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Title: Help - i think the inevitable has happened!!
Post by: markm730 on 08 November 2010, 09:48:21
After droppin my lad off at school this morning ive pulled up outside the house and have lost all drive.
2.5 auto, none of the gears will engage and the park brake wont work either. engine turns over fine and as normal but just dont have any drive.
have been having problems with what could possible be worn bearings in the diff - see previous posts for details.
have breakdown recovery on way out shortly to see if they can pinpoint the prob but for now does anyone have any ideas???
Title: Re: Help - i think the inevitable has happened!!
Post by: 2woody on 08 November 2010, 10:08:46
check that the lever hasn't fallen off the auto gearbox shifter. The one from the base of the lever to the actual transmission.

for a diff to become so worn that it loses drive, it'll have been making noises loud enough to wake the dead for tens of thousands of miles IMO
Title: Re: Help - i think the inevitable has happened!!
Post by: markm730 on 08 November 2010, 10:23:49
well what can i say apart from a "certain colour of flag" breakdown are a waste of time. just had them out now and he sat in the car, moved the gear lever up and down a few times and said "it could be this or it could be that" im not 100% sure but i can take you to a garage and even if it was a gearbox problem i cant do anything at the side of the road!!
Thanks for nothing - he certainly earning his wages today!!
im getting it down to the local garage this afternoon so will mention the point about the gear lever, thanks for that.
cheers
mark  :y
Title: Re: Help - i think the inevitable has happened!!
Post by: 2woody on 08 November 2010, 10:25:08
or try the big "what gear am I in" switch on the side of the gearbox.

does the idle change when you move the lever - like it has gone into gear ?
Title: Re: Help - i think the inevitable has happened!!
Post by: markm730 on 08 November 2010, 10:39:21
no change at all in idle speed when gear selected.
whats the switch your on about?
Title: Re: Help - i think the inevitable has happened!!
Post by: Andy B on 08 November 2010, 10:43:30
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whats the switch your on about?
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or try the big "what gear am I in" switch on the side of the gearbox. .....
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you have to get under the car to see it.  :y

Title: Re: Help - i think the inevitable has happened!!
Post by: markm730 on 08 November 2010, 10:50:30
not being a mechanic and also not wanting to sound stoopid - probably too late for that!, what does this switch do?
 :-?
Title: Re: Help - i think the inevitable has happened!!
Post by: Andy B on 08 November 2010, 10:51:52
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not being a mechanic and also not wanting to sound stoopid - probably too late for that!, what does this switch do?
 :-?

electrically confirms that you are in the gear selected.

Have a read through this ...... http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1267956397 they're expensive to replace with a new one, but apparently generally respond to a clean.  ;) :y
Title: Re: Help - i think the inevitable has happened!!
Post by: markm730 on 08 November 2010, 10:58:36
ok thanks,
failing that, do you think it could be anything else?
is it possible it could of had something to do with the noise ive been getting from the rear end over the last few mths?
possible diagnosis from previous posts all point towards the diff / driveshaft.
thx
Title: Re: Help - i think the inevitable has happened!!
Post by: feeutfo on 08 November 2010, 10:59:28
Do the gear selector lights move in conjunction with the gear lever position?

Ie does the neutral light coincide with neutral gear lever position,same for drive, and so on for all gears...?
Title: Re: Help - i think the inevitable has happened!!
Post by: Andy B on 08 November 2010, 11:03:28
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is it possible it could of had something to do with the noise ive been getting from the rear end over the last few mths?
possible diagnosis from previous posts all point towards the diff / driveshaft.
thx

Now that you mention that particular symptom ......  ::) could be!

Try Bury Salvage, he had a few Omegas in a few months ago if you need bits,
http://maps.google.co.uk/maps/place?hl=en&um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=bury+salvage&fb=1&gl=uk&hq=salvage&hnear=Bury,+Greater+Manchester&cid=11983036529691141666 or Auto Save around the corner is a good yard, no idea what he has in at the moment though.  :y  :y  :y
Title: Re: Help - i think the inevitable has happened!!
Post by: markm730 on 08 November 2010, 11:07:37
just checked now, yes all the lights correspond with the relevant gear selection  :y
Title: Re: Help - i think the inevitable has happened!!
Post by: Welung666 on 08 November 2010, 11:23:36
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just checked now, yes all the lights correspond with the relevant gear selection  :y

I've got a diff if it does turn out to be that :y
Title: Re: Help - i think the inevitable has happened!!
Post by: markm730 on 08 November 2010, 11:33:26
been onto bury salvage and they have a w-reg 2.5 in and wants £100 for the diff or £30 for the d/shaft although he didnt say if it was an auto or not - will this make a difference and is this an ok price to pay for these parts if thats the prob?
i did get a reply last week from someone who had a diff going but they wanted £70 i think but then it would have to be posted coz i cant get to it and the garage wants £100 for fittin it.  :'( :'(
Title: Re: Help - i think the inevitable has happened!!
Post by: feeutfo on 08 November 2010, 11:34:07
So, presumably, if engine running and box in drive, the prop will turn but the drive shafts and wheels will not.

Can the prop be seen turning under the car?
Title: Re: Help - i think the inevitable has happened!!
Post by: markm730 on 08 November 2010, 11:34:25
how much??
Title: Re: Help - i think the inevitable has happened!!
Post by: markm730 on 08 November 2010, 11:52:52
will let you know later as dont have the means to get under it and check for things at moment, + its raining quite heavy here aswel, so going to get it down to local garage shortly for hopefull diagnosis.
thanks for input
Title: Re: Help - i think the inevitable has happened!!
Post by: markm730 on 08 November 2010, 11:56:58
wellung666 - how much for the diff if it turns out to be that and how much for getting it up here to oldham?
Oh, and how soon could you get it here if needed? :y
Title: Re: Help - i think the inevitable has happened!!
Post by: Welung666 on 08 November 2010, 11:57:58
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wellung666 - how much for the diff if it turns out to be that and how much for getting it up here to oldham?
Oh, and how soon could you get it here if needed? :y

PM on it's way :y
Title: Re: Help - i think the inevitable has happened!!
Post by: markm730 on 08 November 2010, 12:19:25
pm sent back. thanks :)
Title: Re: Help - i think the inevitable has happened!!
Post by: Andy H on 08 November 2010, 19:45:36
The other component(s) that could make nasty noises and then fail with loss of drive would be the CV (constant velocity) joints.

Two in each drive shaft and three in the prop shaft. Total failure of any one of them could cause loss of drive.
Title: Re: Help - i think the inevitable has happened!!
Post by: markm730 on 09 November 2010, 09:42:48
Morning all,
diagnosis back,
everything else under the car is ok apart from the diff - as predicted, its goosed!!
hopefully sorted before the end of the week with help from 'welung666'.

Thanks again for all your help guys, appreciate it.
Mark  :y :y :y