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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: Omega Man on 29 November 2010, 19:18:05

Title: Sat Nav
Post by: Omega Man on 29 November 2010, 19:18:05
Just bought Omega Elite and it didnt have a CD for the sat nav. Where can I get an up to date one, are they only available from a dealer? :)
Title: Re: Sat Nav
Post by: TheBoy on 29 November 2010, 19:25:59
navtec
Title: Re: Sat Nav
Post by: hoofing it on 29 November 2010, 19:35:52
personaly I wouldn't rely on sat-nav better with a map and ask for directions.
I had to go and find my sister when her sat-nav got her lost ;D ;D
Title: Re: Sat Nav
Post by: Omega Man on 29 November 2010, 19:42:30
I agree a map is great but I cant drive with my reading glasses on! ::)
Title: Re: Sat Nav
Post by: Kneepad on 29 November 2010, 19:54:51
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I had to go and find my sister when her sat-nav got her lost

 

I'm sure it was the sat-nav to blame.   :D :D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Sat Nav
Post by: TheBoy on 29 November 2010, 19:55:11
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personaly I wouldn't rely on sat-nav better with a map and ask for directions.
I had to go and find my sister when her sat-nav got her lost ;D ;D
Ah, must be a tomtom unit ;D
Title: Re: Sat Nav
Post by: RobG on 29 November 2010, 19:59:25
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Just bought Omega Elite and it didnt have a CD for the sat nav. Where can I get an up to date one, are they only available from a dealer? :)
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NAVTEQ-VAUXHALL-OPEL-SAT-NAV-DISC-UK-2006-2007-/360322731690?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item53e4e88eaa
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Vauxhall-UK-IRELAND-2008-NCD-NCDx-NCDR-NCDC-Navteq-Opel-/190472689978?pt=UK_CE_GPS_Accessories_Software_ET&hash=item2c590e993a
Title: Re: Sat Nav
Post by: Boditza on 29 November 2010, 20:10:50
expensive but brand new :)
http://www.navigation.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/WFS/Navteq-NavteqEurope-Site/en_GB/-/EUR/ViewProductDetail-Start?ProductUUID=LOYKCghBXhcAAAEdR8IIIRmO&CatalogCategoryID=YoUKCggRMCoAAAEOfsttNDzd&HideCrumb=&JumpTo=OfferList&PersistNavigationMenu=YES
Title: Re: Sat Nav
Post by: Bionic on 30 November 2010, 11:11:28
Got me a TomTom 700 series and provided that you keep the maps up to date and use the MapShare facility it works perfectly. Like all guides, including maps, you also still have to, and should also read the road signs.
No excuse for getting lost if a bit common sense is used. The tongue is also a great tool if you just ask.
Beware of the West Country and Irish miles though..... they seem to be far longer than the ones most of us use.  :D ;D Knowing left from right is also a basic requirement.
Worst SatNav is the Clarin (Phillips) thing that is built into mine, and the placement of the Multi use control right next to the handbrake is one great annoyance. Mine is now capped with an old WD top to stop it getting activated by accident.
Life is fun  ;)
Title: Re: Sat Nav
Post by: TheBoy on 01 December 2010, 19:06:52
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Got me a TomTom 700 series and provided that you keep the maps up to date and use the MapShare facility it works perfectly. Like all guides, including maps, you also still have to, and should also read the road signs.
No excuse for getting lost if a bit common sense is used. The tongue is also a great tool if you just ask.
Beware of the West Country and Irish miles though..... they seem to be far longer than the ones most of us use.  :D ;D Knowing left from right is also a basic requirement.
Worst SatNav is the Clarin (Phillips) thing that is built into mine, and the placement of the Multi use control right next to the handbrake is one great annoyance. Mine is now capped with an old WD top to stop it getting activated by accident.
Life is fun  ;)
Despite its age, with reasonably up to date maps (2008), the CARiN is a million times more useful than any junk TomTom release.  Portable units are simply hopeless where it matters most - in the city centre.


The CARiN is a proper navigation unit, not just a GPS module like TomTom - unplug the gps unit from a CARiN and drive 20 miles, it'll still know where it is.  Try using a useless TomTom without a strong gps signal ;)


The button isn't ideal, but not bad - except when passenger gets in ;D
Title: Re: Sat Nav
Post by: millwall on 01 December 2010, 19:21:17
  Portable units are simply hopeless where it matters most - in the city centre.

tottally disagree  ive had my tom tom one for a few years   never had a problem  and its used in london nearly everyday
Title: Re: Sat Nav
Post by: TheBoy on 01 December 2010, 19:27:30
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  Portable units are simply hopeless where it matters most - in the city centre.

tottally disagree  ive had my tom tom one for a few years   never had a problem  and its used in london nearly everyday
Well, if you want a freebie, you'll find the reminents of my last one at the end of the Aston Expressway, on the tunnel bits, as the useless heap of junk let me done for the last time, so out of the window it went  :-[


Compare to a proper navigation unit, you will realise how poor the portable units are for accuracy.

Thats before you put a heat reflective windscreen in  :-X
Title: Re: Sat Nav
Post by: millwall on 01 December 2010, 19:32:00
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  Portable units are simply hopeless where it matters most - in the city centre.

tottally disagree  ive had my tom tom one for a few years   never had a problem  and its used in london nearly everyday
Well, if you want a freebie, you'll find the reminents of my last one at the end of the Aston Expressway, on the tunnel bits, as the useless heap of junk let me done for the last time, so out of the window it went  :-[


Compare to a proper navigation unit, you will realise how poor the portable units are for accuracy.

Thats before you put a heat reflective windscreen in  :-X

ive got to admit ive only ever used tom tom and been fine as i say i use it in london    the carin unit is that the one that came as standard in some omegas
Title: Re: Sat Nav
Post by: TheBoy on 01 December 2010, 19:37:31
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  Portable units are simply hopeless where it matters most - in the city centre.

tottally disagree  ive had my tom tom one for a few years   never had a problem  and its used in london nearly everyday
Well, if you want a freebie, you'll find the reminents of my last one at the end of the Aston Expressway, on the tunnel bits, as the useless heap of junk let me done for the last time, so out of the window it went  :-[


Compare to a proper navigation unit, you will realise how poor the portable units are for accuracy.

Thats before you put a heat reflective windscreen in  :-X

ive got to admit ive only ever used tom tom and been fine as i say i use it in london    the carin unit is that the one that came as standard in some omegas
CARiN in MFL 3.0 Elites.  Its old and slow, and less than ideally located (but still better than gonks stuck all over the windscreen).  It was replaced with the Siemens NCDC201x in 3.0/3.2 facelift Elites, which is newer/faster, and uses the same display was the fuel computer and steering wheel controls...
Title: Re: Sat Nav
Post by: millwall on 01 December 2010, 19:43:04
must admit i would rather have one built in the dash  unfortunately my omega is the facelift cdx  so none of them luxuries ;D
Title: Re: Sat Nav
Post by: feeutfo on 01 December 2010, 20:18:01
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must admit i would rather have one built in the dash  unfortunately my omega is the facelift cdx  so none of them luxuries ;D
It can be added, fairly sire.
Title: Re: Sat Nav
Post by: mrgreen on 01 December 2010, 20:29:21
well i've got a garmin portable and haven't had a problem in a city, yes in the tauern tunnel (13k) you lose signal but that's to be expected i would rather have one of them than try and navigate by map whilst driving, my mazda has a nav tec in it and although old it still gets me there.
Title: Re: Sat Nav
Post by: skyblue on 01 December 2010, 20:32:05
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must admit i would rather have one built in the dash  unfortunately my omega is the facelift cdx  so none of them luxuries ;D
Im sure you could get a 2nd hand one and fit it in but its finding the buggers tho. So if anybody has a lead to where they can be found I would be interested
Title: Re: Sat Nav
Post by: millwall on 01 December 2010, 21:30:36
to be honest as much as i would like to retrofit one  with sourcing all the parts  cost  and fitting  i think i will stick with what i have for now   when its time to upgrade the omega i will get an elite with sat nav
Title: Re: Sat Nav
Post by: Boditza on 02 December 2010, 06:32:28
i have germany cd with major roads of europe 2001 edition also on it and it took me wherever i wanted to go, flawless unlike the garmin nuvi 350 wich had no tmc and i got stuck for 1 hour in a trafic jam. in my opinion dash navi is way better than any after market one not to mention all the wires sticking out on your dash.
Title: Re: Sat Nav
Post by: TheBoy on 02 December 2010, 20:05:31
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i have germany cd with major roads of europe 2001 edition also on it and it took me wherever i wanted to go, flawless unlike the garmin nuvi 350 wich had no tmc and i got stuck for 1 hour in a trafic jam. in my opinion dash navi is way better than any after market one not to mention all the wires sticking out on your dash.
Sadly, TMC doesn't work on NCDC here in the UK, because the scumbags who run TMC here are money grabbing gits.
Title: Re: Sat Nav
Post by: Boditza on 02 December 2010, 20:17:55
now ic why everyone is complaining abt :(... get newer maps then :P.

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Title: Re: Sat Nav
Post by: TheBoy on 02 December 2010, 20:26:47
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now ic why everyone is complaining abt :(... get newer maps then :P.
In UK, if you have 2004 or later map, you have the menus for TMC, but in the UK, TMC is transmitted encrypted, and the decryption algorthym is supposed to be in the software.  As GM never paid to use TMC to the UK company who runs TMC here, that decryption software is NOT on any map disks (as this is only applicable to UK - other TMC countries transmit it unencrypted).
Title: Re: Sat Nav
Post by: Boditza on 02 December 2010, 20:35:39
sorry abt that... didn't knew abt that rule  :-[