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Title: sump removal on V6
Post by: SeedyV6 on 18 August 2010, 16:15:32
sorry guys. i asked this question in the middle of my other post and shouldn't have!

When i remove the sump (so i can clean the oil pickup etc.) is there a gasket to re-use or replace or do I have to apply vx black sealant to the sump before offering it back up?

thanks,
wes.
Title: Re: sump removal on V6
Post by: Varche on 18 August 2010, 16:44:09
There is a gasket and from memory it is approx £26 from VX. I don't know if you can not fit one and just use some sealant.
Title: Re: sump removal on V6
Post by: Matchless on 18 August 2010, 16:48:38
Use the grey sealant as used on the oil cooler plate, degrease both faces with cellulose thinners first.

The joint is too thin for the black stuff to work / survive well.
Title: Re: sump removal on V6
Post by: SeedyV6 on 18 August 2010, 18:16:18
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Use the grey sealant as used on the oil cooler plate, degrease both faces with cellulose thinners first.

The joint is too thin for the black stuff to work / survive well.

Grey? I thought the guy behind the parts counter @ VX said he had Black or Green?!?

I must be going mutton  ;D Mind you i did explain that it was for the sump and he said black.......
Title: Re: sump removal on V6
Post by: Andy B on 18 August 2010, 18:32:57
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Use the grey sealant as used on the oil cooler plate, degrease both faces with cellulose thinners first.

The joint is too thin for the black stuff to work / survive well.

Grey? I thought the guy behind the parts counter @ VX said he had Black or Green?!?

I must be going mutton  ;D Mind you i did explain that it was for the sump and he said black.......

I was sold grey for mine, it comes in a tube like silcon / mastic does & goes in a skeleton gun.  :y
Title: Re: sump removal on V6
Post by: SeedyV6 on 18 August 2010, 18:34:07
i'll have to go back tomorrow and ask for grey then.

Thanks  :y
Title: Re: sump removal on V6
Post by: Darth Loo-knee on 18 August 2010, 19:31:20
Like already said it is the Grey Sealant  :y

I have removed my sump and casting from the bottom of the block as I had a leak there :o

Another thing is I am leaving it over night for the sealant to go off so I would recommend you do the same :y
Title: Re: sump removal on V6
Post by: andyc on 19 August 2010, 12:43:06
Upto engine number 08300418 there are two gaskets on the sump assy.
The alloy section that bolts to the block has an Oring type gasket, 9128256 and the lower belly pan steel sump has a metal/rubber gasket, 90469379. Normaly these don't need sealant but if they do use the black RTV 90485251

From engine Number 08300419 the gaskest were deleted and you just use the grey sealant, 93165267

Cheers
Andy
Title: Re: sump removal on V6
Post by: SeedyV6 on 19 August 2010, 13:20:11
just got back from Vx at lunch. Man behind counter says mine is grey sealant only, so that's what i've bought.

Here hoping the weather holds for when i get home after work!
Title: Re: sump removal on V6
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 19 August 2010, 13:38:31
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Upto engine number 08300418 there are two gaskets on the sump assy.
The alloy section that bolts to the block has an Oring type gasket, 9128256 and the lower belly pan steel sump has a metal/rubber gasket, 90469379. Normaly these don't need sealant but if they do use the black RTV 90485251

From engine Number 08300419 the gaskest were deleted and you just use the grey sealant, 93165267

Cheers
Andy

Andy

There is a bulletin in TIS which states when repairing to bin the rubber seal (upper sump to block) and just use sealent as per the later engine types.
Title: Re: sump removal on V6
Post by: andyc on 19 August 2010, 13:58:06
Could do but the early upper sump has the grove for the gaskets to fin into where as the later one doesn't
so you'll need alot of sealant.

There is an  engine number change on both parts of the sump and with the lower sump it does say if your replacing the pan to use the later type with the grey sealant, if its the early one and your just replacing then you can still buy/use the gasket

Now this is all according to EPC so TIS could be telling you something completely different, which isn't unheard of.

i would say that the parts guys can only go by there EPC and as long as they know what they are reading??? you shouldn't have a problem. Normaly if there is a Tech Bulletin then EPC will have a note of it to refer to but in this case there isn't

Cheers
Andy
Title: Re: sump removal on V6
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 19 August 2010, 14:57:07
If I get five mins then I will post up the info Andy.

It says not to fill the groove but run a bead around it.  :y
Title: Re: sump removal on V6
Post by: andyc on 19 August 2010, 15:38:52
ok i'll has a dig round as well

Andy