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Title: How much would you pay advice please
Post by: Raymienets on 21 April 2011, 16:18:55
How much would you expect to pay a garage to replace and refit a torque converter. Seen one garage down south which was charging less than half the price I have been quoted. Getting the feeling someone is tryin to con me. Maybe not will go with your opinion.
Title: Re: How much would you pay advice please
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 21 April 2011, 16:23:50
Eh, a failed torque convertor, your having a laugh.

If it is gone then the internals of the box are going to aheva  lot of sharp pointy bits in them.

I would say a 2-3 hour job with a gearbox stand and ramps.
Title: Re: How much would you pay advice please
Post by: MutantCav on 21 April 2011, 16:27:39
Maybe 4 hours labour...cant imagine you needing to replace much other than the seal and maybe the thrust bearings thingies... and some fluid...
Title: Re: How much would you pay advice please
Post by: Raymienets on 21 April 2011, 16:27:51
Not having a laugh been told it needs replacing. I only want to have an idea how much its gonna cost
Title: Re: How much would you pay advice please
Post by: Raymienets on 21 April 2011, 16:28:34
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Maybe 4 hours labour...cant imagine you needing to replace much other than the seal and maybe the thrust bearings thingies... and some fluid...


Price
Title: Re: How much would you pay advice please
Post by: Raymienets on 21 April 2011, 16:32:31
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Eh, a failed torque convertor, your having a laugh.

If it is gone then the internals of the box are going to aheva  lot of sharp pointy bits in them.

I would say a 2-3 hour job with a gearbox stand and ramps.


Would small fragments not have ended up in the sump?
Title: Re: How much would you pay advice please
Post by: CaptainZok on 21 April 2011, 16:35:53
According to VX labour times section of TIS
Torque convertor - Remove and reinstall 2.2 hours
@ whatever your garage charges per hour.
Title: Re: How much would you pay advice please
Post by: Raymienets on 21 April 2011, 16:39:23
Would You say torque converter £150 Labour £200 and £50 fluid is a reasonable price.
Title: Re: How much would you pay advice please
Post by: ffcgary1 on 21 April 2011, 16:52:19
I have read some of your other threads on this gearbox issue and we and i have suggested that the problem you have is selector switch or electrical connection related but your still going down the route of changing the box because a "gearbox specialist has told you the box then the tc is fubered.
It is unlikley to be the tc but go ahead and spend your money if you wish, but please if you ask advice on here please take that advice first, if that then does not cure it SPEND YOUR MONEY. :-?

You were complaining that the gear box selector  flights were all lighting up at the same time, well that is selector switch not tc.
As previously diagnosed.
Title: Re: How much would you pay advice please
Post by: Andy B on 21 April 2011, 16:54:19
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Not having a laugh been told it needs replacing. I only want to have an idea how much its gonna cost

I think the point that Mark is making is, that there's nothing to break in a torque converter, it's a do-nut shaped bucket with fluid in it. Just because a garage has told you it's fubar'd doesn't mean that it is.  ;) ;)
Title: Re: How much would you pay advice please
Post by: tunnie on 21 April 2011, 16:59:24
I'll echo the above, if the torque converter has failed, its taken the box too. But i'd be interested to hear in the diagnosis which told them its failed, and its not something much more probable, like a selector switch issue!
Title: Re: How much would you pay advice please
Post by: Raymienets on 21 April 2011, 16:59:40
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I have read some of your other threads on this gearbox issue and we and i have suggested that the problem you have is selector switch or electrical connection related but your still going down the route of changing the box because a "gearbox specialist has told you the box then the tc is fubered.
It is unlikley to be the tc but go ahead and spend your money if you wish, but please if you ask advice on here please take that advice first, if that then does not cure it SPEND YOUR MONEY. :-?

You were complaining that the gear box selector  flights were all lighting up at the same time, well that is selector switch not tc.
As previously diagnosed.


Only asking a simple question have not started another thread looking to solve the problem. Only looking for a price should I need to get it replaced. What is you problem?
Title: Re: How much would you pay advice please
Post by: tunnie on 21 April 2011, 17:09:28
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I have read some of your other threads on this gearbox issue and we and i have suggested that the problem you have is selector switch or electrical connection related but your still going down the route of changing the box because a "gearbox specialist has told you the box then the tc is fubered.
It is unlikley to be the tc but go ahead and spend your money if you wish, but please if you ask advice on here please take that advice first, if that then does not cure it SPEND YOUR MONEY. :-?

You were complaining that the gear box selector  flights were all lighting up at the same time, well that is selector switch not tc.
As previously diagnosed.


Only asking a simple question have not started another thread looking to solve the problem. Only looking for a price should I need to get it replaced. What is you problem?

How about you read what is being said here?

MarksDTM, Andy, ffcgary & myself have all told you the same thing.

Its unlikey to be torque converter issue, that will take out the entire box. Its more likely its an electrical issue related to the selector switch.

You also have not said the diagnosis done, to arrive at a torque converter being faulty. 
Title: Re: How much would you pay advice please
Post by: feeutfo on 21 April 2011, 17:15:56
You won't get a price on here Ray, as by the sound of it, NOBODY HAS NEEDED TO have one changed on the omega ....perhaps.

As my previous ignored pm, and this thread,  http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1303017028.  It has been suggested perhaps multiple threads, 6 now I believe, is not helping.

Ray I have seen most of your posts on this unfortunate issue, yet I have no idea where your up to with it...? It's a bit random tbh...  :-/


Following the advice given will most likely be the best course of action, while the box may or may not be buggered, there are a few things to check first before spending an arm and a leg at a "specialist"....
Title: Re: How much would you pay advice please
Post by: RobG on 21 April 2011, 17:21:14
Ray, you received the selector switch from me this morning. Would it not be prudent to get this fitted then if that fails to eradicate your problem, then & only then, explore other avenues of investigation. :y
Title: Re: How much would you pay advice please
Post by: feeutfo on 21 April 2011, 17:21:55
Oh, and there's this one in gen chat, so thats seven  :-?
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1303230632
Title: Re: How much would you pay advice please
Post by: ffcgary1 on 21 April 2011, 17:22:00
Fortunatly i dont have a problem, but you do, you have started 6 threads regarding advice on this gearbox issue, prehaps you have not had the advice you wanted to hear so ask again.
Dont bother to ask if your not going to act on the ADVICE GIVEN.
We are trying to help you avoid getting ripped off, but..........................? :o
Title: Re: How much would you pay advice please
Post by: ffcgary1 on 21 April 2011, 17:23:44
Bugger missed that one :D
Title: Re: How much would you pay advice please
Post by: feeutfo on 21 April 2011, 17:27:12
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Would You say torque converter £150 Labour £200 and £50 fluid is a reasonable price.
In theory, they could take the car in, fit a new cam sensor for a fraction of that cost, and charge you £400 for half hours work.... Having never touched the tc, or the gear box....      (in theory  :-/ )
Title: Re: How much would you pay advice please
Post by: Omegatoy on 21 April 2011, 18:12:11
may be not the best time to mention i have had a torque converter fail, however it was on a diesel(mrs omegatoys) and it was a seam had a small hole didnt leak when standing still, but gave al the apearances of the seal had gone as it came out with a steady drip when the car was running!! changed seal, and it still leaked!oh bummocks it all had to come out again!! cleaned torque converter off, and found the tiny hole in it , it was actually behind one of the drive plate mounting bolts, so guessing someone had changed box or had box out for something, then couldnt get it to close up tight, so used the bolts to pull it in? just a theory, but its the only torque verter ive ever known to fail
jm2pw
Title: Re: How much would you pay advice please
Post by: Bent valve on 21 April 2011, 18:19:00
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may be not the best time to mention i have had a torque converter fail, however it was on a diesel(mrs omegatoys) and it was a seam had a small hole didnt leak when standing still, but gave al the apearances of the seal had gone as it came out with a steady drip when the car was running!! changed seal, and it still leaked!oh bummocks it all had to come out again!! cleaned torque converter off, and found the tiny hole in it , it was actually behind one of the drive plate mounting bolts, so guessing someone had changed box or had box out for something, then couldnt get it to close up tight, so used the bolts to pull it in? just a theory, but its the only torque verter ive ever known to fail
jm2pw
Absolutely the best time to mention it :y
Title: Re: How much would you pay advice please
Post by: ffcgary1 on 21 April 2011, 18:37:38
That is very rare indeed omegatoy but the op has not stated theat the box is leaking, it is throwing up codes and the selector lights are on at the same time, so going by what HAS BEEN POSTED IN THE 7 THREADS ON THIS ISSUE it is not a fluid leak that is the problem.

But advice is not being taken or acted on. A  replacement selector switch has been sourced but not fitted because he has been told by a "specialist" that it is the tc. ::)
Title: Re: How much would you pay advice please
Post by: Omegatoy on 21 April 2011, 19:11:45
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That is very rare indeed omegatoy but the op has not stated theat the box is leaking, it is throwing up codes and the selector lights are on at the same time, so going by what HAS BEEN POSTED IN THE 7 THREADS ON THIS ISSUE it is not a fluid leak that is the problem.

But advice is not being taken or acted on. A  replacement selector switch has been sourced but not fitted because he has been told by a "specialist" that it is the tc. ::)

having now read the entire post :'( first thing i would hit is selector switch!!!! lol
only posted about the convertor cos the post i read said they hadnt heard of one failing!! to be honest as a known autobox hater i can confess to throwing a t/c around the workshop in a fit of sheer frustration, then going for a pint , collecting it from the bottom of the pit :( fitting it and giving the car back where it ran properly for years!!!!
reason for the throwing was i was on me own, had lifted the box out replaced the driveplate, could lift the box back in no problem :o but couldnt take one hand off it to put a bolt in to hold it in place!! lol this was the 5th lift and i was getting tired and frustrated!! on a ford granada by the way 3litrev6 and box was blooming heavy!!! eventually the girlfriend turned up and although i didnt want her in the pit as it was dangerous with me holding a box in the air she came downand put the one bolt in i needed!! mind you it was midninght and i was supposed to be taking her to alton towers in the car the following morning :y
Title: Re: How much would you pay advice please
Post by: dbug on 21 April 2011, 19:22:00
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That is very rare indeed omegatoy but the op has not stated theat the box is leaking, it is throwing up codes and the selector lights are on at the same time, so going by what HAS BEEN POSTED IN THE 7 THREADS ON THIS ISSUE it is not a fluid leak that is the problem.

But advice is not being taken or acted on. A  replacement selector switch has been sourced but not fitted because he has been told by a "specialist" that it is the tc. ::)

having now read the entire post :'( first thing i would hit is selector switch!!!! lol
only posted about the convertor cos the post i read said they hadnt heard of one failing!! to be honest as a known autobox hater i can confess to throwing a t/c around the workshop in a fit of sheer frustration, then going for a pint , collecting it from the bottom of the pit :( fitting it and giving the car back where it ran properly for years!!!!
reason for the throwing was i was on me own, had lifted the box out replaced the driveplate, could lift the box back in no problem :o but couldnt take one hand off it to put a bolt in to hold it in place!! lol this was the 5th lift and i was getting tired and frustrated!! on a ford granada by the way 3litrev6 and box was blooming heavy!!! eventually the girlfriend turned up and although i didnt want her in the pit as it was dangerous with me holding a box in the air she came downand put the one bolt in i needed!! mind you it was midninght and i was supposed to be taking her to alton towers in the car the following morning :y

You're a bl**dy star mate  :) ;) ;)

By the way I agree that the op's problem is probably a mucky or furbarred selector switch.

To take autobox out, remove torque convertor, replace shaft seal, replace torque convertor and refit took me and a mate around 3½ hours.  Really needs two people because of the weight of the box.

[edit]Just re-read the post and saw the op's motor is a 4 pot - times given above for a 6 pot - more work and less access than a 4 pot.[/edit]
Title: Re: How much would you pay advice please
Post by: mrgreen on 21 April 2011, 20:05:47
go for it ray!! replace it all i think i've got a bunged up plug anyone got a spare motor hanging about ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: How much would you pay advice please
Post by: ffcgary1 on 21 April 2011, 20:08:46
Adding fuel to the fire, mrgreen ;D
Title: Re: How much would you pay advice please
Post by: feeutfo on 21 April 2011, 22:02:45
Thought he had replaced the selector switch tbh.  :-/
Title: Re: How much would you pay advice please
Post by: Broomies Mate on 21 April 2011, 22:42:30
Not meaning to jump in on something I know nothing about (I have never heard of a Torque Converter failing), BUT.......

Despite any previous threads, the OP has asked a simple question;

"How much would a Torque Converter cost to replace?"

An answer to his question would have been in the OOF spirit and at the very least, polite, would it not?

Not having a pop at anyone who has replied, and I know it is very annoying when people disregard advice from exceptionally experienced Omega owners, but c'mon!  :-/
Title: Re: How much would you pay advice please
Post by: ffcgary1 on 21 April 2011, 22:53:33
The original post was answered as to cost, by a couple of members, but those costs are to a large extent avoidable in our opinion. The main bug bear here is that a "specialist" hase misdiagnosed a faulty selector switch for a rip off job of replacing the t/c.
As to the spirit of oof then that is not in question in my opinion as we have over the courese of 7 different threads answered all his requests for advice on his gearbox issue, but still seems to think that the "specialist" is the way to go.
Myself and others think different to the "specialist" :(
Title: Re: How much would you pay advice please
Post by: Broomies Mate on 21 April 2011, 23:10:12
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The original post was answered as to cost, by a couple of members, but those costs are to a large extent avoidable in our opinion. The main bug bear here is that a "specialist" hase misdiagnosed a faulty selector switch for a rip off job of replacing the t/c.
As to the spirit of oof then that is not in question in my opinion as we have over the courese of 7 different threads answered all his requests for advice on his gearbox issue, but still seems to think that the "specialist" is the way to go.
Myself and others think different to the "specialist" :(

I dont see a price in this thread.  :-?

I agree with you, and I agree that the OP should heed the advice of the selector switch.

All I'm saying is that it would make things a LOT EASIER if people would just answer the question they have been asked rather than bloat yet another thread with things not related to the OP's original question.

Who is to say this has any relation the the other threads by the OP?  Yes, I'm being pedantic, but the initial post is simple.
Title: Re: How much would you pay advice please
Post by: CaptainZok on 21 April 2011, 23:13:17
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The original post was answered as to cost, by a couple of members, but those costs are to a large extent avoidable in our opinion. The main bug bear here is that a "specialist" hase misdiagnosed a faulty selector switch for a rip off job of replacing the t/c.
As to the spirit of oof then that is not in question in my opinion as we have over the courese of 7 different threads answered all his requests for advice on his gearbox issue, but still seems to think that the "specialist" is the way to go.
Myself and others think different to the "specialist" :(

I dont see a price in this thread.  :-?

I agree with you, and I agree that the OP should heed the advice of the selector switch.

All I'm saying is that it would make things a LOT EASIER if people would just answer the question they have been asked rather than bloat yet another thread with things not related to the OP's original question.

Who is to say this has any relation the the other threads by the OP?  Yes, I'm being pedantic, but the initial post is simple.
So giving the VX labour time at whatever the garage charges per hour isn't a price is it not?
Title: Re: How much would you pay advice please
Post by: Raymienets on 21 April 2011, 23:17:33
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Not meaning to jump in on something I know nothing about (I have never heard of a Torque Converter failing), BUT.......

Despite any previous threads, the OP has asked a simple question;

"How much would a Torque Converter cost to replace?"

An answer to his question would have been in the OOF spirit and at the very least, polite, would it not?

Not having a pop at anyone who has replied, and I know it is very annoying when people disregard advice from exceptionally experienced Omega owners, but c'mon!  :-/


Cheers mate all I wanted was a simple answer to a simple question. I understand I have been a pain in the arse regarding this gearbox issue, but was just looking at my options should every other thing else fail. Spending another £600 to get this fixed as I have been quoted seems over priced, but if folk wanna take the *iss well the forum is not what I thought.
Title: Re: How much would you pay advice please
Post by: Raymienets on 21 April 2011, 23:20:28
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The original post was answered as to cost, by a couple of members, but those costs are to a large extent avoidable in our opinion. The main bug bear here is that a "specialist" hase misdiagnosed a faulty selector switch for a rip off job of replacing the t/c.
As to the spirit of oof then that is not in question in my opinion as we have over the courese of 7 different threads answered all his requests for advice on his gearbox issue, but still seems to think that the "specialist" is the way to go.
Myself and others think different to the "specialist" :(

I dont see a price in this thread.  :-?

I agree with you, and I agree that the OP should heed the advice of the selector switch.

All I'm saying is that it would make things a LOT EASIER if people would just answer the question they have been asked rather than bloat yet another thread with things not related to the OP's original question.

Who is to say this has any relation the the other threads by the OP?  Yes, I'm being pedantic, but the initial post is simple.
So giving the VX labour time at whatever the garage charges per hour isn't a price is it not?


No
Title: Re: How much would you pay advice please
Post by: Broomies Mate on 21 April 2011, 23:22:47
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The original post was answered as to cost, by a couple of members, but those costs are to a large extent avoidable in our opinion. The main bug bear here is that a "specialist" hase misdiagnosed a faulty selector switch for a rip off job of replacing the t/c.
As to the spirit of oof then that is not in question in my opinion as we have over the courese of 7 different threads answered all his requests for advice on his gearbox issue, but still seems to think that the "specialist" is the way to go.
Myself and others think different to the "specialist" :(

I dont see a price in this thread.  :-?

I agree with you, and I agree that the OP should heed the advice of the selector switch.

All I'm saying is that it would make things a LOT EASIER if people would just answer the question they have been asked rather than bloat yet another thread with things not related to the OP's original question.

Who is to say this has any relation the the other threads by the OP?  Yes, I'm being pedantic, but the initial post is simple.
So giving the VX labour time at whatever the garage charges per hour isn't a price is it not?

I've asked for a general cost of a job on several ocassions on OOF, and I tend to get replies which have a £ symbol in them.

Not all, but the majority of replies on here essentially say "Why are you being a moron? Just change the selector switch".

Not everyone is as experienced as some on here..... not everyone has been around these parts long enough to know that the advice given is basically FACT!

This chap has possibly visited a mechanic who a close friend has recommended.  Hmmmm, who to trust, some blokes from the web, or a friends recommendation>?>>>>>??>>?>????

Lets not forget that we all offer ADVICE here.  We are not TRUSTED until that advice is acted upon several times.  You have an avenue of comeback on a Garage, you have no finincial backup from ADVICE (great or not) offered on a Forum.

Ah, I give up.
Title: Re: How much would you pay advice please
Post by: CaptainZok on 21 April 2011, 23:23:23
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The original post was answered as to cost, by a couple of members, but those costs are to a large extent avoidable in our opinion. The main bug bear here is that a "specialist" hase misdiagnosed a faulty selector switch for a rip off job of replacing the t/c.
As to the spirit of oof then that is not in question in my opinion as we have over the courese of 7 different threads answered all his requests for advice on his gearbox issue, but still seems to think that the "specialist" is the way to go.
Myself and others think different to the "specialist" :(

I dont see a price in this thread.  :-?

I agree with you, and I agree that the OP should heed the advice of the selector switch.

All I'm saying is that it would make things a LOT EASIER if people would just answer the question they have been asked rather than bloat yet another thread with things not related to the OP's original question.

Who is to say this has any relation the the other threads by the OP?  Yes, I'm being pedantic, but the initial post is simple.
So giving the VX labour time at whatever the garage charges per hour isn't a price is it not?


No
Surely you can ask the garage how much they charge per hour. The firm my lad works for it's £35 an hour so multiply by 2.2 and it's £77 + vat as a ball park figure.
Title: Re: How much would you pay advice please
Post by: Raymienets on 21 April 2011, 23:28:15
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The original post was answered as to cost, by a couple of members, but those costs are to a large extent avoidable in our opinion. The main bug bear here is that a "specialist" hase misdiagnosed a faulty selector switch for a rip off job of replacing the t/c.
As to the spirit of oof then that is not in question in my opinion as we have over the courese of 7 different threads answered all his requests for advice on his gearbox issue, but still seems to think that the "specialist" is the way to go.
Myself and others think different to the "specialist" :(

I dont see a price in this thread.  :-?

I agree with you, and I agree that the OP should heed the advice of the selector switch.

All I'm saying is that it would make things a LOT EASIER if people would just answer the question they have been asked rather than bloat yet another thread with things not related to the OP's original question.

Who is to say this has any relation the the other threads by the OP?  Yes, I'm being pedantic, but the initial post is simple.
So giving the VX labour time at whatever the garage charges per hour isn't a price is it not?

I've asked for a general cost of a job on several ocassions on OOF, and I tend to get replies which have a £ symbol in them.

Not all, but the majority of replies on here essentially say "Why are you being a moron? Just change the selector switch".

Not everyone is as experienced as some on here..... not everyone has been around these parts long enough to know that the advice given is basically FACT!

This chap has possibly visited a mechanic who a close friend has recommended.  Hmmmm, who to trust, some blokes from the web, or a friends recommendation>?>>>>>??>>?>????

Lets not forget that we all offer ADVICE here.  We are not TRUSTED until that advice is acted upon several times.  You have an avenue of comeback on a Garage, you have no finincial backup from ADVICE (great or not) offered on a Forum.

Ah, I give up.


Cheers mate you are 100% correct I am not mechanically minded and yes I did take advice from a mechanic entrusted by a friend.
Title: Re: How much would you pay advice please
Post by: Broomies Mate on 21 April 2011, 23:33:27
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The original post was answered as to cost, by a couple of members, but those costs are to a large extent avoidable in our opinion. The main bug bear here is that a "specialist" hase misdiagnosed a faulty selector switch for a rip off job of replacing the t/c.
As to the spirit of oof then that is not in question in my opinion as we have over the courese of 7 different threads answered all his requests for advice on his gearbox issue, but still seems to think that the "specialist" is the way to go.
Myself and others think different to the "specialist" :(

I dont see a price in this thread.  :-?

I agree with you, and I agree that the OP should heed the advice of the selector switch.

All I'm saying is that it would make things a LOT EASIER if people would just answer the question they have been asked rather than bloat yet another thread with things not related to the OP's original question.

Who is to say this has any relation the the other threads by the OP?  Yes, I'm being pedantic, but the initial post is simple.
So giving the VX labour time at whatever the garage charges per hour isn't a price is it not?

I've asked for a general cost of a job on several ocassions on OOF, and I tend to get replies which have a £ symbol in them.

Not all, but the majority of replies on here essentially say "Why are you being a moron? Just change the selector switch".

Not everyone is as experienced as some on here..... not everyone has been around these parts long enough to know that the advice given is basically FACT!

This chap has possibly visited a mechanic who a close friend has recommended.  Hmmmm, who to trust, some blokes from the web, or a friends recommendation>?>>>>>??>>?>????

Lets not forget that we all offer ADVICE here.  We are not TRUSTED until that advice is acted upon several times.  You have an avenue of comeback on a Garage, you have no finincial backup from ADVICE (great or not) offered on a Forum.

Ah, I give up.


Cheers mate you are 100% correct I am not mechanically minded and yes I did take advice from a mechanic entrusted by a friend.

Ok, you dont know me from Adam.  But I can tell you, as matter of fact that the TC is VERY RARELY a problem on ANY automatic.

I cant give you a price, as I dont know, but I can say you are better off taking the advice of us and replacing the Selector Switch with a KNOWN good one first.  Relatively simple job which even a novice mechanic can do with a few basic tools and *may* save you a few hundred quid.

Internet Forums are a difficult place for 'beginners'.  Hope to not offend you there.

This place is quite an exception of the rule....... you can pretty much take advice here as Gospel.  :y
Title: Re: How much would you pay advice please
Post by: Raymienets on 21 April 2011, 23:41:31
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The original post was answered as to cost, by a couple of members, but those costs are to a large extent avoidable in our opinion. The main bug bear here is that a "specialist" hase misdiagnosed a faulty selector switch for a rip off job of replacing the t/c.
As to the spirit of oof then that is not in question in my opinion as we have over the courese of 7 different threads answered all his requests for advice on his gearbox issue, but still seems to think that the "specialist" is the way to go.
Myself and others think different to the "specialist" :(

I dont see a price in this thread.  :-?

I agree with you, and I agree that the OP should heed the advice of the selector switch.

All I'm saying is that it would make things a LOT EASIER if people would just answer the question they have been asked rather than bloat yet another thread with things not related to the OP's original question.

Who is to say this has any relation the the other threads by the OP?  Yes, I'm being pedantic, but the initial post is simple.
So giving the VX labour time at whatever the garage charges per hour isn't a price is it not?

I've asked for a general cost of a job on several ocassions on OOF, and I tend to get replies which have a £ symbol in them.

Not all, but the majority of replies on here essentially say "Why are you being a moron? Just change the selector switch".

Not everyone is as experienced as some on here..... not everyone has been around these parts long enough to know that the advice given is basically FACT!

This chap has possibly visited a mechanic who a close friend has recommended.  Hmmmm, who to trust, some blokes from the web, or a friends recommendation>?>>>>>??>>?>????

Lets not forget that we all offer ADVICE here.  We are not TRUSTED until that advice is acted upon several times.  You have an avenue of comeback on a Garage, you have no finincial backup from ADVICE (great or not) offered on a Forum.

Ah, I give up.


Cheers mate you are 100% correct I am not mechanically minded and yes I did take advice from a mechanic entrusted by a friend.

Ok, you dont know me from Adam.  But I can tell you, as matter of fact that the TC is VERY RARELY a problem on ANY automatic.

I cant give you a price, as I dont know, but I can say you are better off taking the advice of us and replacing the Selector Switch with a KNOWN good one first.  Relatively simple job which even a novice mechanic can do with a few basic tools and *may* save you a few hundred quid.

Internet Forums are a difficult place for 'beginners'.  Hope to not offend you there.

This place is quite an exception of the rule....... you can pretty much take advice here as Gospel.  :y


Have already purchased the selector switch and will try and fit it in the morning and keep fingers crossed. Will report back then again maybe not.
Title: Re: How much would you pay advice please
Post by: Broomies Mate on 21 April 2011, 23:48:14
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The original post was answered as to cost, by a couple of members, but those costs are to a large extent avoidable in our opinion. The main bug bear here is that a "specialist" hase misdiagnosed a faulty selector switch for a rip off job of replacing the t/c.
As to the spirit of oof then that is not in question in my opinion as we have over the courese of 7 different threads answered all his requests for advice on his gearbox issue, but still seems to think that the "specialist" is the way to go.
Myself and others think different to the "specialist" :(

I dont see a price in this thread.  :-?

I agree with you, and I agree that the OP should heed the advice of the selector switch.

All I'm saying is that it would make things a LOT EASIER if people would just answer the question they have been asked rather than bloat yet another thread with things not related to the OP's original question.

Who is to say this has any relation the the other threads by the OP?  Yes, I'm being pedantic, but the initial post is simple.
So giving the VX labour time at whatever the garage charges per hour isn't a price is it not?

I've asked for a general cost of a job on several ocassions on OOF, and I tend to get replies which have a £ symbol in them.

Not all, but the majority of replies on here essentially say "Why are you being a moron? Just change the selector switch".

Not everyone is as experienced as some on here..... not everyone has been around these parts long enough to know that the advice given is basically FACT!

This chap has possibly visited a mechanic who a close friend has recommended.  Hmmmm, who to trust, some blokes from the web, or a friends recommendation>?>>>>>??>>?>????

Lets not forget that we all offer ADVICE here.  We are not TRUSTED until that advice is acted upon several times.  You have an avenue of comeback on a Garage, you have no finincial backup from ADVICE (great or not) offered on a Forum.

Ah, I give up.


Cheers mate you are 100% correct I am not mechanically minded and yes I did take advice from a mechanic entrusted by a friend.

Ok, you dont know me from Adam.  But I can tell you, as matter of fact that the TC is VERY RARELY a problem on ANY automatic.

I cant give you a price, as I dont know, but I can say you are better off taking the advice of us and replacing the Selector Switch with a KNOWN good one first.  Relatively simple job which even a novice mechanic can do with a few basic tools and *may* save you a few hundred quid.

Internet Forums are a difficult place for 'beginners'.  Hope to not offend you there.

This place is quite an exception of the rule....... you can pretty much take advice here as Gospel.  :y


Have already purchased the selector switch and will try and fit it in the morning and keep fingers crossed. Will report back then again maybe not.

No, please do report back. 

You have nothing to be worried about with regards to being 'worried' about advice given to you from a group of hairy arsed sweaty old men (I'm describing myself) especially when you have been offered differing advice from a 'trusted' expert.

As I said in a previous post, the advice on this forum is generally from experience and has been dealt with time and time again.

Sometimes a simple fix like yours (lets hope) has been dealt with time and time again....... some of the older folk on here dont like their advice being questioned.

At the end of the day, they are just trying to save you a few quid............... I'd like to see them do it in a different manner though, especially with new members who would benefit from a little empathy.  :y
Title: Re: How much would you pay advice please
Post by: feeutfo on 22 April 2011, 00:02:57
No experience of torque converter swap costs as said, but to give an idea, ar 35 boxes change hands on here for 50 to £100 I believe, add to that fitting costs. My experience shows removing and re fitting an auto box in order to change a crank seal can be done for £200 plus seal Which you don't need£60, plus fluid say£30?.

So, I would say your quote is shite not very good tbh, as the whole auto trans, including selector switch, tc and new aft fluid could be replaced for less.

Imo, read and clear any engine and box codes. Drive the car as briefly as possible until symptoms return. Check the codes again, to see if the codes are recent and not historic. If you see a cam sensor code, which I think you did mention was present, change the cam sensor its fairly easy, fit the selector switch and try again, if symptoms persist source another box on here second hand and find a decent mech to fit it locally@50£ an hour ish.

That way you should have a complete working box for less than your quote, not JUST a new t converter with the same possibly buggered box re fitted.
All well trodden ground on here mate, have a google, it's all on here somewhere.
Title: Re: How much would you pay advice please
Post by: Raymienets on 22 April 2011, 22:43:08
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No experience of torque converter swap costs as said, but to give an idea, ar 35 boxes change hands on here for 50 to £100 I believe, add to that fitting costs. My experience shows removing and re fitting an auto box in order to change a crank seal can be done for £200 plus seal Which you don't need£60, plus fluid say£30?.

So, I would say your quote is shite not very good tbh, as the whole auto trans, including selector switch, tc and new aft fluid could be replaced for less.

Imo, read and clear any engine and box codes. Drive the car as briefly as possible until symptoms return. Check the codes again, to see if the codes are recent and not historic. If you see a cam sensor code, which I think you did mention was present, change the cam sensor its fairly easy, fit the selector switch and try again, if symptoms persist source another box on here second hand and find a decent mech to fit it locally@50£ an hour ish.

That way you should have a complete working box for less than your quote, not JUST a new t converter with the same possibly buggered box re fitted.
All well trodden ground on here mate, have a google, it's all on here somewhere.


Thank You
Title: Re: How much would you pay advice please
Post by: RobG on 22 April 2011, 22:44:31
Switch fitted yet Ray :)
Title: Re: How much would you pay advice please
Post by: Raymienets on 22 April 2011, 23:19:06
Fitted it today havent had the car out noticed all the lights on at the same time once. Still unable to remove P0743 code though.
Title: Re: How much would you pay advice please
Post by: Raymienets on 24 April 2011, 11:54:44
Update selector switch fitted appears to de driving as an auto and not having to use it as a manual but would love to get rid of code. When putting it into reverse, reversing Lights tempramental on coming on.
Title: Re: How much would you pay advice please
Post by: Andy B on 24 April 2011, 16:48:50
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Update selector switch fitted appears to de driving as an auto and not having to use it as a manual but would love to get rid of code.
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When putting it into reverse, reversing Lights tempramental on coming on.
Sounds like an iffy connection.  :-/
Title: Re: How much would you pay advice please
Post by: RobG on 24 April 2011, 22:30:19
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Update selector switch fitted appears to de driving as an auto and not having to use it as a manual but would love to get rid of code. When putting it into reverse, reversing Lights tempramental on coming on.
Glad you`re sorted Ray. Re; reversing lights.....engage "R" get someone at the back of the car to see if the lights come on if you move the lever very slightly forwards or backwards. If the lights come on, the selector switch or the gear linkage isn`t set up right
Title: Re: How much would you pay advice please
Post by: Raymienets on 24 April 2011, 22:49:44
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Update selector switch fitted appears to de driving as an auto and not having to use it as a manual but would love to get rid of code. When putting it into reverse, reversing Lights tempramental on coming on.
Glad you`re sorted Ray. Re; reversing lights.....engage "R" get someone at the back of the car to see if the lights come on if you move the lever very slightly forwards or backwards. If the lights come on, the selector switch or the gear linkage isn`t set up right

Thats whats happening. How do I set up the gear linkage.
Title: Re: How much would you pay advice please
Post by: feeutfo on 24 April 2011, 23:00:46
Does this help?
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1267956397
Title: Re: How much would you pay advice please
Post by: Andy H on 24 April 2011, 23:02:07
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Update selector switch fitted appears to de driving as an auto and not having to use it as a manual but would love to get rid of code. When putting it into reverse, reversing Lights tempramental on coming on.
Glad you`re sorted Ray. Re; reversing lights.....engage "R" get someone at the back of the car to see if the lights come on if you move the lever very slightly forwards or backwards. If the lights come on, the selector switch or the gear linkage isn`t set up right

Thats whats happening. How do I set up the gear linkage.
As described in the guide Auto gearbox selector switch removal and cleaning (http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1267956397)
Title: Re: How much would you pay advice please
Post by: albitz on 24 April 2011, 23:05:39
Sounds like we just about got there in the end then. ;) :)
Title: Re: How much would you pay advice please
Post by: Raymienets on 24 April 2011, 23:31:03
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Sounds like we just about got there in the end then. ;) :)


Ah but still getting error codes that will not move
Title: Re: How much would you pay advice please
Post by: RobG on 24 April 2011, 23:47:46
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Update selector switch fitted appears to de driving as an auto and not having to use it as a manual but would love to get rid of code. When putting it into reverse, reversing Lights tempramental on coming on.
Glad you`re sorted Ray. Re; reversing lights.....engage "R" get someone at the back of the car to see if the lights come on if you move the lever very slightly forwards or backwards. If the lights come on, the selector switch or the gear linkage isn`t set up right

Thats whats happening. How do I set up the gear linkage.
Gear lever in "P". On the selector lever slacken the clamping bolt at the gearbox end of the link rod then pull the selector lever towards rear of car and tighten clamp bolt. If problem is still there you will need to re-adjust the selector switch.......slacken both bolts on switch, engage "R" and get someone to check for the reverse lights to illuminate why you move selector switch. When lights are on, tighten both bolts