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Title: oil
Post by: buzzard on 09 November 2010, 21:05:17
it may sound daft to you guys but could somebody please tell me what kind of engine oil should i run my miggy on? ive always had deisel motors so i thought id better get the right kind for the miggy. thanks folks [smiley=thumbsup.gif]
Title: Re: oil
Post by: TheBoy on 09 November 2010, 21:09:07
GM Semi Synth.

£40.89 inc VAT from dealer if you have access to Trade Club

That is for 4 x 5l cans ;)
Title: Re: oil
Post by: aaronjb on 09 November 2010, 21:12:12
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GM Semi Synth.

£40.89 inc VAT from dealer if you have access to Trade Club

That is for 4 x 5l cans ;)

Why Semi and not fully, out of interest?

Not asking to be an argumentative SOB, honest ;) it's just that I always twitch when I hear 'semi synth' and I wonder why not spend a little extra for fully synth..
Title: Re: oil
Post by: Seth on 09 November 2010, 21:13:34
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GM Semi Synth.

£40.89 inc VAT from dealer if you have access to Trade Club

That is for 4 x 5l cans ;)

You're slipping J - the grade is 10-40 ;D
Title: Re: oil
Post by: TheBoy on 09 November 2010, 21:15:55
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GM Semi Synth.

£40.89 inc VAT from dealer if you have access to Trade Club

That is for 4 x 5l cans ;)

Why Semi and not fully, out of interest?

Not asking to be an argumentative SOB, honest ;) it's just that I always twitch when I hear 'semi synth' and I wonder why not spend a little extra for fully synth..
Primary reason for full synth is slightly longer life.

Personally, I'd rather change i little more often, and no point using a more expensive oil.  Regular oil changes with a semi synth is far kinder to the engine than less regular changes with a longer life oil.
Title: Re: oil
Post by: TheBoy on 09 November 2010, 21:17:02
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GM Semi Synth.

£40.89 inc VAT from dealer if you have access to Trade Club

That is for 4 x 5l cans ;)

You're slipping J - the grade is 10-40 ;D
OK, General Motors 10/40W Semi Synthetic
Title: Re: oil
Post by: aaronjb on 09 November 2010, 21:17:03
I suppose I can see that on a non-turbo road car, fair point :)
Title: Re: oil
Post by: Kneepad on 09 November 2010, 21:17:28
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GM Semi Synth.

£40.89 inc VAT from dealer if you have access to Trade Club

That is for 4 x 5l cans ;)

Why Semi and not fully, out of interest?

Not asking to be an argumentative SOB, honest ;) it's just that I always twitch when I hear 'semi synth' and I wonder why not spend a little extra for fully synth..


You should enjoy reading this:

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1200997700

                           
Title: Re: oil
Post by: TheBoy on 09 November 2010, 21:18:30
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I suppose I can see that on a non-turbo road car, fair point :)
Depending on the turbo, still valid.  For a diesel, definately. For a high performance petrol turbo, I'd probably change the priorities on life/performance/properties.
Title: Re: oil
Post by: aaronjb on 09 November 2010, 21:22:32
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GM Semi Synth.

£40.89 inc VAT from dealer if you have access to Trade Club

That is for 4 x 5l cans ;)

Why Semi and not fully, out of interest?

Not asking to be an argumentative SOB, honest ;) it's just that I always twitch when I hear 'semi synth' and I wonder why not spend a little extra for fully synth..


You should enjoy reading this:

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1200997700

                           

I had a feeling that would be a link to one of Guy/Simon/Tim(I think?)'s posts ;) (Incidentally that's where all my oil comes from ;))

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I suppose I can see that on a non-turbo road car, fair point :)
Depending on the turbo, still valid.  For a diesel, definately. For a high performance petrol turbo, I'd probably change the priorities on life/performance/properties.

Indeed - the MR2 gets fully synth from Opie, changed every 6k and/or after an extended session on track .. but it sees a hard life given it's putting out anywhere between 50 and 100% more power than standard (depending on how far the red mist descendswick gets turned up) with an oil-cooled plain bearing turbo :)

Anyway, I digress - can't argue with the price of the GM oil on the trade club, for sure.
Title: Re: oil
Post by: buzzard on 09 November 2010, 21:34:26
cheers fellas [smiley=thumbsup.gif]
Title: Re: oil
Post by: Kevin Wood on 09 November 2010, 23:30:28
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Anyway, I digress - can't argue with the price of the GM oil on the trade club, for sure.

The synthetic 5w30 is good stuff too, and about 60 odd quid for 20L IIRC. Worth a try if you can live with a 30 weight oil.

Kevin
Title: Re: oil
Post by: aaronjb on 09 November 2010, 23:37:50
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Anyway, I digress - can't argue with the price of the GM oil on the trade club, for sure.

The synthetic 5w30 is good stuff too, and about 60 odd quid for 20L IIRC. Worth a try if you can live with a 30 weight oil.

That's definitely what I'll put in the Omega soon - not sure I can get away with it in the MR2, but I'll give it a try once I fix the oil pressure & temperature gauges :)
Title: Re: oil
Post by: Omega_Dan on 10 November 2010, 12:27:44
GM 10w 40 is in mine as recommended by fellow members :y
Title: Re: oil
Post by: Mr Hagon on 10 November 2010, 22:52:38
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Anyway, I digress - can't argue with the price of the GM oil on the trade club, for sure.

The synthetic 5w30 is good stuff too, and about 60 odd quid for 20L IIRC. Worth a try if you can live with a 30 weight oil.

Kevin
I thought that 5w30 was the current recommendation from GM these days?
Title: Re: oil
Post by: aaronjb on 10 November 2010, 22:54:00
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Anyway, I digress - can't argue with the price of the GM oil on the trade club, for sure.

The synthetic 5w30 is good stuff too, and about 60 odd quid for 20L IIRC. Worth a try if you can live with a 30 weight oil.

Kevin
I thought that 5w30 was the current recommendation from GM these days?

I think Kevin may have been referring to me and my 'other car' when he said 'if you can live with' :)
Title: Re: oil
Post by: Kevin Wood on 11 November 2010, 00:51:51
Yep, the 5w30 is indeed the recommendation for the later Omegas on 20k service schedules (although I'd never let any car run that long on any oil) ;D.

Kevin
Title: Re: oil
Post by: 05omegav6 on 11 November 2010, 01:02:52
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The synthetic 5w30 is good stuff too, and about 60 odd quid for 20L IIRC.

£20 for 5l retail at local stealers. Half what halfrauds ask for castrol. :o

Just serviced the Vectra, £55 for oil, plugs, sump washer, oil, air, pollen and fuel filters. No point buying non gm bits at that price :y
Title: Re: oil
Post by: geoffr70 on 11 November 2010, 02:32:47
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The synthetic 5w30 is good stuff too, and about 60 odd quid for 20L IIRC.

£20 for 5l retail at local stealers. Half what halfrauds ask for castrol. :o

Just serviced the Vectra, £55 for oil, plugs, sump washer, oil, air, pollen and fuel filters. No point buying non gm bits at that price :y

more like double that! It's about £31 retail for 10/40, 5/30 is more expensive
Title: Re: oil
Post by: Kevin Wood on 11 November 2010, 11:31:10
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more like double that! It's about £31 retail for 10/40, 5/30 is more expensive

Yep, I nearly bought some from a dealer that didn't do trade club once. When they told me the price of just 5L of the 5w30 I made a swift about turn and beat a hasty retreat. :o

On trade club it does take some beating, though.

Kevin
Title: Re: oil
Post by: Mr Hagon on 11 November 2010, 13:30:52
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Yep, the 5w30 is indeed the recommendation for the later Omegas on 20k service schedules (although I'd never let any car run that long on any oil) ;D.

Kevin
Thought as much, just remembered a previous post from some time ago.

Agree that I wouldn't let a car run 20k miles between oil changes.  As I only do 5-6k miles a year it gets done annually irrespective.
Title: Re: oil
Post by: Kevin Wood on 11 November 2010, 14:07:57
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Yep, the 5w30 is indeed the recommendation for the later Omegas on 20k service schedules (although I'd never let any car run that long on any oil) ;D.

Kevin

I should say, of course, no problem running these engines on the 10w40 either as long as oil change intervals are appropriate.

Kevin
Title: Re: oil
Post by: TheBoy on 11 November 2010, 18:32:52
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Indeed - the MR2 gets fully synth from Opie, changed every 6k and/or after an extended session on track .. but it sees a hard life given it's putting out anywhere between 50 and 100% more power than standard (depending on how far the red mist descendswick gets turned up) with an oil-cooled plain bearing turbo :)
I dont like to leave mine in that long - as soon as it starts to darken, time to change :)