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Title: Black backed head lights.
Post by: Davey on 04 February 2008, 15:55:44
Has anyone ever 'back blacked' their head lights on an omega? It looks really good on other models (astra etc) and I'm very tempted to do it as my chromey front lights stick out like a sore thumb on my dark green omega..

I've seen it done on other marques.. Just a case of splitting the head light, masking off the important reflective bits an dpainting the rest matt black.
Title: Re: Black backed head lights.
Post by: Jay w on 04 February 2008, 16:02:54
i would imagine it is possible, however if you search you will find that there are some advertised on Ebay.

These are LHD units and so will not be suitable for the uk
Title: Re: Black backed head lights.
Post by: Davey on 04 February 2008, 16:12:09
Cheers ) Just had a search and these are exactly what I was thinking of doing:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VAUXHALL-OMEGA-BLACK-PROJECTOR-HEADLIGHT-SET-94-99_W0QQitemZ150212806294QQihZ005QQcategoryZ23009QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Looks pretty damn good :D
Title: Re: Black backed head lights.
Post by: Jay w on 04 February 2008, 16:51:38
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Cheers ) Just had a search and these are exactly what I was thinking of doing:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VAUXHALL-OMEGA-BLACK-PROJECTOR-HEADLIGHT-SET-94-99_W0QQitemZ150212806294QQihZ005QQcategoryZ23009QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Looks pretty damn good :D

so long as you don't paint any area that is supposed to be reflective for the purpose of lighting then you shouldn't have an issue.

I did it to headlamps on a Zafira many years ago, because the headlamp lenses were  bonded to the body i had to shoven them in the over, 200 degrees for 5 mins at a time until the bonding goo became loose enough to allow the usits to be split  ;) missus went mental when she saw two headlamps in the over  ;D


Title: Re: Black backed head lights.
Post by: TheBoy on 04 February 2008, 18:18:39
OK with projectors.  Ensure they are UK RHD E marked.  Many sellers are selling LHD ones that will fail MOT.  Any mention of DOT approved means LHD (DOT is American).  Despite what sellers say, the levers do NOT adjust LHD to RHD.

I have yet to see UK spec black ones.
Title: Re: Black backed head lights.
Post by: Crazydad on 04 February 2008, 19:28:07
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OK with projectors.  Ensure they are UK RHD E marked.  Many sellers are selling LHD ones that will fail MOT.  Any mention of DOT approved means LHD (DOT is American).  Despite what sellers say, the levers do NOT adjust LHD to RHD.

I have yet to see UK spec black ones.
I have been searching the web for RHD black projectors,for about a year now, but to no avail. :-/
Title: Re: Black backed head lights.
Post by: CaptainZok on 04 February 2008, 19:30:15
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OK with projectors.  Ensure they are UK RHD E marked.  Many sellers are selling LHD ones that will fail MOT.  Any mention of DOT approved means LHD (DOT is American).  Despite what sellers say, the levers do NOT adjust LHD to RHD.

I have yet to see UK spec black ones.
I have been searching the web for RHD black projectors,for about a year now, but to no avail. :-/
Wouldn't LHD be better you living in Germany and all that.
Title: Re: Black backed head lights.
Post by: Martin_1962 on 04 February 2008, 19:34:59
Ugh black heads :(
Title: Re: Black backed head lights.
Post by: TheBoy on 04 February 2008, 19:45:09
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Ugh black heads :(
Not my cup of tea, but (now I'm a bit calmer than earlier :P) understand accept people like to ruin individualise their cars.  Evryone is different :y
Title: Re: Black backed head lights.
Post by: Davey on 04 February 2008, 19:45:18
Yeah the ones on that auction are LHD.. seller says 'they are LHD but "should" be able to be adusted'.. hmm I think I'll make my own :) I was more intereted in seeing hat they look like to be honest :)

I've seperated lenses before in the past but they have always been glass lenses, im a bit paranoid about trying it on plastic ones.. think I'll buy a spare set and do those  ;D
Title: Re: Black backed head lights.
Post by: TheBoy on 04 February 2008, 19:45:49
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Yeah the ones on that auction are LHD.. seller says 'they are LHD but "should" be able to be adusted'.. hmm I think I'll make my own :) I was more intereted in seeing hat they look like to be honest :)

I've seperated lenses before in the past but they have always been glass lenses, im a bit paranoid about trying it on plastic ones.. think I'll buy a spare set and do those  ;D
They cannot be adjusted.
Title: Re: Black backed head lights.
Post by: TheBoy on 04 February 2008, 19:46:16
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Yeah the ones on that auction are LHD.. seller says 'they are LHD but "should" be able to be adusted'.. hmm I think I'll make my own :) I was more intereted in seeing hat they look like to be honest :)

I've seperated lenses before in the past but they have always been glass lenses, im a bit paranoid about trying it on plastic ones.. think I'll buy a spare set and do those  ;D
They cannot be adjusted.
And if not E marked (and EU standard) are illegal I believe.
Title: Re: Black backed head lights.
Post by: Jim on 04 February 2008, 19:54:14
Found this guy on german ebay selling them. price works out about £110.00 + P&P
http://cgi.ebay.de/DE-SCHEINWERFER-OPEL-OMEGA-B-Bj-94-99-SCHWARZ-KLARGLAS_W0QQitemZ370018942082QQihZ024QQcategoryZ44249QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Title: Re: Black backed head lights.
Post by: Davey on 04 February 2008, 21:38:06
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Found this guy on german ebay selling them. price works out about £110.00 + P&P
http://cgi.ebay.de/DE-SCHEINWERFER-OPEL-OMEGA-B-Bj-94-99-SCHWARZ-KLARGLAS_W0QQitemZ370018942082QQihZ024QQcategoryZ44249QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Those ones are apparently e-marked.. but I guess they are LHD though.
Title: Re: Black backed head lights.
Post by: Jim on 04 February 2008, 21:41:41
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Found this guy on german ebay selling them. price works out about £110.00 + P&P
http://cgi.ebay.de/DE-SCHEINWERFER-OPEL-OMEGA-B-Bj-94-99-SCHWARZ-KLARGLAS_W0QQitemZ370018942082QQihZ024QQcategoryZ44249QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Those ones are apparently e-marked.. but I guess they are LHD though.

Sent him an email, most germans speak and read english :y
Title: Re: Black backed head lights.
Post by: waspy on 04 February 2008, 21:44:54
Wouldn't it be possible to swap the projector lenses?  :-/
Or is everything bonded?
Title: Re: Black backed head lights.
Post by: Davey on 04 February 2008, 21:47:26
Ich Sprechen sehr gut Deutch!  ;)
Title: Re: Black backed head lights.
Post by: Jim on 04 February 2008, 21:48:45
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Wouldn't it be possible to swap the projector lenses?  :-/
Or is everything bonded?
Thats what I was thinking, get a UK RHD set and get the black one's and mix and match the parts to get a set which are UK RHD but have the black part's inside :y
Title: Re: Black backed head lights.
Post by: Jim on 04 February 2008, 21:51:25
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Ich Sprechen sehr gut Deutch!  ;)
I know a little german,

He's about 3ft tall and live's in Munich ;D ;D
Title: Re: Black backed head lights.
Post by: waspy on 04 February 2008, 21:59:11
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Wouldn't it be possible to swap the projector lenses?  :-/
Or is everything bonded?
Thats what I was thinking, get a UK RHD set and get the black one's and mix and match the parts to get a set which are UK RHD but have the black part's inside :y

Hey  :y Great minds & all that  :y
Title: Re: Black backed head lights.
Post by: Jim on 04 February 2008, 22:04:47
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Wouldn't it be possible to swap the projector lenses?  :-/
Or is everything bonded?
Thats what I was thinking, get a UK RHD set and get the black one's and mix and match the parts to get a set which are UK RHD but have the black part's inside :y

Hey  :y Great minds & all that  :y
I might just do it, I have a black 1998 mv6 with xenon lights and I would like to fit the black lights so I think the only way to do it would to mix and match the parts 8-)
Title: Re: Black backed head lights.
Post by: Davey on 05 February 2008, 08:37:37
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Wouldn't it be possible to swap the projector lenses?  :-/
Or is everything bonded?
Thats what I was thinking, get a UK RHD set and get the black one's and mix and match the parts to get a set which are UK RHD but have the black part's inside :y

Surely its a million times simpler and less destructive to paint some standard lights with matt black?  8-)
Title: Re: Black backed head lights.
Post by: Jim on 05 February 2008, 09:38:46
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Wouldn't it be possible to swap the projector lenses?  :-/
Or is everything bonded?
Thats what I was thinking, get a UK RHD set and get the black one's and mix and match the parts to get a set which are UK RHD but have the black part's inside :y

Surely its a million times simpler and less destructive to paint some standard lights with matt black?  8-)
Probadly is, but what if the paint after a while starts to crack or peel
Title: Re: Black backed head lights.
Post by: Davey on 05 February 2008, 10:02:39
Will be fine if prepped up properly :)
Title: Re: Black backed head lights.
Post by: Jim on 05 February 2008, 10:21:58
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Will be fine if prepped up properly :)
Ok, you do yours first ;)
Title: Re: Black backed head lights.
Post by: Davey on 05 February 2008, 10:28:45
I'm gonna wait for a cheap set to come up on ebay first lol :D
Title: Re: Black backed head lights.
Post by: Jim on 05 February 2008, 10:41:05
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I'm gonna wait for a cheap set to come up on ebay first lol :D
Just watch out, I've bought a few sets of projector omega lights on ebay just to find out that the adjuster inside the light is broken, it's a commom fault with omega projector headlights. :y
Title: Re: Black backed head lights.
Post by: Davey on 05 February 2008, 10:55:38
Never had that problem on any of my Omegas, must have been lucky :)
Title: Re: Black backed head lights.
Post by: Martin_1962 on 05 February 2008, 11:23:25
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Ugh black heads :(
Not my cup of tea, but (now I'm a bit calmer than earlier :P) understand accept people like to ruin individualise their cars.  Evryone is different :y


Read it more carefully - it is a joke!
Title: Re: Black backed head lights.
Post by: Jay w on 05 February 2008, 11:31:27
When i did the Zafira ones they never peeled or cracked...

the trick is to put a couple of dust coats on first, i used grey primer, once i had that on i then slowly built up the coats of paint.

Mine had been done for 2 years when i sold it and the lamps still looked factory finished.

Before each coat i also stuck the item back in the oven for a few mins in order to heat it up, this ensured a better bond with the paint

perfect preparation and all that........ :y
Title: Re: Black backed head lights.
Post by: Jim on 05 February 2008, 11:36:27
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When i did the Zafira ones they never peeled or cracked...

the trick is to put a couple of dust coats on first, i used grey primer, once i had that on i then slowly built up the coats of paint.

Mine had been done for 2 years when i sold it and the lamps still looked factory finished.

Before each coat i also stuck the item back in the oven for a few mins in order to heat it up, this ensured a better bond with the paint

perfect preparation and all that........ :y
As i said earlier I have a black Mv6 with xenon's so I'd be intrested fitting/painting the black look headlights to that
Title: Re: Black backed head lights.
Post by: Gaffers on 06 February 2008, 19:51:47
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Yeah the ones on that auction are LHD.. seller says 'they are LHD but "should" be able to be adusted'.. hmm I think I'll make my own :) I was more intereted in seeing hat they look like to be honest :)

I've seperated lenses before in the past but they have always been glass lenses, im a bit paranoid about trying it on plastic ones.. think I'll buy a spare set and do those  ;D
They cannot be adjusted.
...and you cant get the glass plastic lenses separately.  I tried  :'(