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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: mathewst on 30 November 2010, 13:02:46
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On last MOT the guy told me there is a difference between rear wheels braking on handbrake.
I gues this means I will need new handbrake shoes?
Will also anything else need to be changed along with them?
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On last MOT the guy told me there is a difference between rear wheels braking on handbrake.
I gues this means I will need new handbrake shoes?
Will also anything else need to be changed along with them?
Not necessarily. It could well mean that the balance between the two sides is out, which is very common.
You need to follow the guide on handbrake adjustment to the letter and it should sort the problem out. Whilst doing that you can inspect the shoes for wear ;) ;)
Here you are: http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1152564750
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more likely that it just needs adjusting!
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Ok thanks for the info, guess this will be for the garage cause don't have the place to do it.
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As lizzie say's or alternitavely remove one lug bolt from each rear wheel, jack up rear of car, turn wheel (each side) until lug hole lines up with star adjuster (use bright torch to see) and simply turn star adjuster with long flat head screw driver through the lug hole (each side) until it stops, check that the wheel won't turn (then you know you turned the adjuster the right way) if not, turn in other direction until wheel won't turn, then simply back off each star adjuster about 3 or 4 filcks of the screw driver until wheel is free moving & you should find your handbrake pulls firm on about 3 clicks. Of course, if you like it higher (5-6 clicks) then just give each star adjuster a few more flicks until your happy.. Saves any strip down & all you need is a Jack; axle stands or similar, 17mm wrench for lug bolts & screw driver. Takes about 15-20 minutes. Tried & tested with perfect results ;) It's what any honest mechanic would do! good luck with it. Be warned, most garages will remove the road wheels, remove calipers & strip the drums before making this adjustment, then charge you £50+ for doing the job >:(
Second picture from bottom on the guide will help (except your going through the wheel too).
The adjuster is designed to be accessible through the wheel & disc for a good reason ;)
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Thanks valve, this I could do on the parking lot easily.
Cheers
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your welcome... a real mechanic showed me how to do this, following lots of money previously wasted on handbrake adjustments ;)
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your welcome... a real mechanic showed me how to do this, following lots of money previously wasted on handbrake adjustments ;)
The only trouble is though that if the handbrake cable yoke is not aligned properly, with the cables 'balanced', along with it not being fully greased, you may still end up with a bad adjuctment. Because of that I didn't think such shortcuts were a good option ;)
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just for the record, the cable adjuster should only be used for taking slack out of the cable, never to adjust the hand brake shoes' biting point... hope that helps.
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It's not a shortcut lizzie, it's how to adjust the shoes properly without an overhaul... like anything, if you have further problems then you may need to investigate other suspect areas; siezure, alignment etc.. You don't need to strip your car down, just to adjust a handbrake. It's what I'd call sensible process of elimination. But I respect your opinion nevertheless.
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It's not a shortcut lizzie, it how to adjust the shoes properly without an overhall... like anything, if you have further problems then you may need to investigate other suspect areas; siezure, alignment etc.. You don't need to strip your car down, just to adjust a handbrake. It's what I'd call sensible process of elimination. But I respect your opinion nevertheless.
No, it's not just my opinion. The OOF guide needs to be followed to the letter for a proper adjustment of the handrake system, which very importantly includes the first step of slakening the yoke and handbrake cables. This allows for the correct adjustment of the handbrake shoes at the wheels ;) ;)
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Here you go ;)
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1152564750
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lizzie the guide is "Servicing the rear disc and parking brakes" I thought matt wanted to adjust his parking brake? He will find that one star wheel is a little siezed and needs a squirt of WD and then he can adjust the shoes as necessary. If he want to fully service the discs, shoes, brakes, cable etc. then of course the guide may be helpful. I'm not gonna have a handbrake arguement, I've done everything you can possibly do with the whole parking brake system on the Omega, so I'll let matt decide. Thought I might save him a totally unecessary PITA job & some money? Would you strip your engine down to change a spark plug, just to check everthing else is ok? probably not. BTW the guide say's to use the cable adjuster to adjust the bite... whooooops :(
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Here you go ;)
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1152564750
There is an echo here Pete ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
I did put that link up in my first post on this thread :D :D ;)
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lizzie the guide is "Servicing the rear disc and parking brakes" I thought matt wanted to adjust his parking brake? He will find that one star wheel is a little siezed and needs a squirt of WD and then he can adjust the shoes as necessary. If he want to fully service the discs, shoes, brakes, cable etc. then of course the guide may be helpful. I'm not gonna have a handbrake arguement, I've done everything you can possibly do with the whole parking brake system on the Omega, so I'll let matt decide. Thought I might save him a totally unecessary PITA job & some money? Would you strip your engine down to change a spark plug, just to check everthing else is ok? probably not. BTW the guide say's to use the cable adjuster to adjust the bite... whooooops :(
Fair comment 24 Valve :y :y :y
We both have different experiences with the Omega brakes / handbrake of course :D :D ;)
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Here you go ;)
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1152564750
There is an echo here Pete ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
I did put that link up in my first post on this thread :D :D ;)
I'm sorry Lizzie but thought it might be better coming from a bloke :P ;D ;D
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Here you go ;)
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1152564750
There is an echo here Pete ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
I did put that link up in my first post on this thread :D :D ;)
I'm sorry Lizzie but thought it might be better coming from a bloke :P ;D ;D
Well you could be very right on that Pete! I certainly am not always taken seriously on this part of the forum! I suppose it's a bloke thing::) ::) :D :D :D ;)
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Here you go ;)
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1152564750
There is an echo here Pete ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
I did put that link up in my first post on this thread :D :D ;)
I'm sorry Lizzie but thought it might be better coming from a bloke :P ;D ;D
Well you could be very right on that Pete! I certainly am not always taken seriously on this part of the forum! I suppose it's a bloke thing::) ::) :D :D :D ;)
Don't know why Lizzie, you know your stuff ;)
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Here you go ;)
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1152564750
There is an echo here Pete ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
I did put that link up in my first post on this thread :D :D ;)
I'm sorry Lizzie but thought it might be better coming from a bloke :P ;D ;D
Well you could be very right on that Pete! I certainly am not always taken seriously on this part of the forum! I suppose it's a bloke thing::) ::) :D :D :D ;)
Don't know why Lizzie, you know your stuff ;)
That's kind :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :y
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I certainly am not always taken seriously on this part of the forum!
I don't know where you get that impression Lizzie. I for one zoom in on any comments you make here.
Having read all of your posts, since I became a member it's obvious that you are one of a handful of people here that actually know what they're talking about.
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I certainly am not always taken seriously on this part of the forum!
I don't know where you get that impression Lizzie. I for one zoom in on any comments you make here.
Having read all of your posts, since I became a member it's obvious that you are one of a handful of people here that actually know what they're talking about.
Ah thanks Kneepad! :-* :-* :-* :-* :y
No, to be honest there are men who do not trust women on matters to do with cars as we can't possibly know anything about them with our brains!! ::) ::) ::) ;D ;D ;D ;D
I try to prove that is a bad theory! :D :D :D ;)
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I certainly am not always taken seriously on this part of the forum!
I don't know where you get that impression Lizzie. I for one zoom in on any comments you make here.
Having read all of your posts, since I became a member it's obvious that you are one of a handful of people here that actually know what they're talking about.
Ah thanks Kneepad! :-* :-* :-* :-* :y
No, to be honest there are men who do not trust women on matters to do with cars as we can't possibly know anything about them with our brains!! ::) ::) ::) ;D ;D ;D ;D
I try to prove that is a bad theory! :D :D :D ;)
Yeah, but you know where they keep their brains. ;D
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I certainly am not always taken seriously on this part of the forum!
I don't know where you get that impression Lizzie. I for one zoom in on any comments you make here.
Having read all of your posts, since I became a member it's obvious that you are one of a handful of people here that actually know what they're talking about.
Ah thanks Kneepad! :-* :-* :-* :-* :y
No, to be honest there are men who do not trust women on matters to do with cars as we can't possibly know anything about them with our brains!! ::) ::) ::) ;D ;D ;D ;D
I try to prove that is a bad theory! :D :D :D ;)
Yeah, but you know where they keep their brains. ;D
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D :y
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No, to be honest there are men who do not trust women on matters to do with cars
Lizzie I don't care which gender the advice comes from as long as it is a good advice
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lizzie the guide is "Servicing the rear disc and parking brakes" I thought matt wanted to adjust his parking brake? He will find that one star wheel is a little siezed and needs a squirt of WD and then he can adjust the shoes as necessary. If he want to fully service the discs, shoes, brakes, cable etc. then of course the guide may be helpful. I'm not gonna have a handbrake arguement, I've done everything you can possibly do with the whole parking brake system on the Omega, so I'll let matt decide. Thought I might save him a totally unecessary PITA job & some money? Would you strip your engine down to change a spark plug, just to check everthing else is ok? probably not. BTW the guide say's to use the cable adjuster to adjust the bite... whooooops :(
Here is the issue though.
An assumption is being made which has a big impact on the outcome.
Is the handbrake cable as it is today, correctly adjusted (and sadly many are not).
Hence the advice to run through the whole guide is the correct one :y
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No, to be honest there are men who do not trust women on matters to do with cars
Lizzie I don't care which gender the advice comes from as long as it is a good advice
Indeed, and now you have confirmation of that :D :D :D :D :D :y
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Phew!
I wouldnt say this thread was getting heated, but shall I say, the nip has certainly gone out of the air... :y
It's enjoyable reading alternative opinions. There's no such thing as a 'too thorough' job, but alternatively you can, of course, waste time on unnecessary excessive tinkering....
Having just done a handbrake, which requires a little more fine tuning yet, this has been a useful thread to read. Ta fellow oofers. :)
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No, to be honest there are men who do not trust women on matters to do with cars
Lizzie I don't care which gender the advice comes from as long as it is a good advice
Indeed, and now you have confirmation of that :D :D :D :D :D :y
Such humility lizzie, I'm touched ;)
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I certainly am not always taken seriously on this part of the forum!
I don't know where you get that impression Lizzie. I for one zoom in on any comments you make here.
Having read all of your posts, since I became a member it's obvious that you are one of a handful of people here that actually know what they're talking about.
I love it kneepad, bit of a dark horse ay, you've got the moves kneepad, I've got the six pack, we'd make a good team ;) ;D :y And I'm damn sure lizzie wants to spank me...... but probably straight on the jaw :-? ;D ;D
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I certainly am not always taken seriously on this part of the forum!
I don't know where you get that impression Lizzie. I for one zoom in on any comments you make here.
Having read all of your posts, since I became a member it's obvious that you are one of a handful of people here that actually know what they're talking about.
I love it kneepad, bit of a dark horse ay, you've got the moves kneepad, I've got the six pack, we'd make a good team ;) ;D :y And I'm damn sure lizzie wants to spank me...... but probably straight on the jaw :-? ;D ;D
Nop 24 Valve I think we are all friends here, although we all disagree sometimes! :D :D :D :y :y
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Thank you Lizzie :) :y
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And I'm damn sure lizzie wants to spank me
;D ;D ;D ;D Well we can all dream. :y :y
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I'm sure she may well do kneepad ;) But you might have to be careful if there is a Mr Zoom reading all this ;D ;D ;D :y