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Title: Omega immobiliser system - cat1 / cat2 or other?
Post by: wakeyomega on 17 March 2008, 11:06:30: Hi
Just renewing my insurance and never did understand this question re alarms on confused.com. It asks if it is a standard fit CAT1 or standard fit CAT2. Anyone know?
(mines an Omega Elite estate, facelift)

Ta Pat
Title: Re: Omega immobiliser system - cat1 / cat2 or other?
Post by: Dave DND on 17 March 2008, 11:10:21: Any vehicle sold in the UK after 1997 had to have a Cat2 fitted by law, and the upgrade to Cat 1 was offered as an optional upgrade.

Difficult to comment on your vehicle without a few more specifics, although I`m sure someone else will be along with some Omega info.
Title: Re: Omega immobiliser system - cat1 / cat2 or other?
Post by: Kevin Wood on 17 March 2008, 11:22:08: From what I can tell, the Omega system is compliant with cat 1 if it includes the alarm (assuming the power sounder is working!) or cat 2 if it's just an immobiliser. Whether it's got Thatcham approval is another matter but it's functionally equivalent:

Cat 1:
   * Alarm
   Perimeter detection
   Ignition detection
   Passenger compartment movement detection
   Inclination detection (Motorcycle only)
   Audible warning with battery back-up power supply
   * Immobiliser
   Passively set
   Isolates a minimum of two operating circuits or systems, or a minimum of one operationally relevant vehicle control unit with coded intervention

Cat 2:

   * Immobiliser
   Passively set
   Isolates a minimum of two operating circuits or systems, or a minimum of one operationally relevant vehicle control unit with coded intervention

Check out http://www.thatcham.org for more details.

Kevin
Title: Re: Omega immobiliser system - cat1 / cat2 or other?
Post by: wakeyomega on 17 March 2008, 11:32:56: Thanks Kevin and Dave for rapid responses.

From Kevins response I think I must be Cat 2 as I have everything in the CAT 1 list other than 'Perimiter Detection' (as far as I know!)

Regards Pat
Title: Re: Omega immobiliser system - cat1 / cat2 or other?
Post by: Kevin Wood on 17 March 2008, 11:47:23: Perimeter detection is just switches on the doors, boot and bonnet, IIRC, so a factory alarm has them.

Kevin
Title: Re: Omega immobiliser system - cat1 / cat2 or other?
Post by: Dave DND on 17 March 2008, 12:27:20: Quote
Cat 1:
   * Alarm
   Perimeter detection
   Ignition detection
   Passenger compartment movement detection
   Inclination detection (Motorcycle only)
   Audible warning with battery back-up power supply
   * Immobiliser
   Passively set
   Isolates a minimum of two operating circuits or systems, or a minimum of one operationally relevant vehicle control unit with coded intervention

Yes, but this also must be from a Thatcham approved system and fitted in accordance with the MIRRC guidelines by an approved and certified fitter - what is listed is some of the features of an alarm, not what makes it Thatcham approved.

:y
Title: Re: Omega immobiliser system - cat1 / cat2 or other?
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 17 March 2008, 23:11:22: The Omega alarm/immobiliser i recognised by Thatcham as meeting the Cat 1/2 requirements.

But, your insurer will already know this and will be applying the discount anyway.
Title: Re: Omega immobiliser system - cat1 / cat2 or other?
Post by: Kevin Wood on 18 March 2008, 10:49:25: But, your insurer will already know this and will be applying the discount anyway.
[size=8]I wonder if they know that most Omega's power sounders have now died? :-X[/size]

Kevin
Title: Re: Omega immobiliser system - cat1 / cat2 or other?
Post by: Debs. on 18 March 2008, 12:51:45: Quote
[size=8]I wonder if they know that most Omega's power sounders have now died? :-X[/size]

Kevin
......not dead; `just resting! ;)
Title: Re: Omega immobiliser system - cat1 / cat2 or other?
Post by: Kevin Wood on 18 March 2008, 16:05:19: Quote
Quote
[size=8]I wonder if they know that most Omega's power sounders have now died? :-X[/size]

Kevin
......not dead; `just resting! ;)

Yes, but mine's resting in several pieces on my workbench. :-X I doubt it will ever wake up. :'(

Kevin
Title: Re: Omega immobiliser system - cat1 / cat2 or other?
Post by: davlad22 on 19 March 2008, 16:00:20: Get a new one bought and clear your workbench you tight get! ;D ;)
Title: Re: Omega immobiliser system - cat1 / cat2 or other?
Post by: tmx on 20 March 2008, 07:22:47: mine works! and my mig also has a tracker according to norwich union :S