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Title: Sorry but its another HBV thread
Post by: skyblue on 16 December 2010, 23:24:56
Changed the stat  and a 100% positive that its not leaking but im loosing coolant if I use the heating. But if I freeze my nuts off and dont use the heater I dont loose anything.... so am I right in thinking its the HBV ???
Title: Re: Sorry but its another HBV thread
Post by: vauxfan2k on 16 December 2010, 23:26:39
at last a genuine post tonight.. hooraaayy  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Sorry but its another HBV thread
Post by: vauxfan2k on 16 December 2010, 23:27:54
is it a fast loss or slow? and i dont suppose you can see it leaking from anywhere under the car? back passenger side of engine compartment if it is the HBV
Title: Re: Sorry but its another HBV thread
Post by: PhilRich on 16 December 2010, 23:28:45
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Changed the stat  and a 100% positive that its not leaking but im loosing coolant if I use the heating. But if I freeze my nuts off and dont use the heater I dont loose anything.... so am I right in thinking its the HBV ???
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No, it's definately the Horsebox! ;) ;D



And seriously?...it sounds very much like the HBV :y
Title: Re: Sorry but its another HBV thread
Post by: skyblue on 16 December 2010, 23:28:51
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at last a genuine post tonight.. hooraaayy  ;D ;D


Well thank you , kind Sir ;D ;D just cheeseed  off that I have to bring the subject up again :-[
Title: Re: Sorry but its another HBV thread
Post by: 2woody on 16 December 2010, 23:30:00
I'd say not - all of the cooling system is under the same pressure all of the time.

the HBV shuts off coolant flow to the heater only when you have both temperatures turned down as low as they'll go AND the aircon is on. But even then, both sides of the HBV are subject to the same coolant pressure, so would leak at the same rate.
Title: Re: Sorry but its another HBV thread
Post by: skyblue on 16 December 2010, 23:31:27
Thanks Phil but I would never pull a horsebox for love or money.... bloody horrible thing
Title: Re: Sorry but its another HBV thread
Post by: skyblue on 16 December 2010, 23:34:15
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I'd say not - all of the cooling system is under the same pressure all of the time.

the HBV shuts off coolant flow to the heater only when you have both temperatures turned down as low as they'll go AND the aircon is on. But even then, both sides of the HBV are subject to the same coolant pressure, so would leak at the same rate.


So are we saying it could leak with  the heating on or off in the car :-? :-? :-?
Title: Re: Sorry but its another HBV thread
Post by: 2woody on 16 December 2010, 23:36:47
yes.
Title: Re: Sorry but its another HBV thread
Post by: skyblue on 16 December 2010, 23:38:49
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yes.


Any thoughts as to what it could be causing this leakage then  :( :-?
Title: Re: Sorry but its another HBV thread
Post by: The Red Baron on 16 December 2010, 23:39:20
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Changed the stat  and a 100% positive that its not leaking but im loosing coolant if I use the heating. But if I freeze my nuts off and dont use the heater I dont loose anything.... so am I right in thinking its the HBV ???
a strong possibility its the HBV, have known them to leak like that before. one of mine did the same. ;)
Title: Re: Sorry but its another HBV thread
Post by: 2woody on 16 December 2010, 23:42:12
if you can't see it, go looking down the back of the block where the HBV is.

I'm not saving that the HBV isn't leaking, only that the heater setting won't make much difference to the situation.
Title: Re: Sorry but its another HBV thread
Post by: skyblue on 16 December 2010, 23:45:02
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Changed the stat  and a 100% positive that its not leaking but im loosing coolant if I use the heating. But if I freeze my nuts off and dont use the heater I dont loose anything.... so am I right in thinking its the HBV ???
a strong possibility its the HBV, have known them to leak like that before. one of mine did the same. ;)

Thanks mate, Just wandering if I got a cheap one to see me through till payday would confirm my nagging feelings as what it is
Title: Re: Sorry but its another HBV thread
Post by: The Red Baron on 16 December 2010, 23:45:10
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if you can't see it, go looking down the back of the block where the HBV is.

I'm not saving that the HBV isn't leaking, only that the heater setting won't make much difference to the situation.
it did on my old 3.0l elite woody. honest.
Title: Re: Sorry but its another HBV thread
Post by: The Red Baron on 16 December 2010, 23:46:22
i wouldnt go for a cheap one, they arent that expensive anyway tbh. ;)
Title: Re: Sorry but its another HBV thread
Post by: YZ250 on 16 December 2010, 23:47:02
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Changed the stat  and a 100% positive that its not leaking but im loosing coolant if I use the heating. But if I freeze my nuts off and dont use the heater I dont loose anything.... so am I right in thinking its the HBV ???


This was exactly what mine did when HBV went on it. I set the heater temp to low just to get me home. If I turned the heater up the water gushed out.  :y :y

I definately didn't have aircon on to stop it leaking. It was minus 4 outside when mine went and nearly minus 4 inside without the aircon being on. I turned heater to low setting to reduce water loss. :y
Title: Re: Sorry but its another HBV thread
Post by: skyblue on 16 December 2010, 23:49:04
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i wouldnt go for a cheap one, they arent that expensive anyway tbh. ;)


They are when you are skint  ;D ;D ;D ;D but thanks all , just needed to assure myself I was thinking the right way on the problem
Title: Re: Sorry but its another HBV thread
Post by: The Red Baron on 16 December 2010, 23:49:41
not just me then. ^^^ ;D
Title: Re: Sorry but its another HBV thread
Post by: The Red Baron on 16 December 2010, 23:51:33
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i wouldnt go for a cheap one, they arent that expensive anyway tbh. ;)


They are when you are skint  ;D ;D ;D ;D but thanks all , just needed to assure myself I was thinking the right way on the problem
have a look on vauxhallworldparts site. :y
Title: Re: Sorry but its another HBV thread
Post by: 2woody on 16 December 2010, 23:52:04
don't understand the logic there - nothing happens to the HBV until yu turn the heating right down both sides AND turn on hte aircon. But even then the heater is still filled with coolant at 15psi or so.
Title: Re: Sorry but its another HBV thread
Post by: skyblue on 16 December 2010, 23:53:36
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not just me then. ^^^ ;D


No mate but its that time of year I suppose and we all go spending crazy for some reason  ::) ;D ;D
Title: Re: Sorry but its another HBV thread
Post by: skyblue on 16 December 2010, 23:55:59
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i wouldnt go for a cheap one, they arent that expensive anyway tbh. ;)


They are when you are skint  ;D ;D ;D ;D but thanks all , just needed to assure myself I was thinking the right way on the problem
have a look on vauxhallworldparts site. :y

There is a lad in farnbourgh ( that Ive used before) that has one for 12 quid posted but Im off to collect one in the morning now
Title: Re: Sorry but its another HBV thread
Post by: The Red Baron on 16 December 2010, 23:58:23
just looked on vauxhallworldparts, they dont even have them listed now. :o
Title: Re: Sorry but its another HBV thread
Post by: skyblue on 17 December 2010, 00:01:02
Local dealer wants 40 quid so I may just strech myself to one from there as its payday next wk
Title: Re: Sorry but its another HBV thread
Post by: YZ250 on 17 December 2010, 00:07:00
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don't understand the logic there - nothing happens to the HBV until yu turn the heating right down both sides AND turn on hte aircon. But even then the heater is still filled with coolant at 15psi or so.


Found this out by accident on my previous Omega V6. Used the car on a summers day and all was fine. It got chilly at night so the heater went up and water gushed out. Next day the sun was out so heater was set low. Very little water loss. Evening came, heater went up and water gushed out so it had to be heater related. Setting to low temp may slow down water loss until it goes completely but it does sometimes give you a fighting chance of getting the car home. :y
Title: Re: Sorry but its another HBV thread
Post by: skyblue on 17 December 2010, 00:13:27
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don't understand the logic there - nothing happens to the HBV until yu turn the heating right down both sides AND turn on hte aircon. But even then the heater is still filled with coolant at 15psi or so.


Found this out by accident on my previous Omega V6. Used the car on a summers day and all was fine. It got chilly at night so the heater went up and water gushed out. Next day the sun was out so heater was set low. Very little water loss. Evening came, heater went up and water gushed out so it had to be heater related. Setting to low temp may slow down water loss until it goes completely but it does sometimes give you a fighting chance of getting the car home. :y


Thanks to you for taking the time to help me out... Thanks all... I will get this sorted and let you all knowhow it went with the new one fitted
Title: Re: Sorry but its another HBV thread
Post by: skyblue on 21 December 2010, 20:09:22
Update for this  question....... Changed the HBV  this morning and I now have a nice hot car with no leakage whats so ever... best thing thats happened for us this wk for sure  ;) :D :D :D

Thanks again people :y :y :y :y