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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: P6UL K on 04 February 2011, 11:38:40

Title: Wiring Woes...
Post by: P6UL K on 04 February 2011, 11:38:40
I've been slowly doing a few bits this week, one of which was trying to remove the police loom that was left behind in the car.

Now i've done most of it, i stumbled across the very badly installed VX car alarm.  In the picture below can anyone tell me what the little 2 pin plug socket to the far left of the box is for?  There was a short length of wire that had been pulled apart attached to it:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0603/billycabrio/Vauxhall%20Omega%20Estate%20V6/2011-02-01001.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0603/billycabrio/Vauxhall%20Omega%20Estate%20V6/2011-02-01002.jpg)

I also found this in the back of the little cubbyhole to the right of the steering wheel:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0603/billycabrio/Vauxhall%20Omega%20Estate%20V6/03022011246.jpg)

Any ideas?

I've also been sorting out the multi-plugs around the head unit with some un-butchered ones as supplied by RobG  :y  But i am stuck as to what this plug does?

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0603/billycabrio/Vauxhall%20Omega%20Estate%20V6/2011-02-01004.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0603/billycabrio/Vauxhall%20Omega%20Estate%20V6/2011-02-01005.jpg)

Everything else is accounted for....

And lastly, what does this plug do?  As the seats i've just bought off of Rob (Lincs Robert) don't have the extra socket as the seats that i got off of RobG had:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0603/billycabrio/Vauxhall%20Omega%20Estate%20V6/03022011245.jpg)

Thank you!  :y

Title: Re: Wiring Woes...
Post by: Kevin Wood on 04 February 2011, 11:40:45
As a completely uneducated guess, I would say that connector is for an antenna used to pick up a signal from a keyfob or transponder.

Especially if a piece of wire that went nowhere was connected to it (to act as an antenna).

Like I say, though. A guess.

The extra plug for the head unit does the steering wheel controls, communication with the MID/CID/GID/TID, potentially CD changer interface and phone kit / telematics. Probably surplus to requirements if it doesn't have the factory head unit any more.

I'll have a think about that connector under the seat.

Kevin
Title: Re: Wiring Woes...
Post by: P6UL K on 04 February 2011, 11:58:53
Thanks Kevin, i'd guessed that the wire from the alarm box was maybe for an l.e.d as there isn't one in the car for the alarm, also the alarm is set by double locking the car with the key remote.

I thought that's what the connector might be for, i'm still trying to suss out why the display below the time/date doesn't work - One light comes on when i start the car and thats it!
Title: Re: Wiring Woes...
Post by: RobG on 04 February 2011, 12:04:17
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Thanks Kevin, i'd guessed that the wire from the alarm box was maybe for an l.e.d as there isn't one in the car for the alarm, also the alarm is set by double locking the car with the key remote.

I thought that's what the connector might be for, i'm still trying to suss out why the display below the time/date doesn't work - One light comes on when i start the car and thats it![/quote]

Being a plod......that`s all you get
http://images.omegaowners.com/images/faq/display_types/tid.jpg
Title: Re: Wiring Woes...
Post by: P6UL K on 04 February 2011, 12:12:30
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Thanks Kevin, i'd guessed that the wire from the alarm box was maybe for an l.e.d as there isn't one in the car for the alarm, also the alarm is set by double locking the car with the key remote.

I thought that's what the connector might be for, i'm still trying to suss out why the display below the time/date doesn't work - One light comes on when i start the car and thats it![/quote]

Being a plod......that`s all you get
http://images.omegaowners.com/images/faq/display_types/tid.jpg

Oh really?  Any reason you know off why that is?  Curious, at least i get 'a' light  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wiring Woes...
Post by: RobG on 04 February 2011, 12:14:56
Triple Info Display fitted (TID) as per GLS models. Bottom section will display some warning symbols
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1153215783
Title: Re: Wiring Woes...
Post by: P6UL K on 05 February 2011, 01:18:41
Thanks RobG  :y

Any more for any more....?  :)
Title: Re: Wiring Woes...
Post by: P6UL K on 08 February 2011, 16:11:22
Guys....?
Title: Re: Wiring Woes...
Post by: RobG on 08 February 2011, 16:55:14
Seat plug possibly for variable temp on the heater pads :-/
Title: Re: Wiring Woes...
Post by: P6UL K on 08 February 2011, 17:16:12
Rob i should just email you directly lol  ;D

Do you know what each individual plug does that the seat connector has?

Might explain why the seats i had off of Robert were constantly HOT! ha ha!  Earlier ones didn't have the variable temp controller did they?  Just an on/off?
Title: Re: Wiring Woes...
Post by: RobG on 08 February 2011, 17:17:47
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Rob i should just email you directly lol  ;D

Do you know what each individual plug does that the seat connector has? Nope
Might explain why the seats i had off of Robert were constantly HOT! ha ha!  Earlier ones didn't have the variable temp controller did they?  Just an on/off?
Nope.....only facelift
Title: Re: Wiring Woes...
Post by: Kevin Wood on 08 February 2011, 17:18:45
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Rob i should just email you directly lol  ;D

Do you know what each individual plug does that the seat connector has?

Might explain why the seats i had off of Robert were constantly HOT! ha ha!  Earlier ones didn't have the variable temp controller did they?  Just an on/off?

Yep. Facelift seats had an electronic controller which took a signal from the control on the dash, and power from the main feed to the seat. They have an 8 pin connector with 2 rows of 4 IIRC. I might be wrong. The seat connectors are a bit difficult to fathom from the diagrams IMHO.

EDIT: I was wrong. It's 8 Pins, all in line in groups of 2. Can't see what your "spare" connector was for though. :-/

Kevin
Title: Re: Wiring Woes...
Post by: P6UL K on 08 February 2011, 17:31:46
Ok thanks Rob/Kevin  :y

Any further thoughts on the first 3 pictures?
Title: Re: Wiring Woes...
Post by: I_want_an_Omega on 08 February 2011, 17:49:39
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Rob i should just email you directly lol  ;D

Do you know what each individual plug does that the seat connector has?

Might explain why the seats i had off of Robert were constantly HOT! ha ha!  Earlier ones didn't have the variable temp controller did they?  Just an on/off?

Wot, both seats? The heated driver seat didn't work at all in the donor vehicle IIRC and the pass seat did work - but not that hot ...  :question
Title: Re: Wiring Woes...
Post by: 05omegav6 on 08 February 2011, 19:21:48
Right, the plug under the seat is for the seat belt pre-tensioner. :y

Although the spots on the wire would suggest otherwise.  :-/

Might be worth chasing in to the loom a bit to confirm that it is still connected as expected.

HTH,

Al. :y
Title: Re: Wiring Woes...
Post by: P6UL K on 08 February 2011, 22:17:27
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Rob i should just email you directly lol  ;D

Do you know what each individual plug does that the seat connector has?

Might explain why the seats i had off of Robert were constantly HOT! ha ha!  Earlier ones didn't have the variable temp controller did they?  Just an on/off?

Wot, both seats? The heated driver seat didn't work at all in the donor vehicle IIRC and the pass seat did work - but not that hot ...  :question

Hi Rob, well to be honest it was just the passenger seat plugged in as the woman was complaining that it was 'too' hot! Never happy!! ha ha

They were only in the car for a day before i sold them on as i've tracked some (all be it) cloth Recaros  8-)  I'll keep these until some black leather ones come up.  :y
Title: Re: Wiring Woes...
Post by: P6UL K on 08 February 2011, 22:24:40
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Right, the plug under the seat is for the seat belt pre-tensioner. :y

Although the spots on the wire would suggest otherwise.  :-/

Might be worth chasing in to the loom a bit to confirm that it is still connected as expected.

HTH,

Al. :y

I think you maybe right, would explain why the air bag light was lit on on the dashboard, also the seats i think were from a mini facelift as i now recall Rob saying about the mechanical pretensioners - my memory is so bad! :-/
Title: Re: Wiring Woes...
Post by: I_want_an_Omega on 09 February 2011, 14:22:56
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Rob i should just email you directly lol  ;D

Do you know what each individual plug does that the seat connector has?

Might explain why the seats i had off of Robert were constantly HOT! ha ha!  Earlier ones didn't have the variable temp controller did they?  Just an on/off?

Wot, both seats? The heated driver seat didn't work at all in the donor vehicle IIRC and the pass seat did work - but not that hot ...  :question

Hi Rob, well to be honest it was just the passenger seat plugged in as the woman was complaining that it was 'too' hot! Never happy!! ha ha

They were only in the car for a day before i sold them on as i've tracked some (all be it) cloth Recaros  8-)  I'll keep these until some black leather ones come up.  :y

Wow, that was quick - 4 owners in as many weeks. How did you sell them? Did you keep the rears?
Title: Re: Wiring Woes...
Post by: Julian James on 09 February 2011, 15:26:00
I think that plug under the seat in the bottom pic is definately the Airbag connector!
The seatbelt pretensioners are integrated somehow i think, so Taxi Al could be right about that.

I have litterally just come in from snapping mine!!  :-/
Mine are yellow though, with the same purple bit on.  I'm looking for help, but won't hijack this thread; I'm about to start a new one.  Little bummed tbh, cos I can't go anywhere with it unplugged, otherwise the airbag light will go on permanently like it has in yours!!
Title: Re: Wiring Woes...
Post by: Kevin Wood on 09 February 2011, 15:49:52
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I think that plug under the seat in the bottom pic is definately the Airbag connector!
The seatbelt pretensioners are integrated somehow i think, so Taxi Al could be right about that.

I have litterally just come in from snapping mine!!  :-/
Mine are yellow though, with the same purple bit on.  I'm looking for help, but won't hijack this thread; I'm about to start a new one.  Little bummed tbh, cos I can't go anywhere with it unplugged, otherwise the airbag light will go on permanently like it has in yours!!

That was my first thought but the colour coding is wrong.

Kevin
Title: Re: Wiring Woes...
Post by: P6UL K on 09 February 2011, 16:48:45
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Rob i should just email you directly lol  ;D

Do you know what each individual plug does that the seat connector has?

Might explain why the seats i had off of Robert were constantly HOT! ha ha!  Earlier ones didn't have the variable temp controller did they?  Just an on/off?

Wot, both seats? The heated driver seat didn't work at all in the donor vehicle IIRC and the pass seat did work - but not that hot ...  :question

Hi Rob, well to be honest it was just the passenger seat plugged in as the woman was complaining that it was 'too' hot! Never happy!! ha ha

They were only in the car for a day before i sold them on as i've tracked some (all be it) cloth Recaros  8-)  I'll keep these until some black leather ones come up.  :y

Wow, that was quick - 4 owners in as many weeks. How did you sell them? Did you keep the rears?

Yes kept the rears mate, their all happy now they are installed.  I got a random message thru ebay and sold them within 36hrs!
Title: Re: Wiring Woes...
Post by: 05omegav6 on 09 February 2011, 18:48:56
That plug WAS definitely for the drivers seat pretensioner. :y

BUT the silver bands would suggest that the wire had been hijacked for an alternative purpose? :-/

Do you still have the original seat, to see where the corresponding wires went to? :-/

If they go to the pretensioner, then all is well. :y

HTH,
Al. :y