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Title: Main Dealers not giving Trade Card discount?
Post by: V6 CDX-er on 23 October 2010, 11:06:50
hhhmmmm?

I've just spoken to my local main dealer who has informed me that as an individual, (as opposed to a registered company), I would not be eligiable for any discount even after I gave him my 6 digit Trade Card number.

Is this usual practice? 
Title: Re: Main Dealers not giving Trade Card discount?
Post by: Andy B on 23 October 2010, 11:36:38
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hhhmmmm?

I've just spoken to my local main dealer who has informed me that as an individual, (as opposed to a registered company), I would not be eligiable for any discount even after I gave him my 6 digit Trade Card number.

Is this usual practice? 

is this an Autobahnstormers card? If so I'd contact the club. If it's an individual account I'd contact Trade Club themselves. This is assuming that the dealer does participate in the scheme, not all do.  :y
Title: Re: Main Dealers not giving Trade Card discount?
Post by: CyNick on 23 October 2010, 11:42:26
I had this the other day.. I thought all vauxhall dealers would accept tc.. Not all do as I found out..

But to my surprise the Guy said "we don't participate in tc.. but no problem I'll give you trade price anyway"

Couldn't believe it - what a pleasant surprise!
Title: Re: Main Dealers not giving Trade Card discount?
Post by: V6 CDX-er on 23 October 2010, 12:05:02
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hhhmmmm?

I've just spoken to my local main dealer who has informed me that as an individual, (as opposed to a registered company), I would not be eligiable for any discount even after I gave him my 6 digit Trade Card number.

Is this usual practice? 

is this an Autobahnstormers card? If so I'd contact the club. If it's an individual account I'd contact Trade Club themselves. This is assuming that the dealer does participate in the scheme, not all do.  :y

It's the Autobahn Trade Card.

Two dealers close(ish) to me. One has just phoned back with prices that seem to be trade prices, (for most stuff), the other said no discount unless a proper garage / bodyshop. :(
Title: Re: Main Dealers not giving Trade Card discount?
Post by: tunnie on 23 October 2010, 12:22:16
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I had this the other day.. I thought all vauxhall dealers would accept tc.. Not all do as I found out..

But to my surprise the Guy said "we don't participate in tc.. but no problem I'll give you trade price anyway"

Couldn't believe it - what a pleasant surprise!

Trade price and trade club price are different, you usually get a little bit extra of with TC  :y



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hhhmmmm?

I've just spoken to my local main dealer who has informed me that as an individual, (as opposed to a registered company), I would not be eligiable for any discount even after I gave him my 6 digit Trade Card number.

Is this usual practice? 

is this an Autobahnstormers card? If so I'd contact the club. If it's an individual account I'd contact Trade Club themselves. This is assuming that the dealer does participate in the scheme, not all do.  :y

It's the Autobahn Trade Card.

Two dealers close(ish) to me. One has just phoned back with prices that seem to be trade prices, (for most stuff), the other said no discount unless a proper garage / bodyshop. :(

Garage just spinning you bull, Autobarnstormers are a recognised club with Vauxhall and should give you trade prices
Title: Re: Main Dealers not giving Trade Card discount?
Post by: Andy B on 23 October 2010, 12:34:06
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It's the Autobahn Trade Card.

Two dealers close(ish) to me. One has just phoned back with prices that seem to be trade prices, (for most stuff), the other said no discount unless a proper garage / bodyshop. :(

I'm not sure who you need to sort it for you these days, but Dave Waddington might be a good place to start http://www.autobahnstormers.org/, IIRC it was him that sorted it out for me years ago when ABS first got the Trade Club.
Title: Re: Main Dealers not giving Trade Card discount?
Post by: V6 CDX-er on 23 October 2010, 13:29:16
Right, I've got a load of prices though from one of the dealers. Some of the prices seem quite reasonable, others quite expensive. Below are a list of the parts and the prices, (ex VAT). I'd be interested to know what you guys think, and what parts I can get cheaper elsewhere, (although for many parts I'd like to stay OEM)


Oil filter   = £3.23 (cheap)
Fuel filter = £6.74 (reasonable)
Auto box sump gaskets;
inner       = £5.83
outer      = £11.34 (again, both reasonable)
Auto box oil filter = £52.80! (bloody expensive!)
Rear brake pads = £43.20 (expensive)
Rear brake discs = £75.20 per pair (seems a bit steep)
Front discs and pads set = £80.15
Aux belt = £19.62 (seems a bit steep)
Cam belt kit inc pulley and tensioners = £109.43 (is that expensive?)
Water pump = £95.20 (seems very expensive)
Thermostat = £37.37 (expensive. even Land Rover main dealer ones are only £10)
Rocker cover gasket kit = £59.48 (from what I've read I'd only main genuine parts for that)
Hand brake shoes = £57.60 (seems expensive)
Breather = £74.38 (I thought I read on here that they were only £42?)
Oil, 10w/40 semi, 10 litres = £23.40 (very cheap)
Air filter = £9.92 (seems reasonable)
Pollen filter = £13.02


I've missed off stuff like the sump plug washers for gearbox and engine sump and they are only a few pence each.

Also I understand that the drain the diff fluid requires splitting the diff in two, as it is supposed to be sealed for life? So I'd need a new diff gasket as well.

Title: Re: Main Dealers not giving Trade Card discount?
Post by: tunnie on 23 October 2010, 13:34:35
Oil filter   = £3.23 (cheap)

This not not trade price , is this paper or spin on filter? Its just over a £1 each for spinny ones

Auto box oil filter = £52.80! (bloody expensive)

Contact jpat, he can do the filter and gasket for lot less than that


Cam belt kit inc pulley and tensioners = £109.43 (is that expensive?)

No about right

Water pump = £95.20 (seems very expensive)

They jumped from £30 odd to £65 odd recently, guess they have gone up again!

Oil, 10w/40 semi, 10 litres = £23.40 (very cheap)

Sory but this is VERY expensive, last time i got some on TC its £33 for 20L, as its buy 3 for price of 4 (5L bottles)
Title: Re: Main Dealers not giving Trade Card discount?
Post by: Andy B on 23 October 2010, 13:39:42
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Auto box oil filter = £52.80! (bloody expensive!) .....

See Dave Kember of the ABS,  mine came from him. You can contact him via the deatils of the ABS site or from the back of the Straight Six magazine, filter, large & small gasket £35 +postage.
Title: Re: Main Dealers not giving Trade Card discount?
Post by: TheBoy on 23 October 2010, 14:26:17
Prices sound about right, though they have charged you for OE rear pads, not TC ones. Which is best value is a source of debate though.


Oil, on TC, sound be around £35 for 20l (as its buy 3, get a 4th free)
Title: Re: Main Dealers not giving Trade Card discount?
Post by: V6 CDX-er on 23 October 2010, 14:42:47
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Prices sound about right, though they have charged you for OE rear pads, not TC ones. Which is best value is a source of debate though.


Oil, on TC, sound be around £35 for 20l (as its buy 3, get a 4th free)


Cheers.

i forgot to mention, I have been quoted £15.60 for spark plugs, (sounds ok), and a huge £205 for HT leads!

I've had a look on Demontweaks, but can't find a listing for the Magnecor leads. Anyone know how much they are or where to get them from?
Title: Re: Main Dealers not giving Trade Card discount?
Post by: humbucker on 23 October 2010, 15:04:06
my local dealer wont accept trade card from anyone, despite being in trade card book. they are part of a 'group' in the area. so i call their parent branch 20 miles away who WILL accept the trade card. they then drive the bits on their van to the original branch at cost to themselves. weird logic.
Title: Re: Main Dealers not giving Trade Card discount?
Post by: Andy B on 23 October 2010, 16:51:44
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my local dealer wont accept trade card from anyone, despite being in trade card book. they are part of a 'group' in the area. so i call their parent branch 20 miles away who WILL accept the trade card. they then drive the bits on their van to the original branch at cost to themselves. weird logic.

It's a bit tlike that for me with Perry's at Bury. Burnley/Coln have the TC account but I pay Bury  :-?
Title: Re: Main Dealers not giving Trade Card discount?
Post by: Osprey on 23 October 2010, 17:29:25
My local lot say that if the system accepts the ABS TC number, which it does, they will give the discount.   :)

The blurb I got from ABS said the mambership is in the name of David Waddinton and queries should go to

Modified - that info isn't for public internet forums, its for ABS to give to people themselves (which they do when they send out member packs)
Title: Re: Main Dealers not giving Trade Card discount?
Post by: humbucker on 23 October 2010, 22:15:40
i should point out that the dealer i use offers trade discount if trade club is not present on the price list, however, it still defies logic the way its shipped from one branch to another when theyre effectively the same company.
Title: Re: Main Dealers not giving Trade Card discount?
Post by: andyc on 24 October 2010, 00:33:54
If the Dealer is in the Trade Club Program and you have a valid Autobahn membership card then get the dealer to phone TC with the card number to confrim.
If they don't go elsewhere (See Below:y)

As for one dealer not taking the card but the other branch does this will be because one is a satellite branch and as such cannot take part in TC as it all has to be done from the main branch.

We have the same system as our Haverhill branch as is a Satallite Branch of Bury they cannot sell at TC prices because they haven't a wholesale opperation

Like i've said see below if you have a problem

Cheers
Andy
Title: Re: Main Dealers not giving Trade Card discount?
Post by: V6 CDX-er on 24 October 2010, 00:52:13
Thanks all.

Just in the middle of trying to cut the cost of some of these parts., because at the moment the total is coming to £1173 inc VAT.

Some parts, such as the cam belt kit and the rocker cover gaskets I'd rather buy genuine items, but I find paying £95 +VAT for a water pump a bit rich. Would parts from Euro Car parts be suitable, (I'm thinking discs as well)?

Forgive me if this seems like a stupid question, but with the Land Rover there are certain firms (Britpart for example) who have a real bad rep for low quality replacement parts.

Anyone got any experiance of the stuff from Euro Car Parts? Any idea where I can get decent HT leads from that don't cost over £200?
Title: Re: Main Dealers not giving Trade Card discount?
Post by: Andy B on 24 October 2010, 09:38:51
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....but I find paying £95 +VAT for a water pump a bit rich. .....

If it's not broke, on a V6, then don't fix it. More important on a 4 ot cos it's cam belt driven.  :y
Title: Re: Main Dealers not giving Trade Card discount?
Post by: Richie London on 24 October 2010, 10:26:43
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Prices sound about right, though they have charged you for OE rear pads, not TC ones. Which is best value is a source of debate though.


Oil, on TC, sound be around £35 for 20l (as its buy 3, get a 4th free)


Cheers.

i forgot to mention, I have been quoted £15.60 for spark plugs, (sounds ok), and a huge £205 for HT leads!I've had a look on Demontweaks, but can't find a listing for the Magnecor leads. Anyone know how much they are or where to get them from?


£25  direct from autobhans club
Title: Re: Main Dealers not giving Trade Card discount?
Post by: V6 CDX-er on 24 October 2010, 14:08:43
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Prices sound about right, though they have charged you for OE rear pads, not TC ones. Which is best value is a source of debate though.


Oil, on TC, sound be around £35 for 20l (as its buy 3, get a 4th free)


Cheers.

i forgot to mention, I have been quoted £15.60 for spark plugs, (sounds ok), and a huge £205 for HT leads!I've had a look on Demontweaks, but can't find a listing for the Magnecor leads. Anyone know how much they are or where to get them from?


£25  direct from autobhans club


That's more like it. Bargintastic.

Cheers  :y
Title: Re: Main Dealers not giving Trade Card discount?
Post by: Diamond Black Geezer on 24 October 2010, 14:39:38
Yep, shop around, it's amazing what you can find. Although I would second the motion that if it aint broke etc... Are you really in need to spend over 1100 quid on your car? For that money you could buy a spare omega, and just use that one when this one breaks! Think of it as an 1555kg biro. :-)
Title: Re: Main Dealers not giving Trade Card discount?
Post by: V6 CDX-er on 24 October 2010, 19:57:17
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Yep, shop around, it's amazing what you can find. Although I would second the motion that if it aint broke etc... Are you really in need to spend over 1100 quid on your car? For that money you could buy a spare omega, and just use that one when this one breaks! Think of it as an 1555kg biro. :-)


I understand fully what you are saying. However.......

I do a very large mileage per year. 40'000 +. Now, I could go out and buy a three year old Mondeo / Vectra, and run that for a few years, suffering thousands of pounds in depriciation. Or I could get something like the two vehicles mentioned above on a lease agreement, pay thousands over a few years with the mileage I'd put on it, and have no asset at the end of things.

At the moment I'm still on paternity & holiday leave, (just), and I also still have my Seat Toledo untill such time that the Omega is sorted. What I'd rather do, and what I always do is buy a motor for £2000-£3000, run it for one to two years, then sell it, loosing not a great deal of money in the long run.

The aim is to get the Omega sorted, including purchase price for a maximum budget of £2500. Whilst I have two 'everyday' cars to run, and whilst I'm doing all the other work on the Omega, I'd rather get everything done in one go. Once it's done, it's done, and it likely (crossed fingers), not going to be letting me down in the future, or off the road for anything other than the odd day for routine servicing.
Title: Re: Main Dealers not giving Trade Card discount?
Post by: Bionic on 25 October 2010, 05:14:01
Ever given thought to the fact that it may well be the antics of some small minded chair/desk polishing wannabe trying to justify his company position?
Not all employees do as they are told or stay within the company rules, their ego's will not let them!
Sad, very sad I know - but that is the sorry truth of it and the only thing that makes any logical sense.
I would go and have a word with the area manager and see if he is aware of that disparity.  :y
Title: Re: Main Dealers not giving Trade Card discount?
Post by: albitz on 25 October 2010, 06:27:49
As alluded to by some previous posts - dealers who are not participants in the TC scheme are unlikely to give TC prices.
There are several Underwoods dealers in my area, but only one is a participant in the scheme. There is a list of participating dealers on the TC website. :y