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Title: 2.5TD belt snapped
Post by: Turk on 19 December 2010, 19:02:52
A colleague has just snapped his belt. (It's only about 6 months old  :-/).
I can fix it at my mates garage which is under four miles from where the car is now.
Any ideas whether it would be ok to nurse it over ? 
Title: Re: 2.5TD belt snapped
Post by: Omegatoy on 19 December 2010, 19:09:28
just about the same as the water pump sheding its vsnes mate, less than a mile will have it boiling up, towing is the best option :y
Title: Re: 2.5TD belt snapped
Post by: Turk on 19 December 2010, 21:54:23
Aye, thought that may be the case, but towing is going to be a risky business with conditions as they are at the moment.
Main roads are passable, but only with caution. I've seen a couple of 'A-road' incidents where the vehicle has left the road and ended up on on its roof. 

Title: Re: 2.5TD belt snapped
Post by: Ian_D on 20 December 2010, 17:21:17
Cant you replace the belt where its currently parked?

It shouldnt take long?
Title: Re: 2.5TD belt snapped
Post by: TheBoy on 20 December 2010, 19:04:03
With no water pump, I wouldn't drive it more than a few hundred yards.

That BMW engine isn't very resilient when cooked.
Title: Re: 2.5TD belt snapped
Post by: Pitchfork on 20 December 2010, 19:06:41
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With no water pump, I wouldn't drive it more than a few hundred yards. I would say feet not yards given how my Traktor behaved when the waterpump bearing collapsed!That BMW engine isn't very resilient when cooked.
Title: Re: 2.5TD belt snapped
Post by: hoofing it on 20 December 2010, 19:38:49
You might laugh at this but loads of rubber bands round the crank to the water pump.
Ive done this on several cars and that includes my tractor ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: 2.5TD belt snapped
Post by: PhilRich on 20 December 2010, 20:19:35
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You might laugh at this but loads of rubber bands round the crank to the water pump.
Ive done this on several cars and that includes my tractor ::) ::) ::)





It used to be the girlfriends silk stocking when I wer but a lad! ;D
Title: Re: 2.5TD belt snapped
Post by: Turk on 20 December 2010, 21:21:51
Only issue with using a short belt just for the waterpump is that to fit it would be only slightly less work than doing the whole job there.
Seeing as I'm doing it for free, I'm not gonna freeze my bits off doing the job in the car park.

There's also the issue of what caused a 6 month old, low mileage belt to fail. Don't know whether I'm gonna find something more problematic than just changing the belt.
Unlikely to be anything other than belt failure, but if it wasn't for bad luck, I'd have no luck at all.  ::)
Title: Re: 2.5TD belt snapped
Post by: Omegatoy on 20 December 2010, 21:34:34
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Only issue with using a short belt just for the waterpump is that to fit it would be only slightly less work than doing the whole job there.
Seeing as I'm doing it for free, I'm not gonna freeze my bits off doing the job in the car park.

There's also the issue of what caused a 6 month old, low mileage belt to fail. Don't know whether I'm gonna find something more problematic than just changing the belt.
Unlikely to be anything other than belt failure, but if it wasn't for bad luck, I'd have no luck at all.  ::)

far as i know only 3 things are likely to cause the belt to break, if the belt was not at fault

1, seized water pump(likely with this weather)
2, faulty tensioner assembly
3 seized or damaged alternator
may be an idea to carry or get a few spares  ready?
Title: Re: 2.5TD belt snapped
Post by: Turk on 20 December 2010, 22:16:35
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Only issue with using a short belt just for the waterpump is that to fit it would be only slightly less work than doing the whole job there.
Seeing as I'm doing it for free, I'm not gonna freeze my bits off doing the job in the car park.

There's also the issue of what caused a 6 month old, low mileage belt to fail. Don't know whether I'm gonna find something more problematic than just changing the belt.
Unlikely to be anything other than belt failure, but if it wasn't for bad luck, I'd have no luck at all.  ::)

far as i know only 3 things are likely to cause the belt to break, if the belt was not at fault

1, seized water pump(likely with this weather)
2, faulty tensioner assembly
3 seized or damaged alternator
may be an idea to carry or get a few spares  ready?

I've got a belt and replacement tensioner ordered for delivery tomorrow (hopefully).  :y
Don't think (and hope it's not) a seized waterpump. The car was idle between 10am and 4pm and had been driven about 14 miles prior to that.
It wasn't that cold here on Sunday and the car was in a sheltered area with no wind chill factor.
Hopefully it's a tensioner issue as I don't fancy doing another alternator exchange any time soon.  ::)
Title: Re: 2.5TD belt snapped
Post by: TheBoy on 21 December 2010, 18:54:08
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You might laugh at this but loads of rubber bands round the crank to the water pump.
Ive done this on several cars and that includes my tractor ::) ::) ::)





It used to be the girlfriends silk stocking when I wer but a lad! ;D
Any excuse to get the ladies to remove them ::)
Title: Re: 2.5TD belt snapped
Post by: Turk on 21 December 2010, 21:07:44
Got the car to the garage. It transpires the owner has 'recovery' on his insurance policy, so it was 'flat bedded' down.
The belt and tensioner arrived today.
The cause of the belt failure appears to be the tensioner wheel arm and part of the pivot collar has snapped. Found it on the underside splash tray.
On it's trip around the front of the engine it's also shattered the plastic outer edge of the A/C tensioner wheel. 
Not a problem as I'm reasonably sure both of these are still on my other car.
A new waterpump was fitted last year and it's turning freely, so I don't think that was the cause.
Can't see any other damage, so fingers crossed the bits we need are still on my spares car, and he'll be sorted in the next day or so.
Title: Re: 2.5TD belt snapped
Post by: Omegatoy on 21 December 2010, 21:18:21
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Got the car to the garage. It transpires the owner has 'recovery' on his insurance policy, so it was 'flat bedded' down.
The belt and tensioner arrived today.
The cause of the belt failure appears to be the tensioner wheel arm and part of the pivot collar has snapped. Found it on the underside splash tray.
On it's trip around the front of the engine it's also shattered the plastic outer edge of the A/C tensioner wheel. 
Not a problem as I'm reasonably sure both of these are still on my other car.
A new waterpump was fitted last year and it's turning freely, so I don't think that was the cause.
Can't see any other damage, so fingers crossed the bits we need are still on my spares car, and he'll be sorted in the next day or so.

it wasnt the actual pulley wheel had seized then? just trying to wor out what caused the arm and collar to break???
Title: Re: 2.5TD belt snapped
Post by: Turk on 21 December 2010, 21:59:14
Pulley wheel spins as it should, so bearing is ok.

I was rather surprised to find the collar had broken too.  :o 
Title: Re: 2.5TD belt snapped
Post by: Turk on 28 December 2010, 18:03:32
Another one back on the road. :y
Fortunately the only damage caused by the failed tensioner taking a trip around the belt was a shattered plastic surround on the A/C tensioner wheel.

Title: Re: 2.5TD belt snapped
Post by: Omegatoy on 28 December 2010, 19:34:47
GOOD NEWS MATE :y
Title: Re: 2.5TD belt snapped
Post by: Kneepad on 28 December 2010, 19:34:55


Job well done Turk.   :y