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Title: brake pipe replacement
Post by: DAVE H on 06 November 2010, 00:15:01
I have Xreg estate, garage advises brake piping is corroded and they need to remove engine to do this. Are they trying to pull a fast one
Title: Re: brake pipe replacement
Post by: Andy B on 06 November 2010, 00:35:00
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I have Xreg estate, garage advises brake piping is corroded and they need to remove engine to do this. Are they trying to pull a fast one


I've never replaced any brake pipes on my Omega, although engine removal would probably make the ABS modulator more accessable it does seem a bit extreme.  :-?
Title: Re: brake pipe replacement
Post by: Kneepad on 06 November 2010, 00:41:33


Do you know which brake pipes need doing. I would agree with Andy, extreme to say the least.
Title: Re: brake pipe replacement
Post by: DAVE H on 06 November 2010, 07:58:53
offside rear (front to rear) and offside front
Title: Re: brake pipe replacement
Post by: Malcolm_D on 06 November 2010, 10:18:54
Both my miggies have had a number of the 'pig to get at' brake pipes replaced by the garage for their mots, not a cheap job due to the labour involved but doable without taking the engine out, if it were me I would try elsewhere.  :y
Title: Re: brake pipe replacement
Post by: feeutfo on 06 November 2010, 16:58:55
Sounds like 'dangle berries' to me. Have you seen this corrosion yourself?
Title: Re: brake pipe replacement
Post by: Andy B on 06 November 2010, 17:07:47
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Sounds like 'dangle berries' to me. Have you seen this corrosion yourself?

Sounds like it to me. My sister-in-law has just been collared with this for her MOT this week.
I told her last year I'd take it to 'my' MOT station but no, she took it to the same place that she paid £1300 at last year .... the Fiat main dealer!!  :o The thieving barstewards aslo said it needed 4 new tyres, but the sister-in-law had taken it to ATS a few days before to ask if they were all legal - they were all 3mm & above  :y When Fiat was challenged about this, they said they recomended tyres be changed at 3mm  :-?  :-?  >:(  >:(
Title: Re: brake pipe replacement
Post by: feeutfo on 06 November 2010, 17:10:57
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Sounds like 'dangle berries' to me. Have you seen this corrosion yourself?

Sounds like it to me. My sister-in-law has just been collared with this for her MOT this week.
I told her last year I'd take it to 'my' MOT station but no, she took it to the same place that she paid £1300 at last year .... the Fiat main dealer!!  :o The thieving barstewards aslo said it needed 4 new tyres, but the sister-in-law had taken it to ATS a few days before to ask if they were all legal - they were all 3mm & above  :y When Fiat was challenged about this, they said they recomended tyres be changed at 3mm  :-?  :-?  >:(  >:(
Stealers mate, all the same.  >:(
Title: Re: brake pipe replacement
Post by: Elite Pete on 06 November 2010, 17:12:18
Just replace the section of pipe that has got the corrosion, there's no need to replace it all ;)
Title: Re: brake pipe replacement
Post by: Andy B on 06 November 2010, 17:14:20
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Just replace the section of pipe that has got the corrosion, there's no need to replace it all ;)

That'd be too much like common sense  ::)
Title: Re: brake pipe replacement
Post by: Malcolm_D on 06 November 2010, 17:26:05
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Just replace the section of pipe that has got the corrosion, there's no need to replace it all ;)

I made up some brake pipes years ago when I owned a Riley Elf, never done it since but it does make sense just to replace the corroded part. What tools are needed to create the joints to mate to the existing pipe and what unions are required? Any idea where can they be bought from?  :y
Title: Re: brake pipe replacement
Post by: Andy B on 06 November 2010, 17:32:50
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Just replace the section of pipe that has got the corrosion, there's no need to replace it all ;)

I made up some brake pipes years ago when I owned a Riley Elf, never done it since but it does make sense just to replace the corroded part. What tools are needed to create the joints to mate to the existing pipe and what unions are required? Any idea where can they be bought from?  :y

These do union kits & the flare tools http://www.frost.co.uk/productList.asp?catID=14&frostCat=Brakes although the last time I needed a small pipe making up it was peanuts at a local motor factors for the pipe to be made up.  :y
Title: Re: brake pipe replacement
Post by: tidla on 06 November 2010, 19:30:42
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/PIPE-FLARING-TOOL-KIT-SET-10-PC-BRAKE-MECHANIC-PLUMBER-/180564156431?pt=UK_Hand_Tools_Equipment&hash=item2a0a76600f

this cheap one does the job for me , used many a time.

you will probably find it best to replace the complete section of pipe which is corroded and take it back to the next manufacturer joint/union.
most cars do have joint sections on long runs.

if the pipe runs thru a tight spot, us the old pipe as a guide to pull though the new pipe with some tape attached.
Title: Re: brake pipe replacement
Post by: Brikhead on 07 November 2010, 00:14:16
I don't think they allow you to 'join' to existing brake lines any more, as said correct practice is to replace the entire length of pipe between the different components of the brake system.

I use a 'cheap' Sealy pipe flaring kit fairly often, it gives good results although it can be tricky following the manufacturers routing of the old pipe.

Some people just clean up the rusty pipe and coat it in old engine oil...