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Title: cambelt question
Post by: cam2502 on 01 May 2011, 16:57:43
my 51 plate cdx has nearly 68k on clock, when will i need the cambelt changed?
Title: Re: cambelt question
Post by: Andy B on 01 May 2011, 17:00:21
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my 51 plate cdx has nearly 68k on clock, when will i need the cambelt changed?

within 4 yrs or 40 000 miles from the last time it was changed.  :y

ASAP if you don't know when it was last changed.  ;)
Title: Re: cambelt question
Post by: cam2502 on 01 May 2011, 17:07:15
how much would we be talking to get it changed if need be? dont mean from the stealers, mean from some nice OOF expert at a meet ;D :y
Title: Re: cambelt question
Post by: Darth Loo-knee on 01 May 2011, 17:39:14
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how much would we be talking to get it changed if need be? dont mean from the stealers, mean from some nice OOF expert at a meet ;D :y


 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
About 40 cases of Stella  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: cambelt question
Post by: ffcgary1 on 01 May 2011, 19:29:14
Cam, have you any history of when it was last changed?, if not it needs doing asap, but the cam belt MUST be renewed with all the rollers and tensioners every 40,000 or 4 years No exception, unless it is a diesel which has a chain.
Gary.
Title: Re: cambelt question
Post by: joff on 01 May 2011, 19:33:11
Don't forget the water pump at the same time ;)
Title: Re: cambelt question
Post by: Andy B on 01 May 2011, 19:42:20
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Don't forget the water pump at the same time ;)

Only if you follow the OOF crowd.  ::) ::) ::) If it aint broke/leaking don't fix it.  :y
Title: Re: cambelt question
Post by: henryd on 01 May 2011, 20:37:20
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Don't forget the water pump at the same time ;)

Only if you follow the OOF crowd.  ::) ::) ::) If it aint broke/leaking don't fix it.  :y

agreed,I wouldn't bother either unless it had play or rough bearing
Title: Re: cambelt question
Post by: Andy B on 01 May 2011, 20:45:31
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Don't forget the water pump at the same time ;)

Only if you follow the OOF crowd.  ::) ::) ::) If it aint broke/leaking don't fix it.  :y

agreed,I wouldn't bother either unless it had play or rough bearing

we'll set a trend ............ eventually!  ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: cambelt question
Post by: TheBoy on 01 May 2011, 20:45:44
Given the pumps used to be dirt cheap, and have a life of around 100k, it used to make sense to replace every other cambelt. Trouble is, they have now gone to stupid prices.


On the 2.0/2.2 petrols, it MUST be changed with every cambelt, as its cambelt driven.
Title: Re: cambelt question
Post by: Andy B on 01 May 2011, 20:46:59
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Given the pumps used to be dirt cheap, and have a life of around 100k, it used to make sense to replace every other cambelt. Trouble is, they have now gone to stupid prices.


On the 2.0/2.2 petrols, it MUST be changed with every cambelt, as its cambelt driven.

Here here!  ;) ;)
Title: Re: cambelt question
Post by: Elite Pete on 01 May 2011, 21:27:38
Ok then, so what about the CDX I broke last month, the Auxiliary belt tensioner had siezed causing the auxiliary belt to snap, parts of which made itself under the cambelt cover causing the cambelt to jump teeth and bending lots and lots of valves ::)

For the price of £35 I would buy a good pattern part one and replace it every belt change :P
Title: Re: cambelt question
Post by: henryd on 01 May 2011, 21:49:26
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Ok then, so what about the CDX I broke last month, the Auxiliary belt tensioner had siezed causing the auxiliary belt to snap, parts of which made itself under the cambelt cover causing the cambelt to jump teeth and bending lots and lots of valves ::)

For the price of £35 I would buy a good pattern part one and replace it every belt change :P

But there's always the chance of a new one failing prematurely and doing the same thing,although I see where you are coming from
Title: Re: cambelt question
Post by: Andy B on 01 May 2011, 21:50:35
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Ok then, so what about the CDX I broke last month, the Auxiliary belt tensioner had siezed causing the auxiliary belt to snap, parts of which made itself under the cambelt cover causing the cambelt to jump teeth and bending lots and lots of valves ::) ......

In life, sh1t happens.  ;) The last time my fan belt broke,it .....................er just broke & my temp gauge went up. Breaking the habit of a life time I got the car recovered the remaining couple of miles home & I replaced the belt when I got a replacement.
Which is better? A second hand OE pump or a new generic pump  :-/ :-/ :-/ :-/
FIGHT!!!!!!  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

I'd go for OE every time.  :y :y :y
Title: Re: cambelt question
Post by: Elite Pete on 01 May 2011, 21:53:24
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Ok then, so what about the CDX I broke last month, the Auxiliary belt tensioner had siezed causing the auxiliary belt to snap, parts of which made itself under the cambelt cover causing the cambelt to jump teeth and bending lots and lots of valves ::) ......

In life, sh1t happens.  ;) The last time my fan belt broke,it .....................er just broke & my temp gauge went up. Breaking the habit of a life time I got the car recovered the remaining couple of miles home & I replaced the belt when I got a replacement.
Which is better? A second hand OE pump or a new generic pump  :-/ :-/ :-/ :-/
FIGHT!!!!!!  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

I'd go for OE every time.  :y :y :y
Ok so how do you know that the one thats in there is OE in the first place, its could be a pattern one, so do you leave it there or pay £70 plus for a OE one :P
Title: Re: cambelt question
Post by: henryd on 01 May 2011, 21:58:57
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Ok then, so what about the CDX I broke last month, the Auxiliary belt tensioner had siezed causing the auxiliary belt to snap, parts of which made itself under the cambelt cover causing the cambelt to jump teeth and bending lots and lots of valves ::) ......

In life, sh1t happens.  ;) The last time my fan belt broke,it .....................er just broke & my temp gauge went up. Breaking the habit of a life time I got the car recovered the remaining couple of miles home & I replaced the belt when I got a replacement.
Which is better? A second hand OE pump or a new generic pump  :-/ :-/ :-/ :-/
FIGHT!!!!!!  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

I'd go for OE every time.  :y :y :y
Ok so how do you know that the one thats in there is OE in the first place, its could be a pattern one, so do you leave it there or pay £70 plus for a OE one :P

anyone for popcorn,this could run...................
Title: Re: cambelt question
Post by: aaronjb on 01 May 2011, 22:00:14
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Ok then, so what about the CDX I broke last month, the Auxiliary belt tensioner had siezed causing the auxiliary belt to snap, parts of which made itself under the cambelt cover causing the cambelt to jump teeth and bending lots and lots of valves ::) ......

In life, sh1t happens.  ;) The last time my fan belt broke,it .....................er just broke & my temp gauge went up. Breaking the habit of a life time I got the car recovered the remaining couple of miles home & I replaced the belt when I got a replacement.
Which is better? A second hand OE pump or a new generic pump  :-/ :-/ :-/ :-/
FIGHT!!!!!!  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

I'd go for OE every time.  :y :y :y
Ok so how do you know that the one thats in there is OE in the first place, its could be a pattern one, so do you leave it there or pay £70 plus for a OE one :P

anyone for popcorn,this could run...................
;D
(http://www.lausd.k12.ca.us/King_Drew_Medical_Magnet/images/SmileyPopcorn.gif)
Title: Re: cambelt question
Post by: Andy B on 01 May 2011, 22:00:52
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Ok then, so what about the CDX I broke last month, the Auxiliary belt tensioner had siezed causing the auxiliary belt to snap, parts of which made itself under the cambelt cover causing the cambelt to jump teeth and bending lots and lots of valves ::) ......

In life, sh1t happens.  ;) The last time my fan belt broke,it .....................er just broke & my temp gauge went up. Breaking the habit of a life time I got the car recovered the remaining couple of miles home & I replaced the belt when I got a replacement.
Which is better? A second hand OE pump or a new generic pump  :-/ :-/ :-/ :-/
FIGHT!!!!!!  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

I'd go for OE every time.  :y :y :y
Ok so how do you know that the one thats in there is OE in the first place, its could be a pattern one, so do you leave it there or pay £70 plus for a OE one :P

cos the last pump that went on was bought on TC before prices went daft. The pump I took off was on the car when I bought it when the car was only 4yr old.
& there wasn't actually owt wrong with it, my leak was an OE HBV & not the water pump as I'd thought.

Note to self Look at the engine to diagnose & not guess where your water loss is.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: cambelt question
Post by: Elite Pete on 01 May 2011, 22:06:56
Thats all good and well, but how many people have owned thier car since the last belt change and can say that the water pump was replaced then and not the belt change before that ;)
Title: Re: cambelt question
Post by: joff on 01 May 2011, 22:10:10
On my first V6 a 2000 3ltr paid the main dealer to fit new came belt(about £350 i think) was not a forum member then :-[ and 4 mths later water pump went on the M4 took the aux belt with it. I will always replace both but that's just me :y
Title: Re: cambelt question
Post by: Andy B on 01 May 2011, 22:18:03
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Thats all good and well, but how many people have owned thier car since the last belt change and can say that the water pump was replaced then and not the belt change before that ;)

As I've said before ...... a lot depends whether you're doing the work yourself, or whether you're paying someone else to do the work. If someone else is on the spanners it's probably cheaper in the longer run while they're there to replace it.  ;)
Title: Re: cambelt question
Post by: alank46 on 02 May 2011, 08:44:57
Surely, the part that needs changing is the auxiliary belt tensioner, not the water pump, after all in the example given it was the tensioner that failed and caused the problem.
Alan
Title: Re: cambelt question
Post by: feeutfo on 02 May 2011, 09:50:12
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Surely, the part that needs changing is the auxiliary belt tensioner, not the water pump, after all in the example given it was the tensioner that failed and caused the problem.
Alan
Seized water pump would have the same effect as it's on the aux belt run. But we could say that could happen with any component on the aux belt run. Are we to change all those as well on each cam belt change? No!

For me the important question is what's the life of the component? So every other cb change makes sense. But then how many water pump failures do we see on here? Never changed a water pump myself, baring always seem ok to me.

Certainly won't be doing mine at 80k. 8-). Although it's due (cb) on time this year, better check actually. :-/