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Title: 3.2 cam-belt Replacement
Post by: snookski on 05 March 2011, 20:30:25
does any-body have any advise for me reguarding changing my cambelt, have priced up the parts needed, belt kit, water pump??? may-be, plus new mutli groove belt, £217, spoke to my local Vauxhall at Bridgwater they want £375  :-/ for fitting belt kit, local independent garage wants £508 fitted  :o wow are this prices the norm or are they taking the mick ???
Title: Re: 3.2 cam-belt Replacement
Post by: feeutfo on 05 March 2011, 20:43:25
Conti tech, gates, skf, are all oe suppliers, check thier prices from a factors. Buypartsby for instance. Cheaper than dealers.

Diy is cheapest, but you'll need a cam belt locking/setting kit to change it accurately, its not a case of just changing the parts, its got go be set correctly. Hence the prices, £375 not too bad, although one of the guys on here will be cheaper i guess.

Dvd on the job in club shop, if your even remotely mechanicaly minded....?
Title: Re: 3.2 cam-belt Replacement
Post by: feeutfo on 05 March 2011, 20:44:42
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Conti tech, gates, skf, are all oe suppliers, check thier prices from a factors. Buypartsby for instance. Cheaper than dealers.

Diy is cheapest, but you'll need a cam belt locking/setting kit to change it accurately, its not a case of just changing the parts, its got go be set correctly. Hence the prices, £375 not too bad, although one of the guys on here will be cheaper i guess.

Dvd on the job in club shop, if your even remotely mechanicaly minded....?

Although not cheap if parts supplied.  :-/
Title: Re: 3.2 cam-belt Replacement
Post by: charlieboy on 05 March 2011, 21:14:32
one or two mechanics on the forum will do this for you cheaper than you have been quoted, Daz did mine (2.6 though) la st week, I travelled 200 miles there to get it done and still saved money... can throughly recommend Daz to do the job.....
Title: Re: 3.2 cam-belt Replacement
Post by: Andy H on 05 March 2011, 21:24:20
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one or two mechanics on the forum will do this for you cheaper than you have been quoted, Daz did mine (2.6 though) la st week, I travelled 200 miles there to get it done and still saved money... can throughly recommend Daz to do the job.....
I thought the 3.2 & 2.6 cambelts and tensioners were the same (assuming similar engine number/age)
Title: Re: 3.2 cam-belt Replacement
Post by: VXL V6 on 05 March 2011, 21:26:56
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one or two mechanics on the forum will do this for you cheaper than you have been quoted, Daz did mine (2.6 though) la st week, I travelled 200 miles there to get it done and still saved money... can throughly recommend Daz to do the job.....
I thought the 3.2 & 2.6 cambelts and tensioners were the same (assuming similar engine number/age)

Yep!
Title: Re: 3.2 cam-belt Replacement
Post by: snookski on 05 March 2011, 21:28:06
thanks for the info, me and a friend are thinking about doing it, well he is more than i am
Title: Re: 3.2 cam-belt Replacement
Post by: RobG on 05 March 2011, 21:28:34
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one or two mechanics on the forum will do this for you cheaper than you have been quoted, Daz did mine (2.6 though) la st week, I travelled 200 miles there to get it done and still saved money... can throughly recommend Daz to do the job.....
I thought the 3.2 & 2.6 cambelts and tensioners were the same (assuming similar engine number/age)
They are
2.5/2.6/3.0/3.2 08300419 to 08578511 9201887 £134.00 £120.60 £108.76

 
2.5/2.6/3.0/3.2 from 08578512 93172354 £138.00 £124.20 £109.43
Title: Re: 3.2 cam-belt Replacement
Post by: Crazycarzowner on 05 March 2011, 22:00:42
Elite Pete did mine the other day and I can thoroughly recommend him to do a good job. He's in Northwich if that's any help.  :y :y :y
Title: Re: 3.2 cam-belt Replacement
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 05 March 2011, 23:59:16
I'm doing my 3.2 cambelt tomorrow.

If you do it - you'll need a locking kit.

Borrow mine if you want.

If you're not confident in doing it, contact one of the mobile mechanics on here...
Title: Re: 3.2 cam-belt Replacement
Post by: snookski on 06 March 2011, 07:58:48
thanks once again for any advice, jamesv6cdx whats all that about a free cambelt change which pops up on your posts, and thanks for the offer to use your locking tools :), i would'nt be happy for my mate to use tip-ex as he thinks he is :-X :-X
Title: Re: 3.2 cam-belt Replacement
Post by: Jimbob on 06 March 2011, 08:43:56
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thanks once again for any advice, jamesv6cdx whats all that about a free cambelt change which pops up on your posts, and thanks for the offer to use your locking tools :), i would'nt be happy for my mate to use tip-ex as he thinks he is :-X :-X


a very very very bad idea on a V6.. you NEED the locking and timing kit.
Title: Re: 3.2 cam-belt Replacement
Post by: feeutfo on 06 March 2011, 10:57:28
It is possible to change the belt kit without a locking kit.

It is NOT possible to do it accurately though, is full of potential disasters and will take an awfull lot longer than with the correct cam and crank locks.

Either way tip ex is no good to anyone.
Title: Re: 3.2 cam-belt Replacement
Post by: feeutfo on 06 March 2011, 11:07:33
Note 2cam locks, crank lock at the bottom of the picture locked onto the water pump. Setting gauge at the top resting in the v


(http://i344.photobucket.com/albums/p326/chrisgixer/10102008226.jpg)
Title: Re: 3.2 cam-belt Replacement
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 06 March 2011, 11:13:38
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jamesv6cdx whats all that about a free cambelt change which pops up on your posts,

It's a job I rather enjoy, so catch me in a good mood with some free time, and I might just do it for you  :D *

* You provide parts, of course!
Title: Re: 3.2 cam-belt Replacement
Post by: Big_Roger on 06 March 2011, 13:47:07
Hi,
For your 3.2 make sure you get the later type kit no 93172354.

I have found that some of the "cheaper" suppliers either don't know or perhaps care to check out the correct part for the 2.6 & 3.2 engines.

The earlier kit can be made to fit, but it doesn't get the top RH idler in the correct position to prevent a harmonic whine that aparently could occur on cambelts on 2.5 or 3.0 engines.

Regards

Roger

Title: Re: 3.2 cam-belt Replacement
Post by: Malcolm_D on 06 March 2011, 18:08:07
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thanks once again for any advice, jamesv6cdx whats all that about a free cambelt change which pops up on your posts, and thanks for the offer to use your locking tools :), i would'nt be happy for my mate to use tip-ex as he thinks he is :-X :-X

Not a route to take under any circumstances. Did my old 2.5 after watching Daz on my 2.6 and even with a proper locking kit (cheers Cliff), the DVD and lots of patience it was a challenging task. I have done several other cars before Carltons, clits, my S80 using tippex and counting teeth, I would NEVER do the omega V6 without the kit.  :y
Title: Re: 3.2 cam-belt Replacement
Post by: snookski on 06 March 2011, 21:19:26
jamesV6cdx what do i have to do to catch you in the right  mood ;D ;D your offer is to kind :y what part of the world are you in??
Title: Re: 3.2 cam-belt Replacement
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 06 March 2011, 21:20:11
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jamesV6cdx what do i have to do to catch you in the right  mood ;D ;D your offer is to kind :y what part of the world are you in??

Stella is usually a good start  ;D

I'm in Gloucestershire, where are you?
Title: Re: 3.2 cam-belt Replacement
Post by: snookski on 06 March 2011, 21:25:35
im in Puriton just outside Bridgwater Jun 23 M5 :D
Title: Re: 3.2 cam-belt Replacement
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 06 March 2011, 21:30:38
Ah.... as local as it gets!

Tell you what - you cover the fuel and I'll trundle on down and give you a hand  :y
Title: Re: 3.2 cam-belt Replacement
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 06 March 2011, 21:33:01
Just checked - it's 70 miles each way, so 140 mile round trip.

£30 of fuel in the 3.2 will cover it - so that's what it'll cost, if you'd like me to come give you a hand.

Just let me know which weekends you're around?  :y

Edited - typo!
Title: Re: 3.2 cam-belt Replacement
Post by: Andy B on 06 March 2011, 21:34:36
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Just checked - it's 70 miles each way, so £140 round trip........

I didn't think the 3.2 was THAT thirsty!  ;) ;) ;D ;D
Title: Re: 3.2 cam-belt Replacement
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 06 March 2011, 21:36:24
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Just checked - it's 70 miles each way, so £140 round trip........

I didn't think the 3.2 was THAT thirsty!  ;) ;) ;D ;D


Haha, typo!!

Just to clarify, round trip is 140 miles, so cost of fuel in region of £30  ;D
Title: Re: 3.2 cam-belt Replacement
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 06 March 2011, 22:11:09
PMs exchanged - cambelt kit being replaced either this weekend, or next :y