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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: markfree on 07 April 2010, 17:23:07
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Ordered 2 springs off a site on ebay - arrived today - one is 373mm in length, the other is 351mm :-/
Having never ever taken a spring off before I'm guessing that they should be the same length - so what length should they be?
Any help/answers would be appreciated :y
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Thats odd....are they new?
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send em back, (unless you know someone big to sit in and level it out!) ;D
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Thats odd....are they new?
Yep :y
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send em back, (unless you know someone big to sit in and level it out!) ;D
Yep - the wife ;D - hope she doesn't read this else I'm dead meat ;D
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So - anybody know the correct height of a front spring ::)
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According to the guy who sold me these springs they are "HANDED" which means, for my car, one side is higher than the other - anybody know if this is true or not :y
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According to the guy who sold me these springs they are "HANDED" which means, for my car, one side is higher than the other - anybody know if this is true or not :y
False.....what is the make and part numbers
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According to the guy who sold me these springs they are "HANDED" which means, for my car, one side is higher than the other - anybody know if this is true or not :y
False.....what is the make and part numbers
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VAUXHALL-OMEGA-2-0-2-5-3-0-3-2-FRONT-COIL-SPRING_W0QQitemZ220574196541QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item335b3f233d
SMP LW0221 & LW0218 - thats whats printed on the boxes.
He could be right as I've checked other listings on ebay and they are selling them as RHS or LHS.
I suppose the only way of knowing is to whip the springs off and check the heights. :-/
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According to the guy who sold me these springs they are "HANDED" which means, for my car, one side is higher than the other - anybody know if this is true or not :y
False.....what is the make and part numbers
According to the guy who sold me these springs they are "HANDED" which means, for my car, one side is higher than the other - anybody know if this is true or not :y
False.....what is the make and part numbers
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VAUXHALL-OMEGA-2-0-2-5-3-0-3-2-FRONT-COIL-SPRING_W0QQitemZ220574196541QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item335b3f233d
SMP LW0221 & LW0218 - thats whats printed on the boxes.
He could be right as I've checked other listings on ebay and they are selling them as RHS or LHS.
I suppose the only way of knowing is to whip the springs off and check the heights. :-/
mmm the forums best tells you one thing .. yet you choose to believe an ebay seller ?? ... so why ask in the first place ??? :(
just my thoughts nowt else .. :)
BTW VX sell them as "sets" .. part nos vary depending on model and if aircon fitted !!
1X SPRING, FRONT (SET), RHD (EXC.AMBULANCE/ARMOURED BODY/HEARSE) (EXC.BAD ROAD PACKAGE) -V1999999 90509078 3 12 027 1
Note: EXCEPT AIR CONDITIONING
1X SPRING, FRONT (SET), RHD (EXC.AMBULANCE/ARMOURED BODY/HEARSE) (EXC.BAD ROAD PACKAGE) W1000001- 90541897 3 12 052 1
Note: EXCEPT AIR CONDITIONING
1X SPRING, FRONT (SET), RHD (NOT USED WITH INCREASED PAYLOAD) (EXC.AMBULANCE/ARMOURED BODY/HEARSE) (FOR BAD ROAD PACKAGE) -X1999999 90542489 3 12 059 1
Note: EXCEPT AIR CONDITIONING
1X SPRING, FRONT (SET), RHD (EXC.AMBULANCE/ARMOURED BODY/HEARSE) (EXC.BAD ROAD PACKAGE) -V1999999 90509080 3 12 029 1
Note: USED WITH AIR CONDITIONING
1X SPRING, FRONT (SET), RHD (EXC.AMBULANCE/ARMOURED BODY/HEARSE) (EXC.BAD ROAD PACKAGE) W1000001- 90541754 3 12 050 1
Note: USED WITH AIR CONDITIONING
1X SPRING, FRONT (SET), RHD (NOT USED WITH INCREASED PAYLOAD) (EXC.AMBULANCE/ARMOURED BODY/HEARSE) (FOR BAD ROAD PACKAGE) -X1999999 90542292 3 12 058 1
HTH
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According to the guy who sold me these springs they are "HANDED" which means, for my car, one side is higher than the other - anybody know if this is true or not :y
False.....what is the make and part numbers
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VAUXHALL-OMEGA-2-0-2-5-3-0-3-2-FRONT-COIL-SPRING_W0QQitemZ220574196541QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item335b3f233d
SMP LW0221 & LW0218 - thats whats printed on the boxes.
He could be right as I've checked other listings on ebay and they are selling them as RHS or LHS.
I suppose the only way of knowing is to whip the springs off and check the heights. :-/
Just made some checks......there appears to be a difference of opinion across suppliers.....some list 2 different part numbers for left and right (e.g. KYB)....others a single part number (e.g. Sachs Boge).
I am struggling with the idea that one is longer than the other in this case though and cant find any techncial evidence to sudgest what is the norm.
I do know that when ever I ahev removed springs or fitted say Irmscher ones that they have been the same length
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Cannot give free length value but both should be the same. If springs are described as handed means one is wound clockwise and and the other, anti clockwise. Rare, but not unheard of. Not on omega though, as far as I know.
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Thanks for the input guys - I'll be taking the springs off over the week-end which should tell me wether the springs are the right size altho one of the springs has a big chunk missing which may complicate matters.
The guy who sold me the springs says he's no problem with replacing them if they are the wrong size.
Anyway will update this thread next week sometime on how I get on :y
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get the seller to send you a copy ofthe manufacturers application catalogue. i've tried to find the SMP (which i think is the standard motor parts) catalogue to no avail. This will prove to you the parts are correct. I'd also check to see if there is a number stamped on the spring - no telling that what is in the box is the same as what the box says.
without that I would not even get my hands dirty taking the old ones off: they cannot be the correct part...
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Update
Finally got round to fitting the springs and the ebay guy was right - well sort of.
N/s (which was the broken side) was the shorter - fitted ok but the lower part of the spring loop was sllightly different.
O/s was longer but comparing what came off the car to the one I bought there was a slight difference in height but put that down to a tired spring.
I think what came off the car were the original springs as they were colour coded brown/brown.
So the springs are definitely "handed" as the guy said - hope this may help somebody but it may be different for a pre-facelift saloon :y
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hi well as you have fitted yours does the near side look lower as thats the 1 with the shorter spring, i really dont understand how there two different sizes
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Landrover leaf springs are handed to allow for the weight of the driver, as there is always a driver.
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Omega springs are the same both sides, they are wound the same way and are the same length, vx only sell them in pairs. Search trade club for a single spring and they don't sell them, not listed.
There is no reason why a v engine would need a longer spring on one side on a road car.
Measure the hight from ground to wheel arch on both sides. If different length springs fitted the measurement will be different one side. A lopsided car.
As said, springs are sold, and should be fitted in axle pairs, not axle odds. Bet the car pulls like a bugger.
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Omega springs are the same both sides, they are wound the same way and are the same length, vx only sell them in pairs. Search trade club for a single spring and they don't sell them, not listed.
There is no reason why a v engine would need a longer spring on one side on a road car.
Measure the hight from ground to wheel arch on both sides. If different length springs fitted the measurement will be different one side. A lopsided car.
As said, springs are sold, and should be fitted in axle pairs, not axle odds. Bet the car pulls like a bugger.
Absolutely definately correct Chris.
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All the Omega coils that I've changed have been done in axle pairs.
And all of 'em have had the same part numbers (per pair) too - confirmed by the Kilens now on Markseth's TD Estate.
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One reason that I've yet to source 'em from Ebay .....
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