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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: Simon72 on 14 July 2010, 21:55:34
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I am in need of some tyres by end of week.
I can't quite stretch to Pirrelli or Mich's
So what do people think of either:-
Falken FK-452 or Falken Ziex ZE-912
I can get these fitted for £74.50 per corner.
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I've had FK452's on the front for 9000 miles .. no problems to report. just taken off some Avons from the back .. which I would never use again .. and put 452's on as well. Ride is a little firmer but handling has been just as good.
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I have to say that i find the handling quite poor on omegas with anything other than quality tyres on the rears. I understand where you are coming from though with the costs!
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I have to say that i find the handling quite poor on omegas with anything other than quality tyres on the rears. I understand where you are coming from though with the costs!
Yes price is a concern, especially when Pirr and Mich come in at approx £120 per corner
But I just dont have the budget for 4 tyres at that price, but if I get some Falkens then it is approx a £182 saving for 4
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452's at £75 a corner is a good price .... despite much "shoppng around" in the swindon area baet I got was £97 each for two total including all the crappy extras .. which should IMHO .. be standard
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Yes it comes as a shock when you need four. Given your location, have you thought about changing your alloys? You may be perfectly happy with the originals, but if you wanted something different, now is the time, you would probably find some with decent rubber on too.
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So long as you don't buy Wan Li tyres, had two on the back of mine when I bought it, and they were dangerous, the sidewalls moved, making car unstable at any speed over 40, they had NO grip, wet or dry. I removed them after 600 miles and flogged them on ebay. My choice would be Michelins, Dunlops are OK. I can't say what Falkens would be like on an Omega, but on a BMW 535 I used to own they didn't give me any problems.
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452 aren't too bad, quiet, grip meats the price paid, so not great if you like to crack on. You may find an increase in bump steer, tram-lining and general unexplained wandering though.
912 poor grip level, as they are more durable, and appalling stability IMO. Avoid.
Tbh falkens not rearly suited the the omega, kumho ku31 may be a wiser choice in that price range, not tried them myself though.
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Firestone Firehawk SZ80's. I know I keep banging on about them, but for the money (£80 a corner for my Omega) they are exceptionally good. Slightly noisier than the higher priced tyres but offer awesome grip wet or dry, and last a good 15k with plenty of fast road driving.
Not sure on your tyre size, so unsure if they'd be available.
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Its your choice but I have seriously tried the rest and the original Michelin Pilot Supremacy are by far and away the best choice. A tad expensive they may be but they give exceptional mileage, quiet ride, a comfortable ride and the road grip can be relied on. Given that their mileage is a long one and their other qualities which far exceed the rest makes them a good value for your money buy.
If you cannot afford them new try for part warn ones which you should get for around 30.00 each with a good 5 - 6mm tread on them, including fitting/balancing. But if you only get two put them on the back first.
Cheap tyres will give cheap results and performance otherwise the car manufacturers would fit, and mose importantly, recommend them. Up to you m8, I stick to what I know I can rely on.
bionic.
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Also bear in mind they need to be of the correct rating. I bought cheap tyres for the last omega and they lasted less than 10k miles but when I went to get them changed the tyre fitter pointed out that I had the wrong rated tyres on.
Worth checking as it was pointed out that apart from being dangerous it was also illegal so if I'd been pulled I'd have been in deep do do.
Chimpy
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Got 912's on the front, grip very well, approaching 30k since fitted, no issues! 452's on the rear much the same. I'd get them again :y
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I have 452's all round - nothing wrong with them, but coming from PZeros and Sport Contacts, it ain't the same.
Good enough to get me from A to B but not by choice.
I have a good tyre place near where I work.
He goes to Germany to get the tyres that have to be replaced after punctures....
(in Germany, if you have 1 puncture all 4 tyres have to be changed - he brings back the intact other 3. My difficulty is that he never seems to get my size.....
He usually charges £60 for a 19" tyre)
see if anyone near you does 'em! ::)
Matthew
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And what is everyones opinions of Kumho tyres??
OR HAVE I JUST SWORN :-(
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Not bad at all in my opinion. Had them on my BMW with no problems. Shorter life thats all.
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I fitted Kumho KU31 and have had no problems but only after 1000mls.
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Not bad at all in my opinion. Had them on my BMW with no problems. Shorter life thats all.
Oh right, well been quote (with a discount) £71.50 per Kumho tyre, so might try them and then give a feed back in a month or two
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Got 912's on the front, grip very well, approaching 30k since fitted, no issues! 452's on the rear much the same. I'd get them again :y
Is your seat set too far back or something? ;D ;)
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I love falken tyres - on my Golf and TVR but dont put them on an omega. I tried 452s, then 912s both gave me terrible tramlining and random handling - the car would just wander around and I had to keep correcting the steering.
Had it in to WIM several times for adjustment, new rear shocks, new wishbones, steering idler, steering box adjusted.
Then I changed to conti sc3's on the back and dunlops on the front and problem has been solved. Quieter and much more sure footed , especially in the wet.
I went for dunlops on the front as they were about £25 each cheaper than the contis. I think it was £97 each inc vat and shipping.
Falkens are great tyres but IME suit lighter cars as they have relatively soft sidewalls. For something as heavy as an omega you want stiffer sidewalls.
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Got 912's on the front, grip very well, approaching 30k since fitted, no issues! 452's on the rear much the same. I'd get them again :y
Is your seat set too far back or something? ;D ;)
He has only got a 4 pot ::) ::) :D :D
Just out of interest... You been in a car with Tunnie? He needed lots of encouragement when we were mapping the LPG :D :D
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Got 912's on the front, grip very well, approaching 30k since fitted, no issues! 452's on the rear much the same. I'd get them again :y
Is your seat set too far back or something? ;D ;)
He has only got a 4 pot ::) ::) :D :D
Just out of interest... You been in a car with Tunnie? He needed lots of encouragement when we were mapping the LPG :D :D
Pmsl ;D I can imagine, bless.
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Got 912's on the front, grip very well, approaching 30k since fitted, no issues! 452's on the rear much the same. I'd get them again :y
Is your seat set too far back or something? ;D ;)
He has only got a 4 pot ::) ::) :D :D
Just out of interest... You been in a car with Tunnie? He needed lots of encouragement when we were mapping the LPG :D :D
Pmsl ;D I can imagine, bless.
Its a 4 pot! Whats the point in reeving it? I makes more noise but the scenery does not go past any quicker.
As TB said, its more like an engine volume control ;D
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Got 912's on the front, grip very well, approaching 30k since fitted, no issues! 452's on the rear much the same. I'd get them again :y
Is your seat set too far back or something? ;D ;)
He has only got a 4 pot ::) ::) :D :D
Just out of interest... You been in a car with Tunnie? He needed lots of encouragement when we were mapping the LPG :D :D
Pmsl ;D I can imagine, bless.
Its a 4 pot! Whats the point in reeving it? I makes more noise but the scenery does not go past any quicker.
As TB said, its more like an engine volume control ;D
Didn't think the 2.0 was too bad tbh.
How long did your previous set of tyres last? Over 50k was it? :o
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My tyre advice is make sure they black and round and have at least 7-8mm of tread on em....Happy to help.... :y :y
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Got 912's on the front, grip very well, approaching 30k since fitted, no issues! 452's on the rear much the same. I'd get them again :y
Is your seat set too far back or something? ;D ;)
He has only got a 4 pot ::) ::) :D :D
Just out of interest... You been in a car with Tunnie? He needed lots of encouragement when we were mapping the LPG :D :D
Pmsl ;D I can imagine, bless.
Its a 4 pot! Whats the point in reeving it? I makes more noise but the scenery does not go past any quicker.
As TB said, its more like an engine volume control ;D
Didn't think the 2.0 was too bad tbh.
How long did your previous set of tyres last? Over 50k was it? :o
About 48k, and they were on the car when i bought it!
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Got 912's on the front, grip very well, approaching 30k since fitted, no issues! 452's on the rear much the same. I'd get them again :y
Is your seat set too far back or something? ;D ;)
He has only got a 4 pot ::) ::) :D :D
Just out of interest... You been in a car with Tunnie? He needed lots of encouragement when we were mapping the LPG :D :D
Pmsl ;D I can imagine, bless.
Its a 4 pot! Whats the point in reeving it? I makes more noise but the scenery does not go past any quicker.
As TB said, its more like an engine volume control ;D
Didn't think the 2.0 was too bad tbh.
How long did your previous set of tyres last? Over 50k was it? :o
About 48k, and they were on the car when i bought it!
How? I've had 7 tyres (due to a puncture needing premature replacement) on mine now (soon to be 8 ::)) in a little over 50k, and that's been getting the most out of them ::) ::)
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did whole mixture of driving on those, driving around M25 on a commute for a job, 15 mile commute to station for another job, uni runs, all sort. Never had a puncture in Omega ownership.... bet i will now! ;D
Combination of hard tyre, and lack of power ;D
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Also bear in mind they need to be of the correct rating. I bought cheap tyres for the last omega and they lasted less than 10k miles but when I went to get them changed the tyre fitter pointed out that I had the wrong rated tyres on.
Worth checking as it was pointed out that apart from being dangerous it was also illegal so if I'd been pulled I'd have been in deep do do.
Chimpy
Does this mean the 3.2 Omega only requires a 'V' rated tyre, yet the 3.0 requires a 'W' rated tyre?
149 and 151 mph Top Speed respectively.
:-/ :-/:-/
EDITED TO ADD: The 2.0 should be fine on Re-Moulds ;D ;D
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I tend to get approx a year from a set of 4 tyres, which is around 15k. But then I demand some level of grip.
Ones I would really avoid personally are any Michelin (no grip after about 3 months), any Avon (no grip and poor durability (managed 4k out of a set of rears)), and whatever junk chrisgixer had on his last year (I refused to drive his car again until he changed the tyres)
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I tend to get approx a year from a set of 4 tyres, which is around 15k. But then I demand some level of grip.
Ones I would really avoid personally are any Michelin (no grip after about 3 months), any Avon (no grip and poor durability (managed 4k out of a set of rears)), and whatever junk chrisgixer had on his last year (I refused to drive his car again until he changed the tyres)
.....and the winner of the worst tyre award is, q fanfare....... falkn 912, like driving on a water bed ;D
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I tend to get approx a year from a set of 4 tyres, which is around 15k. But then I demand some level of grip.
Ones I would really avoid personally are any Michelin (no grip after about 3 months), any Avon (no grip and poor durability (managed 4k out of a set of rears)), and whatever junk chrisgixer had on his last year (I refused to drive his car again until he changed the tyres)
.....and the winner of the worst tyre award is, q fanfare....... falkn 912, like driving on a water bed ;D
You should try the no-name rubbish the previous owner fitted to mine.. going round roundabouts makes you feel like you're in an American movie - no matter how slow you go*, they squeal like stuck pigs!
* OK, that's not strictly true.. you just don't have to be pushing very hard at all.
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I tend to get approx a year from a set of 4 tyres, which is around 15k. But then I demand some level of grip.
Ones I would really avoid personally are any Michelin (no grip after about 3 months), any Avon (no grip and poor durability (managed 4k out of a set of rears)), and whatever junk chrisgixer had on his last year (I refused to drive his car again until he changed the tyres)
.....and the winner of the worst tyre award is, q fanfare....... falkn 912, like driving on a water bed ;D
You should try the no-name rubbish the previous owner fitted to mine.. going round roundabouts makes you feel like you're in an American movie - no matter how slow you go*, they squeal like stuck pigs!
* OK, that's not strictly true.. you just don't have to be pushing very hard at all.
I get to drive a fair few Omegas - I am very fortunate in that way. OK, I know that day when I drove chrisgixers at Asheridge, its a fairly bumpy country road, but it was dry, warm, sunny day. I would say that car was dangerous. Very dangerous. No telling which way it was going to veer. Slapped my (very worn) Dunlop SP9000 (a tyre known to tramline badly when at the end of its life), and it was noticibly more stable.
That tyre is lethal on Omegas.
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I tend to get approx a year from a set of 4 tyres, which is around 15k. But then I demand some level of grip.
Ones I would really avoid personally are any Michelin (no grip after about 3 months), any Avon (no grip and poor durability (managed 4k out of a set of rears)), and whatever junk chrisgixer had on his last year (I refused to drive his car again until he changed the tyres)
.....and the winner of the worst tyre award is, q fanfare....... falkn 912, like driving on a water bed ;D
You should try the no-name rubbish the previous owner fitted to mine.. going round roundabouts makes you feel like you're in an American movie - no matter how slow you go*, they squeal like stuck pigs!
* OK, that's not strictly true.. you just don't have to be pushing very hard at all.
I get to drive a fair few Omegas - I am very fortunate in that way. OK, I know that day when I drove chrisgixers at Asheridge, its a fairly bumpy country road, but it was dry, warm, sunny day. I would say that car was dangerous. Very dangerous. No telling which way it was going to veer. Slapped my (very worn) Dunlop SP9000 (a tyre known to tramline badly when at the end of its life), and it was noticibly more stable.
That tyre is lethal on Omegas.
And when you drove it later at newent with sc3's fitted? Slightly more confident from where I was sitting :o ;D
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Best tyre I have used on an MV6 is the Toyo Proxes T-1R, no doubt.
Worst tyre.....Kumho. Scary.
Yokohama C-Drives are pretty good too and were my tyre of choice until I tried the Toyo. C-Drives have saved my life once.
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Best tyre I have used on an MV6 is the Toyo Proxes T-1R, no doubt.
Worst tyre.....Kumho. Scary.
Yokohama C-Drives are pretty good too and were my tyre of choice until I tried the Toyo. C-Drives have saved my life once.
Well got to disagree :-(
I have just had a set of
Kumho Ecsta KU37 XT 225/55/16 99WR Directionals
Went for the higher tyre load rating unlike the original 96 that were on the estate, and these cost £80 per corner fitted unlike the KU31 that were £10 cheaper.
Just done the same run that I do on a daily basis and have noticed no extra road noise AND there is NO tramlining anymore unlike the old Pirelli P7 that I had on.
So I will keep you posted on performance in the WET and DRY also tyre wear.
(http://koleso.topof.ru/files/kumho_ecsta-xt-ku37.jpg)