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Title: high level/3Rd brake light
Post by: Jay w on 31 January 2008, 16:59:52
if a car has one fitted is there a legal requirement to retain it?

if i keep the Elite then i am looking at adding a few bits and bobs to both freshen it up and improve looks
Title: Re: high level/3Rd brake light
Post by: Danny on 31 January 2008, 18:17:42
if a 3rd brake light is fitted and connected, it needs to be working to pass an MOT

my brother bought an aftermarket spoiler for his Lex, it has the brakelight but his car already has the 3rd brakelight, so he plans to remove the one on the spoiler and blank it out and spray over it
Title: Re: high level/3Rd brake light
Post by: miggy on 31 January 2008, 18:37:26
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if a car has one fitted is there a legal requirement to retain it?

if i keep the Elite then i am looking at adding a few bits and bobs to both freshen it up and improve looks

Why would you remove it, are you thinking of fitting one of those spoilers that sits flush at the top of the rear window, i have seen these and they look pretty good.
Title: Re: high level/3Rd brake light
Post by: Jay w on 31 January 2008, 20:04:26
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if a car has one fitted is there a legal requirement to retain it?

if i keep the Elite then i am looking at adding a few bits and bobs to both freshen it up and improve looks

Why would you remove it, are you thinking of fitting one of those spoilers that sits flush at the top of the rear window, i have seen these and they look pretty good.

that's the plan,

whilst the bumper is being repainted as well as one of the door bottoms (tiny bit of bubbling appearing) i thought about doing something subtle.

looking on fleabay i saw a company who sell them and also black grilles, for both, including shipping it comes out at £99.
but looking at the rear brake light this would cover it and i don't want to get into a situation where i have to pull off the spoiler as it will be bonded onto the glass
Title: Re: high level/3Rd brake light
Post by: markey mark on 31 January 2008, 20:38:54
if the light is not there no fail on test bud ! but if it fitted it must be working !! :y
Title: Re: high level/3Rd brake light
Post by: Jay w on 31 January 2008, 22:57:54
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if the light is not there no fail on test bud ! but if it fitted it must be working !! :y

would disconnecting it affect the check control?
Title: Re: high level/3Rd brake light
Post by: MikeDundee on 01 February 2008, 07:03:22
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if a car has one fitted is there a legal requirement to retain it?

if i keep the Elite then i am looking at adding a few bits and bobs to both freshen it up and improve looks

Why would you remove it, are you thinking of fitting one of those spoilers that sits flush at the top of the rear window, i have seen these and they look pretty good.

that's the plan,

whilst the bumper is being repainted as well as one of the door bottoms (tiny bit of bubbling appearing) i thought about doing something subtle.

looking on fleabay i saw a company who sell them and also black grilles, for both, including shipping it comes out at £99.
but looking at the rear brake light this would cover it and i don't want to get into a situation where i have to pull off the spoiler as it will be bonded onto the glass

Why don't you go for a Stenmetz roof spoiler? :y....oops just had a look and they are no longer available :-/

Title: Re: high level/3Rd brake light
Post by: Dazzler on 01 February 2008, 11:03:39
if third light does not work it will NOT fail the MOT as there is no reqirement to have one. You may get an advisory but thats it ;)
Title: Re: high level/3Rd brake light
Post by: hotel21 on 01 February 2008, 12:21:25
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if third light does not work it will NOT fail the MOT as there is no reqirement to have one. You may get an advisory but thats it ;)

What about the 'if its fitted it has to work' thing??   :-/
Title: Re: high level/3Rd brake light
Post by: markey mark on 01 February 2008, 14:52:24
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if the light is not there no fail on test bud ! but if it fitted it must be working !! :y

would disconnecting it affect the check control?

 no mate its led so has no effect on check control jay !! :y
Title: Re: high level/3Rd brake light
Post by: Andy B on 01 February 2008, 16:08:31
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if third light does not work it will NOT fail the MOT as there is no reqirement to have one. You may get an advisory but thats it ;)

What about the 'if its fitted it has to work' thing??   :-/
Probably. I don't know if things have changed but rear number plate lights didn't have to be fitted - a mate used to have a Datsun something SSS that didn't have one from the factory - but they ahd to work if fitted.
Title: Re: high level/3Rd brake light
Post by: Jay w on 01 February 2008, 17:43:58
I'm thinking of removing it completely.

The spoiler comes down enough of the window to ensure that when stood at the back of the car you wouldn't see that there was one supposed to be fitted
Title: Re: high level/3Rd brake light
Post by: Entwood on 01 February 2008, 17:50:43
When mine had a single element failed my mechanic took the whole thing out for the MOT, put it back after... :)

It passed fine as no light fitted, if it's there it has to work properly .. but it doesn't have to be there .. if you get my drift !!!

:)
Title: Re: high level/3Rd brake light
Post by: Dazzler on 01 February 2008, 18:04:55
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if third light does not work it will NOT fail the MOT as there is no reqirement to have one. You may get an advisory but thats it ;)

What about the 'if its fitted it has to work' thing??   :-/
Its a bit like front fogs, not normally tested but are fitted. They only check what they have to ;)
Side repeaters is something that if fitted must work, but i don,t make the rules ::)
Title: Re: high level/3Rd brake light
Post by: Jay w on 01 February 2008, 18:16:55
if i get the spoiler then i will go down the route of taking it out, that way they can't fail something that isn't there  ;)
Title: Re: high level/3Rd brake light
Post by: Dazzler on 01 February 2008, 18:52:11
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if i get the spoiler then i will go down the route of taking it out, that way they can't fail something that isn't there  ;)
Very true, but it won,t anyway ;)