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Title: FL Climate Panel Part No. Which one.
Post by: zirk on 07 March 2011, 16:43:59
Can anyone confirm the early FL Climate Panel Part Number please, if they have one laying around, or even the later type number, so I can eliminate them from my inquiries. I assume later ones would be off 2.2,2.6 and 3.2.

I know what your thinking but I dont want to rip it all out twice, but source one and get the job done in one go.

Cheers Chris.  ;)
Title: Re: FL Climate Panel Part No. Comfirmation.
Post by: markrl on 07 March 2011, 17:03:33
Chris

According to my EPC looks like the part number is 9105065. I would need your vin number to be 100% sure. According to the EPC there are 3 possible versions for a facelift the above number is the earliest one. I would check with the vin filter to be completely sure.  :y
Title: Re: FL Climate Panel Part No. Which one.
Post by: zirk on 07 March 2011, 17:15:10
Thanks Mark, I'll dig out the Vin and pm it if thats ok, I knew there were 2 versions but not 3, I know that the later ones had extra features for the Air Circulation bit and Auto Co2 internal sense.

Chris. :y
Title: Re: FL Climate Panel Part No. Which one.
Post by: Elite Pete on 07 March 2011, 17:22:10
I've got a couple of mint ones here Chris depending on what part number you need ;)
Title: Re: FL Climate Panel Part No. Which one.
Post by: zirk on 07 March 2011, 17:29:03
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I've got a couple of mint ones here Chris depending on what part number you need ;)

Thanks Pete, think I may have sourced one locally, subject to P/N, but I'll bear that in mind.

Cheers Chris.  ;)
Title: Re: FL Climate Panel Part No. Which one.
Post by: markrl on 07 March 2011, 17:33:16
I know that on the pre facelift models there are two different digital climate panels both physically the same but the late one has a small yellow dot sticker stuck on the back for identification. If you fit the wrong panel you get the -- -- on the display briefly indicating a problem.    
Title: Re: FL Climate Panel Part No. Which one.
Post by: zirk on 07 March 2011, 17:42:47
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I know that on the pre facelift models there are two different digital climate panels both physically the same but the late one has a small yellow dot sticker stuck on the back for identification. If you fit the wrong panel you get the -- -- on the display briefly indicating a problem.    

Thanks, Mark, Im talking only Facelift models.
Title: Re: FL Climate Panel Part No. Which one.
Post by: markrl on 07 March 2011, 17:43:12
Chris,

According to your vin you have a model year 2000 4 door saloon and the above panel number is correct 9105065.  :y
Title: Re: FL Climate Panel Part No. Which one.
Post by: zirk on 07 March 2011, 17:44:43
Thanks again Mark.
 :y :y :y
Chris.
Title: Re: FL Climate Panel Part No. Which one.
Post by: markrl on 07 March 2011, 17:52:24
Your welcome  ;)

If your looking for a replacement panel bear in mind what I said about the prefacelift panels. GM identify the later ones by a coloured dot on the back. Obviously you need an early one (without the dot).  :-X
Title: Re: FL Climate Panel Part No. Which one.
Post by: TheBoy on 07 March 2011, 17:57:05
They are all interchangable (obviously not between pfl and fl).

PFL ones have config settings for saloon/estate, all have configs for other options (LHD/RHD, units, additional pump etc etc). Needs Tech2 to reconfig panel.
Title: Re: FL Climate Panel Part No. Which one.
Post by: zirk on 07 March 2011, 18:06:40
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They are all interchangable (obviously not between pfl and fl).

PFL ones have config settings for saloon/estate, all have configs for other options (LHD/RHD, units, additional pump etc etc). Needs Tech2 to reconfig panel.

So even if I get the right p/n for an early FL, it could still be configured wrong, would it work though, even temporary, Im bl**dy freezing at night and have to have the windows open slightly to stop the screen from misting up. 
Title: Re: FL Climate Panel Part No. Which one.
Post by: TheBoy on 07 March 2011, 18:11:41
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They are all interchangable (obviously not between pfl and fl).

PFL ones have config settings for saloon/estate, all have configs for other options (LHD/RHD, units, additional pump etc etc). Needs Tech2 to reconfig panel.

So even if I get the right p/n for an early FL, it could still be configured wrong, would it work though, even temporary, Im bl**dy freezing at night and have to have the windows open slightly to stop the screen from misting up. 
Is yours a facelift then? If so, dont worry too much about PN.
Title: Re: FL Climate Panel Part No. Which one.
Post by: zirk on 07 March 2011, 18:16:54
Yep, this ones a 2000 FL, but I do remember a while back messing with a 3.2 it had a different part number.
Title: Re: FL Climate Panel Part No. Which one.
Post by: markrl on 07 March 2011, 18:23:59
I know that when I replaced a late pre facelift panel with an identical early one it seemed to work but the display would show -- -- briefly upon startup. Both panels were from a saloon. When I then swapped it out for a late panel with a similar yellow dot on the back (EPC shows a VIN breakpoint) it worked perfectly.

Needless to say my local Vauxhall dealer tried to tell me that a new unit needed to be electronically paired which was clearly wrong. I assume the yellow dot indicated later firmware as both appeared otherwise identical.   
Title: Re: FL Climate Panel Part No. Which one.
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 07 March 2011, 18:27:33
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Yep, this ones a 2000 FL, but I do remember a while back messing with a 3.2 it had a different part number.

Correct and the later part code replaces the older one (the older one had the intermittent issue with the internal re-circ setting it self on startup).

I.e. they both work fine
Title: Re: FL Climate Panel Part No. Which one.
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 07 March 2011, 18:28:15
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I know that when I replaced a late pre facelift panel with an identical early one it seemed to work but the display would show -- -- briefly upon startup. Both panels were from a saloon. When I then swapped it out for a late panel with a similar yellow dot on the back (EPC shows a VIN breakpoint) it worked perfectly.

Needless to say my local Vauxhall dealer tried to tell me that a new unit needed to be electronically paired which was clearly wrong. I assume the yellow dot indicated later firmware as both appeared otherwise identical.   

The -- means fault codes are stored
Title: Re: FL Climate Panel Part No. Which one.
Post by: markrl on 07 March 2011, 18:33:23
Mark when I swapped the panels the -- -- fault indication cleared immeadiatly. I assumed I had fitted a panel with the wrong firmware as it was an earlier one with a different part number.
Title: Re: FL Climate Panel Part No. Which one.
Post by: zirk on 07 March 2011, 18:35:09
Cheers Mark  :y and Mark   :y
Title: Re: FL Climate Panel Part No. Which one.
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 07 March 2011, 18:39:22
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Mark when I swapped the panels the -- -- fault indication cleared immeadiatly. I assumed I had fitted a panel with the wrong firmware as it was an earlier one with a different part number.

As you would expect if the second panel had no stored fault codes.
Title: Re: FL Climate Panel Part No. Which one.
Post by: markrl on 07 March 2011, 18:47:33
Mark as a matter of interest would a fault indication clear itself after a set number of sucessful starts with no fault present or would it need to be removed with Tech 2 ?
Title: Re: FL Climate Panel Part No. Which one.
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 07 March 2011, 19:03:21
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Mark as a matter of interest would a fault indication clear itself after a set number of sucessful starts with no fault present or would it need to be removed with Tech 2 ?

Not on the climate panel, on the engine ECU yes but even then its very dependent on which code it is (as some dont ever reset without a decent scan tool)