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Title: "Tech2" on ebay
Post by: Fitzcarraldo on 02 February 2011, 21:52:55
Just wondering if you can activate cruise control with one of these or are they code readers only?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NEW-Opel-Vauxhall-Tech2-USB-Tech-Diagnostic-OBD2-EOBD-/280613344889?pt=UK_Diagnostic_Tools_Equipment&hash=item4155dbd679

Title: Re: "Tech2" on ebay
Post by: Jimbob on 02 February 2011, 21:57:06
its not a tech 2 , and highly unlikiely

no experience of that actual device, but som similar ones are are known to be conterfeit and somewhat unreliable
Title: Re: "Tech2" on ebay
Post by: Andy B on 02 February 2011, 21:59:47
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Just wondering if you can activate cruise control with one of these or are they code readers only?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NEW-Opel-Vauxhall-Tech2-USB-Tech-Diagnostic-OBD2-EOBD-/280613344889?pt=UK_Diagnostic_Tools_Equipment&hash=item4155dbd679


It just looks to be a more recent version of my 'cheapo Tech II' It'll just read codes, reset them & reset an airbag light.  ;)
Title: Re: "Tech2" on ebay
Post by: robg1984 on 02 February 2011, 22:02:25
Im unsure as the describtions not very good but ive got this   

 (i know its a bit more expensive) and im still tryin to get me head round it but its a good bit off kit and i recall seein a cruise control section on it as i was wanderin through!

admin edit as that is an illegal pirate clone, and so breaks guidelines.  Please no links to obtaining chinese cloned "My Naff Code Reader"'s
Title: Re: "Tech2" on ebay
Post by: Entwood on 02 February 2011, 22:03:07
A "true" tech 2 is several thousand pounds.

A decent code reader is around £60-100

Just what do you expect to get for less than £10 ???

And when the "title" says vauxhall .. but the write up says BMW   and it comes from China ..... :(

Title: Re: "Tech2" on ebay
Post by: Fitzcarraldo on 02 February 2011, 22:04:49
Too good to be true... worth asking though!
Title: Re: "Tech2" on ebay
Post by: Andy B on 02 February 2011, 22:08:06
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Too good to be true... worth asking though!

for £10 you could chance your arm. If it diagnosed a code for you it would have paid for itself 8 or 9 times over compared with codes read at 'my' dealer. ;)
Title: Re: "Tech2" on ebay
Post by: Fitzcarraldo on 02 February 2011, 22:08:18
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Im unsure as the describtions not very good but ive got this  (i know its a bit more expensive) and im still tryin to get me head round it but its a good bit off kit and i recall seein a cruise control section on it as i was wanderin through!

Looks interesting. Had a read but couldn't see anything on cruise control? I'll probably just stump up the money and go down to the dealers/stealers
Title: Re: "Tech2" on ebay
Post by: robg1984 on 02 February 2011, 22:11:08
Whats up with ya cruise control for ya to be looking at a reader?
Title: Re: "Tech2" on ebay
Post by: Andy B on 02 February 2011, 22:23:25
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Whats up with ya cruise control for ya to be looking at a reader?

I'd guess he doesn't have it, but would like it!  ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: "Tech2" on ebay
Post by: Kevin Wood on 02 February 2011, 22:30:21
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Im unsure as the describtions not very good but ive got this     (i know its a bit more expensive) and im still tryin to get me head round it but its a good bit off kit and i recall seein a cruise control section on it as i was wanderin through!

Looks interesting. Had a read but couldn't see anything on cruise control? I'll probably just stump up the money and go down to the dealers/stealers

Tech 2 is the only reliable way to enable cruise. Certainly beyond the capabilities of this device, I'm afraid.

Kevin
Title: Re: "Tech2" on ebay
Post by: Boditza on 03 February 2011, 06:15:04
isn't there a difference between tech2 and "My Naff Code Reader"(vxcom)?? this looks like "My Naff Code Reader" but i highly doubt that it will be any good
Title: Re: "Tech2" on ebay
Post by: Entwood on 03 February 2011, 09:32:53
Genuine Vauxhall Tech2 ....  £thousands

http://www.auto-diagnostics.info/opel_tech2

Genuine vaux-com ..... £640

http://www.ilexa.co.uk/diagnostic-tools/vaux-com/vaux-com-hardware-details.html

Cheap chinese copies ???  Anywhere on e-bay

Guaranteed to work ??.....   nope ..


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Title: Re: "Tech2" on ebay
Post by: Kevin Wood on 03 February 2011, 09:43:19
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isn't there a difference between tech2 and "My Naff Code Reader"(vxcom)?? this looks like "My Naff Code Reader" but i highly doubt that it will be any good

Oh, yes, a huge difference!

This is a proper Tech 2 :

http://www.auto-diagnostics.info/opel_tech2

It is a proper dealer network service tool fully supported by GM.

Anything else on the market will be based on either the generic OBD protocols which allow only very basic code reading and live data, or on reverse-engineering the GM proprietary interfaces for doing more in-depth work such as firmware updates, key pairing and feature enable/disable.

This means that, whist some might have more advanced features, no other tools are really thrustworthy when it comes to programming systems in a car, because you're relying on a guy observing what a Tech 2 does and trying to figure out how to implement it himself. It is not unknown for ECUs to be bricked (rendered useless) by such tools due to errors in the implementation.

"My Naff Code Reader" is one of the better tools in this category but it is not marketed by that name in the UK so if you see it offered for sale you're buying either a ripped-off copy that isn't trustworthy or something else entirely sold under the "My Naff Code Reader" name.

I forget who markets the proper tool in the UK and under what name but suffice to say it's priced in the £500 region.

Kevin
Title: Re: "Tech2" on ebay
Post by: Kevin Wood on 03 February 2011, 09:44:22
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Genuine vaux-com ..... £640
:(

Ahh. That's the name I was trying to remember. :y

Kevin
Title: Re: "Tech2" on ebay
Post by: Entwood on 03 February 2011, 09:44:55
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isn't there a difference between tech2 and "My Naff Code Reader"(vxcom)?? this looks like "My Naff Code Reader" but i highly doubt that it will be any good

Oh, yes, a huge difference!

This is a proper Tech 2 :

http://www.auto-diagnostics.info/opel_tech2

It is a proper dealer network service tool fully supported by GM.

Anything else on the market will be based on either the generic OBD protocols which allow only very basic code reading and live data, or on reverse-engineering the GM proprietary interfaces for doing more in-depth work such as firmware updates, key pairing and feature enable/disable.

This means that, whist some might have more advanced features, no other tools are really thrustworthy when it comes to programming systems in a car, because you're relying on a guy observing what a Tech 2 does and trying to figure out how to implement it himself. It is not unknown for ECUs to be bricked (rendered useless) by such tools due to errors in the implementation.

"My Naff Code Reader" is one of the better tools in this category but it is not marketed by that name in the UK so if you see it offered for sale you're buying either a ripped-off copy that isn't trustworthy or something else entirely sold under the "My Naff Code Reader" name.

I forget who markets the proper tool in the UK and under what name but suffice to say it's priced in the £500 region.

Kevin

See lower link in post above yours .. :)
Title: Re: "Tech2" on ebay
Post by: Fitzcarraldo on 04 February 2011, 15:59:26
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Whats up with ya cruise control for ya to be looking at a reader?

I'd guess he doesn't have it, but would like it!  ;) ;) ;)

Correct! I've got a GLS poverty spec. I've bought and fitted both the cruise stalk and clutch switch. Going to get booked in the the local dealer soon to activate it. That is unless there's someone else on here in N.I. that has a Tech2 (highly unlikely).

Thanks to everyone for all the help and info.  :D