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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: alcutler on 14 September 2010, 13:28:09
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Hi Have a 98 Omega 2.0 estate which leaves the parking lights on down one side of the car if I leave the indicator lever in the right or left turn posistion and switch off the ignition. Can I disable this Appreciate this has no doubt been asked before but can't find it on the Forum
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Yep, easily... return the indicator stalk to the "Neutral" position ;) ;)
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..... Can I disable this ....
just don't leave the indicator on ::)
Being serious though, I can't see why you'd want to disable it, I've had a Cortina, Senators for years & this Omega that all have done the same & have never had a problem. Admittedly, apparently facelift cars have the park light tied into the lights-on-buzzer.
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Thanks for your replies - the reason [pretty obvious I would have thought] I would like to disable it is because its possible to leave the lights on and drain the battery What is the point of them anyway - to be legal you need the lights on both sides of the vehicle
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Thanks for your replies - the reason [pretty obvious I would have thought] I would like to disable it is because its possible to leave the lights on and drain the battery What is the point of them anyway - to be legal you need the lights on both sides of the vehicle
I thought it was pretty obvious that the easiest thing to do was cancel the indicator as you got out of the car, or glance back at your car as you leave it ....
Other makers have parking lights, Citroen dom but slightly differently. How long are you going to leave your car that two 5 watt lamps are going to flatten your battery? Parking lights on a NSL road only require one on the offside - assuming parked facing the correct direction.
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You could disable them by disconnecting the black wire to pin 3 ("P") of the indicator stalk.
Obviously the loose end will need to be insulated.
Kevin
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Is it the 1st April ? Dude....You may be up for "dippiest question of the month" here...
I've been driving for 30 years now and never had a problem OR drained battery from leaving the stalk in the wrong place. Make sure its in the middle before you leave the vehicle.
Don't know a bloke yet who parks up and walks away without a casual glance back at the "motor".
I THINK the original thought was that if you park up briefly, for a short period of time, it allows you to leave the road side lights on for safety reasons.
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Quick back-of-an-envelope scribbling suggests that the battery should be able to handle a couple of days with the parking lights on and still start OK. Unless it is already knaggered anyway. So shouldn't be a problem unless you are going on holiday.
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Thanks for your replies - the reason [pretty obvious I would have thought] I would like to disable it is because its possible to leave the lights on and drain the battery What is the point of them anyway - to be legal you need the lights on both sides of the vehicle
I must disagree with you there, car that have NOT got parking lights must use side-lights when parking in accordance to the Highway code rules listed below. BUT if your car is fitted with parking lights then these can be used.
The lights that MUST be on are the ones that are nearest to the centre of the roadway. (NOT kerbside ones)
Parking at night
[Laws CUR reg 101 & RVLR reg 24]
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All vehicles MUST display parking lights or sidelights when parked on a road or a lay-by on a road with a speed limit greater than 30 mph (48 km/h).
[Laws RVLR reg 24 & CUR reg 82(7)]
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Parking in fog. It is especially dangerous to park on the road in fog. If it is unavoidable, leave your parking lights or sidelights on.
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.....All vehicles MUST display parking lights or sidelights when parked on a road or a lay-by on a road with a speed limit greater than 30 mph (48 km/h).
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I was close ..... ;) ;) ;D
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Thanks for your replies - the reason [pretty obvious I would have thought] I would like to disable it is because its possible to leave the lights on and drain the battery What is the point of them anyway - to be legal you need the lights on both sides of the vehicle
I think you'll find that under The Road Vehicles Lighting Regulations 1989 on any road other than a 30 mph restricted area,you need to be facing the right direction and have lights on both sides of the vehicle.
I suppose in a perfect world you could always turn the indicator off - but who can honestly say they have done so every time. Same with your lights - if you leave them on you get a warning as soon as you remove the key - whats the point of that?
If you left 2 - 5 watt bulbs on while parking at the airport and then went on holiday for a week or two - you'd come back to a flat battery!
I appreciate a host of cars have this system fitted but I think you will find it is to accomodate foreign parking regulations which differ from ours - obviously a leftover from Opel that Vauxhall never bothered to address.
I posted this message to find out if it could be disabled - and hopefully find someone with the knowledge how to do it - I wasn't expecting everyone to follow suite.
I thought it was pretty obvious that the easiest thing to do was cancel the indicator as you got out of the car, or glance back at your car as you leave it ....
Other makers have parking lights, Citroen dom but slightly differently. How long are you going to leave your car that two 5 watt lamps are going to flatten your battery? Parking lights on a NSL road only require one on the offside - assuming parked facing the correct direction.
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.....All vehicles MUST display parking lights or sidelights when parked on a road or a lay-by on a road with a speed limit greater than 30 mph (48 km/h).
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Yea pretty close ..........................
I was close ..... ;) ;) ;D
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You could disable them by disconnecting the black wire to pin 3 ("P") of the indicator stalk.
Obviously the loose end will need to be insulated.
Kevin
Thanks Kevin I'll try that - much appreciated
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Just to make you aware if you are not electrically minded.
If for example you drive a pre facelift diesel omega then it will be fitted with a 72 AMP / HOUR Battery as standard.
So
2 x 5watts = 10watts
10watts divided by 12volts = 0.84amps
72 amp/hr divided by 0.84 = 85.7 Hours of use out of battery.
For Facelift Diesel= 82 A/h battery GIVING= 97.6 HOURS
For All PETROLS= 45 A/h battery GIVING = 53.2 HOURS
But you must take into account Temperature outside / Age of battery, and will you be able to still start it after half the time.
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Why do some people feel it necessary to patronise Posters like this who only want an answer to a simple question? I am sure that he is already well aware that placing the turn stalk to neutral will switch the parking lights off. :(
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Why do some people feel it necessary to patronise Posters like this who only want an answer to a simple question? I am sure that he is already well aware that placing the turn stalk to neutral will switch the parking lights off. :(
I have to agree, especially considering the OP is a relatively new member and may not understand the 'humour' of more veteran members.
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Why do some people feel it necessary to patronise Posters like this who only want an answer to a simple question? I am sure that he is already well aware that placing the turn stalk to neutral will switch the parking lights off. :(
I have to agree, especially considering the OP is a relatively new member and may not understand the 'humour' of more veteran members.
Agreed, and as someone who indicates and turns into their driveway without an opportunity for the indicators to cancel my parking lights would be on every night if it weren't for the warning buzzer (which, thinking about it, isn't currently plugged in ::)).
They are useful when parking at night, though. I always use them when parking by the roadside after dark, and they will easily last overnight without noticeably depleting the battery.
Kevin
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Why do some people feel it necessary to patronise Posters like this who only want an answer to a simple question? I am sure that he is already well aware that placing the turn stalk to neutral will switch the parking lights off. :(
I wasn't trying to be patronising. Why is it that some people want to fix something that doesn't need fixing?
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If for example you drive a pre facelift diesel omega then it will be fitted with a 72 AMP / HOUR Battery as standard.
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For Facelift Diesel= 82 A/h battery GIVING= 97.6 HOURS
For All PETROLS= 45 A/h battery GIVING = 53.2 HOURS
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A bit more than 45 amps for the petrol cars Simon ;) ;) :y
Omega Part Number Retail Price Normal Trade Trade Club
Batteries
70 amp/hr (OE) 9201470 £83.00 £75.95 £58.46
2.0TD/2.2TD - 70 amp/hr 93189922 £64.50 £59.02 £52.09
2.5 V6 - 70 amp/hr 93189922 £64.50 £59.02 £52.09
3.0 V6 - 70 amp/hr 93189922 £64.50 £59.02 £52.09
2.6 V6 - 65 amp/hr 93189923 £64.50 £59.02 £48.23
3.2 V6 - 85 amp/hr (GM85-T7) 93197903 £97.50 £87.75 £69.13
2.5TD - 85 amp/hr (GM85-T7) 93197903 £97.50 £87.75 £69.13
2.0/2.2 - 60 amp/hr 93197905 £48.70 £43.83 £40.05
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Is it the 1st April ? Dude....You may be up for "dippiest question of the month" here...
I've been driving for 30 years now and never had a problem OR drained battery from leaving the stalk in the wrong place. Make sure its in the middle before you leave the vehicle.
Don't know a bloke yet who parks up and walks away without a casual glance back at the "motor".
I THINK the original thought was that if you park up briefly, for a short period of time, it allows you to leave the road side lights on for safety reasons.
WOW driving for 30 years - and doesn't even know the date - really appreciate advice from this bloke !!!!
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Is it the 1st April ? Dude....You may be up for "dippiest question of the month" here...
I've been driving for 30 years now and never had a problem OR drained battery from leaving the stalk in the wrong place. Make sure its in the middle before you leave the vehicle.
Don't know a bloke yet who parks up and walks away without a casual glance back at the "motor".
I THINK the original thought was that if you park up briefly, for a short period of time, it allows you to leave the road side lights on for safety reasons.
WOW driving for 30 years - and doesn't even know the date - really appreciate advice from this bloke !!!!
I appreciate you are annoyed by the silly comments that have been posted, but don't bother biting. It really isn't worth stooping to that level. :y
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OK, I think the question has already been answered. I am just curious as to how easy it would be to retro-fit a warning buzzer, as fitted to some late Facelifts apparently. I would be interested if it were simple, and it would certainly solve the OP problem.
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They are useful when parking at night, though. I always use them when parking by the roadside after dark, and they will easily last overnight without noticeably depleting the battery.
That definitely wasn't true of the sidelights on the (brand new!) Seat hire car I had in the Czech Republic .. ahh, the fun of trying to explain to a random policeman that you need a jump start when neither of you speak a common language ;D </random>
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Is it the 1st April ? Dude....You may be up for "dippiest question of the month" here...
I've been driving for 30 years now and never had a problem OR drained battery from leaving the stalk in the wrong place. Make sure its in the middle before you leave the vehicle.
Don't know a bloke yet who parks up and walks away without a casual glance back at the "motor".
I THINK the original thought was that if you park up briefly, for a short period of time, it allows you to leave the road side lights on for safety reasons.
WOW driving for 30 years - and doesn't even know the date - really appreciate advice from this bloke !!!!
I appreciate you are annoyed by the silly comments that have been posted, but don't bother biting. It really isn't worth stooping to that level. :y
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Yes Thanks for that advice - appreciated - I've managed to disable them now - so sorted Cheers
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OK, I think the question has already been answered. I am just curious as to how easy it would be to retro-fit a warning buzzer, as fitted to some late Facelifts apparently. I would be interested if it were simple, and it would certainly solve the OP problem.
Buzzer had me worried the other day, opened the door to get out and it took me a good few minutes to work out why the buzzer was sounding when the lights where off and I had the keys in my hand...yes I'd left the indicator on. ::). Never use it tbh, although probably should.