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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: Mr Stud on 03 June 2011, 21:37:23
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just bought the dvd on how to change cambelt on a v6,although not got an omega anymore,but got two gsi vectra's,so thought guide would come in handy...anyway watched dvd and confused,not hard to do :)...when refitting and fitted the top and bottom rollers on dvd set them at 12 and 3 o'clock...now on the how to guides(see links below)i got for the v6 it says "set roller to 12o'clock then further down says "set roller to 9o'clock..also "tensioner pointer should line up in the centre of the segment" where as on dvd it should be on upper edge of guide....
http://www.v6technicians.co.uk/
http://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:AhAg67BGYagJ:www.vvon.co.uk/downloads/Vectra_manuals_and_tech_info/vectra_b_how_to/How_to_replace_x25xe_cambelt.pdf+vectra+camshaft+locking+tool&hl=en&gl=uk&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEEShKaP8AgY2TwjMf4KellkgWLokiF86n_D2dPkRuegP3BCIZeAoaxiB0awEt57ToLOJnhyk19UY54-HjNp0Z8ohdxX5TQYPYboDGFCEFU2t1D27gQGa4jxKC0iDFeCdS0ltBw4Dv&sig=AHIEtbQQfamEqkMkY5uKdJgxhIUw-IAexw
am i reading it all wrong on the guides,or is it all right with dvd and i just not understanding it all.. :-? :-?
don't want to bugger it all up :( :( :(
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Follow the DVD and you can't go far wrong ;) ;)
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The idlers are concentric (except lower one on the later 2.6/3.2 engines)
Basically, position them initially (whilst fitting belt) to the loosest position, which for most is 12 oclock for top, and 9 oclock for bottom.
Once its timed up, the top tends to end up around 3 oclock, and bottom around 12 oclock
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Follow the DVD and you can't go far wrong ;) ;)
Agreed. Follow a single set of instructions and it will avoid confusion.
At the end of the day, as long as you can turn the engine over 2 turns and arrive at the correct timing, you've set the belt tension correctly and torqued up all the fasteners to the correct torque, it is fine. It's not really important how you got there, but the DVD is the definitive guide, IMHO.
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The idlers are concentric (except lower one on the later 2.6/3.2 engines)
Basically, position them initially (whilst fitting belt) to the loosest position, which for most is 12 oclock for top, and 9 oclock for bottom.
Once its timed up, the top tends to end up around 3 oclock, and bottom around 12 oclock
there see confused already,as dvd says fit a 12 and 3,not at 12 and 9 and then it will go to 12 and 3 :-? :-? :) :)...or have i read that wrong as well..aaarrrggghh
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The idlers are concentric .....
They wouldn't be much bloody use if they were concentric. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concentric) Maybe your tensioner might have an influence though ...... ::) ::) ::)
They're ECCENTRIC (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eccentric_(mechanism)) ;) ;) ;)
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;D ;D ;D :-X
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you do set the top idler at 12 o'clock and the lower one at 3 o'clock not sure where you are getting confused mate but don't forget that is the starting positions, they will be in a different position when you have finished.
Hope that helps
daz
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if i were you set at as darth loo says and then post the end results to make sure before firing up but from what i've read he is the master!!!!!!
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if i were you set at as darth loo says and then post the end results to make sure before firing up but from what i've read he is the master!!!!!!
although very nice of you, but I am apprentise to The Master Mr. DTM ;)
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you do set the top idler at 12 o'clock and the lower one at 3 o'clock not sure where you are getting confused mate but don't forget that is the starting positions, they will be in a different position when you have finished.
Hope that helps
daz
confused beacause that what it says on dvd but how to says"Set top roller so arrow is at just before 9 o clock & bottom roller at around 12 o clock (take up slack in belt) and nip up E12 bolt securing with 30 mm ring spanner ring spanner"
thanks,looks like 12 and 3 it is then ;D ;D
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I will have a look at the how too, if like you say its wrong I will ask an Adult (admin) to alter it.
Thanks for bringing it to our attention
daz :y
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just bought the dvd on how to change cambelt on a v6,although not got an omega anymore,but got two gsi vectra's,so thought guide would come in handy...anyway watched dvd and confused,not hard to do :)...when refitting and fitted the top and bottom rollers on dvd set them at 12 and 3 o'clock...now on the how to guides(see links below)i got for the v6 it says "set roller to 12o'clock then further down says "set roller to 9o'clock..also "tensioner pointer should line up in the centre of the segment" where as on dvd it should be on upper edge of guide....
http://www.v6technicians.co.uk/
http://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:AhAg67BGYagJ:www.vvon.co.uk/downloads/Vectra_manuals_and_tech_info/vectra_b_how_to/How_to_replace_x25xe_cambelt.pdf+vectra+camshaft+locking+tool&hl=en&gl=uk&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEEShKaP8AgY2TwjMf4KellkgWLokiF86n_D2dPkRuegP3BCIZeAoaxiB0awEt57ToLOJnhyk19UY54-HjNp0Z8ohdxX5TQYPYboDGFCEFU2t1D27gQGa4jxKC0iDFeCdS0ltBw4Dv&sig=AHIEtbQQfamEqkMkY5uKdJgxhIUw-IAexw
am i reading it all wrong on the guides,or is it all right with dvd and i just not understanding it all.. :-? :-?
don't want to bugger it all up :( :( :(
as far as i can see with my phone none of the links you have pasted above are anything to do with The Forum How Too's.
Perhaps you should do it properly by following the Forum DVD being done by someone who actually knows what they are talking about mate...
daz
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never said the links was how to's which was on the forum,just said i had how to's,which i found before the dvd, about changing the belt and noticed it wrong to dvd so wanted to know what right,although should have realised the dvd will always be right on here:)...even though one how to is by two v6 specialist,with one working at vauxhall for years :) :) :)
thanks for all your help anyway :y :y
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The amount of times we on here have heard about these Vauxhall Specialists who quite honestly don't know their arse from their elbow is untrue mate.
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as Daz says, follow the dvd, ive done a few now from learning from the dvd & its gone right every time. :y