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Omega Help Area => Omega Electrical and Audio Help => Topic started by: Vamps on 02 June 2008, 14:37:15

Title: Can a Battery be 'refreshed'
Post by: Vamps on 02 June 2008, 14:37:15
I seem to think I have heard that a car battery can be 'refreshed' or is this wishful thinking and should I just go to Halfords. :)
Title: Re: Can a Battery be 'refreshed'
Post by: Kevin Wood on 02 June 2008, 14:50:39
There are tablets called "Bat-aid" that can be dropped into the cells - if you can get at them on a maintenance free battery. If it's already giving problems I'd say the best course of action is to change it though. It's unlikely that you'd do anything more than to prolong the moment when it lets you down - when you're least expecting it.

Kevin
Title: Re: Can a Battery be 'refreshed'
Post by: Vamps on 02 June 2008, 15:02:53
Thanks, was thinking that. Car has been stood since November and having given it 24hrs charge it was still flat, jumped it with a power pack but battery still flat after being left ticking over for ages and a quick run around the block.
Title: Re: Can a Battery be 'refreshed'
Post by: Entwood on 02 June 2008, 15:28:19
Have a read here .. it might be salvageable ... but I have my doubts .. :(

its probably full of sulfation

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In fact 80% of all battery failure is related to sulfation build-up. This build up occurs when the sulfur molecules in the electrolyte (battery acid) become so deeply discharged that they begin to coat the battery's lead plates. Before long the plates become so coated that the battery dies. The causes of sulfation are numerous.

http://www.batterystuff.com/tutorial_battery.html

and

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sulfation
Title: Re: Can a Battery be 'refreshed'
Post by: Kevin Wood on 02 June 2008, 15:42:16
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Thanks, was thinking that. Car has been stood since November and having given it 24hrs charge it was still flat, jumped it with a power pack but battery still flat after being left ticking over for ages and a quick run around the block.

Sounds like you might as well get a new one, TBH. The one thing that'll kill a battery is to leave it discharged long-term.

Kevin
Title: Re: Can a Battery be 'refreshed'
Post by: TheBoy on 02 June 2008, 18:55:21
If you have access to TC, buy a new one from dealer :)
Title: Re: Can a Battery be 'refreshed'
Post by: zirk on 02 June 2008, 19:56:57
Ive managed to salvage quiet a few 'so called dead' Battery's.

Trickle charge them for about 2 weeks (2 to 3 amps) then leave them in the cold for a couple of day's before testing them.

Ive supprised myself how many come back to life!.
Title: Re: Can a Battery be 'refreshed'
Post by: Kevin Wood on 03 June 2008, 10:13:19
You can also use a battery conditioner. A good one will charge the battery but will also discharge it with regular spikes of high current but short duration, and also leave it to rest for periods in between. It's long periods of charging or resting with no discharge that doesn't do them much good, so a regular pulse of current, even if only for a millisecond or so, will keep them in good condition without discharging them too fast.

Kevin
Title: Re: Can a Battery be 'refreshed'
Post by: Bandit127 on 20 July 2008, 11:11:27
There are two ways to flatten a battery in my experience. One is with high current for a short time (starter motor, lights left on). This will leave the battery with 11(ish) volts but unable to supply current.

The other way is with a low current (milliamps) draw over weeks or months. This is when significant sulfation happens. Unfortunately alarms are ideal for this purpose. I haven't been able to bring back a battery that had less than 10.5V showing. This sounds like your battery IMO.

I dont know what happens with a completely disconnected battery but I have never had a problem recharging one after extended periods.

Impractical maybe, but a trickle charger solves the alarm problem.


Title: Re: Can a Battery be 'refreshed'
Post by: dbug on 20 July 2008, 16:01:55
Battery for 2.5V6 on TC around £40. - just bought one. :y
2 Lit one may be cheaper
Title: Re: Can a Battery be 'refreshed'
Post by: dbug on 20 July 2008, 17:14:44
For 2.0/2.2Lit - 55 amp/hr  -  Vx Part Nş19003129 - TC price £36.35  :y
Title: Re: Can a Battery be 'refreshed'
Post by: davlad22 on 21 July 2008, 14:01:14
I'd be tempted to get a fatter one for the little more it costs. The omega is a big car with losts of electrical gizmos. 65 or 75ah only around £55-60. Cheap even without trade card.
Title: Re: Can a Battery be 'refreshed'
Post by: Vamps on 22 July 2008, 00:48:51
All sorted thanks. :y