage think it's a valve and say it's a big job. After 5 days they still have not come up with a price, stating waiting to hear from Vauxhall dealer.. They guess £100-£150 for part and 4 hours labour. (Remove wiper mechanism etc) Am only able to do 2-3 miles before warning shows and don't like using it but like walking less!. Any one familliar with this job.
HBV is £25 from dealer, and you can change it yourself - wipers and scuttle off should give you sufficient access.
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HBV is £25 from dealer, and you can change it yourself - wipers and scuttle off should give you sufficient access.
Plus the price of a box of plasters!! ::)
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the hbv is around £25 plus vat from a main dealer. it is a job that you can do yourself. a little advice though. be careful undoing any nuts. make sure you dont sheer the off or you'll be in trouble. taking of tyhe scuttle panel is a fidlly job and there are plastic srcrews under the window rubber that need turing to allow the panel to come out. the hbv is just about acessable once the panel has been removed. its just a vcase of swapping the pipes in the correct way onto the new valve. after you have put the new valve on run the engine to see if the pipes get hot. do this before you put the panel and wipers back because any problems and its all got to come of again. you should be able to do this job in around and hour and a half therfore saving you a few quid to go out and get drunk with instead
good luck and be patient when removing the nuts and screws
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Plus the price of a box of plasters!! ::)
... and donations to the swear box
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honestly mate the hbv.is relatively easy,once the wipers,scuttle are off its not to bad,obviousley having the right tool for the clips!!! would help immensley,im not a mechanic in the slightest and even i did it in just under 2 hours..!!!
dont forget though,lots of swearing at it(particulary the clips) and ditto the box of plasters... ;)
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I did this job last weekend. £25+VAT for the valve. £14 for the tool to get the clips off (Halfrauds). Two hours to get the wipers off. The rest is easy but fiddly. Take the scuttle off - 7 screws hidden under window rubber, one on the drivers side inner wing.
HBV is difficult to get to... got my better half to help out here - she has smaller hands!
Oh and the comment about the plasters...hmmm well you'll find out! :'(
Good luck!
Dave
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I don't know what all the fuss is about.
HBV is an easy job, just a tiny (and I mean tiny) bit fiddly. Scuttle being off is extremely helpful for access, although I have done this job without.
Only tool I used was a pair of plumbing grips.. any decent pair of pliers should get the clips off.. or a little pair of mole grips
Don't trust that garage, they clearly don't know what they're talking about.
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2002 V6 cdx auto. I have a leak from what I thought was a heater hose behind engine. My local garage think it's a valve and say it's a big job. After 5 days they still have not come up with a price, stating waiting to hear from Vauxhall dealer.. They guess £100-£150 for part and 4 hours labour. (Remove wiper mechanism etc) Am only able to do 2-3 miles before warning shows and don't like using it but like walking less!. Any one familliar with this job.
If your not confident to do the job yourself, try asautocare he is a VX specialist only in widnes (2 mins of runcorn bridge) I would personaly reccomend him and he does a special offer for software updates for OOF members, see my other thread 8-)
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4 hours labour, theyre havin a laugh mate. According to Vaux its a 0.9 hour job so even at their extortionate rates about £80. When mine needed changing my 13 year old son did it for me and he managed it in much less than four hours.
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2002 V6 cdx auto. I have a leak from what I thought was a heater hose behind engine. My local garage think it's a valve and say it's a big job. After 5 days they still have not come up with a price, stating waiting to hear from Vauxhall dealer.. They guess £100-£150 for part and 4 hours labour. (Remove wiper mechanism etc) Am only able to do 2-3 miles before warning shows and don't like using it but like walking less!. Any one familliar with this job.
Doh! Just noticed where you live! You'll be lucky if you hear from Vantage - it takes 'em all their time to answer the bloody phone.
Bring it to my house! Off 'Brangy Rd' ;)
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HEATER BYPASS VALVE: Sundy 11th March. Having been quoted ridiculous prices by various garages, forum member Andy B has just replaced mine (Total stranger, as a favour). Took one hour. Very grateful. Nice chap with understanding wife!
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I don't know what all the fuss is about.
HBV is an easy job, just a tiny (and I mean tiny) bit fiddly. Scuttle being off is extremely helpful for access, although I have done this job without.
Only tool I used was a pair of plumbing grips.. any decent pair of pliers should get the clips off.. or a little pair of mole grips
Don't trust that garage, they clearly don't know what they're talking about.
I totally agree with you. I fixed this problem, 2 month ago, but in my case almost all cooling agent was lost.
Also, local dealers encountered problems with this GM part code (something changed in GM code catalog during time). My spare HBV arrived from Germany in 5 days and it cost around 80 euro.
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nice one Andy B top banana :y
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I notice you said wiper mechanism, it's only the wiper arms and blades that need to come off, a 5 minute job at worst, so i'd be asking them about that.
All they want to do is try and justify their labour times by removing bits that don't need removed. >:(
Give it a go yourself, you'll be surprised how easy it is. :y
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Here, here, do it yourslelf, did mine in 30 mins without scuttle off, a good set of clip pliers or totty mole grips make it megga easy..
DC
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I notice you said wiper mechanism, it's only the wiper arms and blades that need to come off, a 5 minute job at worst, so i'd be asking them about that.
All they want to do is try and justify their labour times by removing bits that don't need removed. >:(
Give it a go yourself, you'll be surprised how easy it is. :y
For the amount of access it gives by removing the mecanism and the 5 mins it takes to remove it, it's silly to leave it in place.
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hi i hae a simlier leak on my 52 diesel but the picture web shows near the wiper area mine is near the front of the car is it the same item, also i am new to the northampton are any where cheap to pick up the spare parts
thanks
pete
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For the cost of a £20 membership to autobahnstormers.com you can get trade club price from most Vx dealers
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PMW Lancashire, you have just found out why they are called VAUXHALL STEALERS.
People on this site can & will help you :y :y
regards
richard
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Guys, are you absolutely sure. Forgive me for asking as I have little or no knowledge about these matters but my 'old style' 1999 3.0L Elite has the same problem. My main dealer is usually very helpful but they say that they would struggle to replace it in under 3 hours. Are the old style Omegas more difficult to fix?
Many thanks
Greg
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Guys, are you absolutely sure. Forgive me for asking as I have little or no knowledge about these matters but my 'old style' 1999 3.0L Elite has the same problem. My main dealer is usually very helpful but they say that they would struggle to replace it in under 3 hours. Are the old style Omegas more difficult to fix?
Many thanks
Greg
Greg,
They're all pretty much the same. There's an exceptionally well-written guide by a handsome man (ahem) here - http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1193594464
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Many thanks.
Greg
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As in another post and without teaching you guys.
My son in law has just changed the HBV in 30 minutes,he had the proper tool for the clips,we jacked the car up and worked from underneath.
While he held the clips I squeezed the tool(no comments please!!).
Filled up with coolant,started up,ran up to temp, switched off no more leak,happy days,not a plaster in sight,left running for 30 minutes temp and fan kicked in at 90,well pleased.
So if any one reads this,easier to work from below,instead of removing all the wipers etc.
All done for £38 from main Vauxhall dealer (rip off merchants)
Now the locks dont work on the key!!see other post.
Cheers guys for all of the advice,excellant forum.
Paul.
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http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1277584184
tool picccy and wiper mech if you decide to remove.
pretty certain you cannot do it from underneath on a v6.. :y
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Yes totally different job on the 4 pots. and easiest from underneath :y
I dont remove anything to do a V6 HBV, can squeeze round and do it with a bit of practise, there is quite a bit of range on the hoses.
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Jimbob can you do something about all this dust in here? ;D
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Jimbob can you do something about all this dust in here? ;D
;D ;D ;D Well spotted Captain ;D ;D :y
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;D ;D ;D
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(http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/1517/heavydutyyellowduster.jpg)
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So if any one reads this,easier to work from below
True for 4-pot not so for V6 pal.
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I dont remove anything to do a V6 HBV
You obviously dont have hands like mine then?! I need the plenum off to do a HBV and I cant even get my diggers into the pollen filter drain area without taking off a lot of skin :-[
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Hi i am disable with only use of my right arm found it difficult but i did my HBV dont let garage do the job i took advice of the lads on this sight the part cost me £32 found it hard pulling of hoses so used the wifes hair dryer made it so much easy have a go :y :y
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Hi i am disable with only use of my right arm found it difficult but i did my HBV dont let garage do the job i took advice of the lads on this sight the part cost me £32 found it hard pulling of hoses so used the wifes hair dryer made it so much easy have a go :y :y
I've got two very slender arms and hands and i find it difficult, hats off to you, very impressive, well done! :y
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Just changed my HBV in about an hour having plucked up the courage after reading these posts. Thanks a lot everyone.
Thought it worth mentioning for those fellow novices out there that you can get hold of the valve and pull it out from the back of the engine with the hoses still attached making it easier to disconnect them. I had visions of having to get in with a socket or spanner thinking that it must be bolted to something, but it is more or less just free standing.
Thanks again