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Omega Help Area => Omega Electrical and Audio Help => Topic started by: Cumbria on 19 September 2008, 16:02:21

Title: Fitting carin sat nav.
Post by: Cumbria on 19 September 2008, 16:02:21
Fitted carin sat nav today. No power getting to it only 5 wires in male conector 6 in female conector. There is a loose red wire though could this be  the live wire thats pulled out of the male conector if so can i just splice it into the female red wire with scotchlock. Thanks.
Title: Re: Fitting carin sat nav.
Post by: TheBoy on 19 September 2008, 16:12:19
Yes, that adds to missing connector.  Std pins from radio are ideal (Most car audio shops will sell, as will Dave DND).
Title: Re: Fitting carin sat nav.
Post by: Cumbria on 19 September 2008, 16:17:47
Would the pin just solder on to the red wire tha push back into male conector. Would halfords sell them.
Title: Re: Fitting carin sat nav.
Post by: TheBoy on 19 September 2008, 16:26:48
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Would the pin just solder on to the red wire tha push back into male conector. Would halfords sell them.
Not sure Hellfrauds would sell.  Craplins might, as would any car audio place...
Title: Re: Fitting carin sat nav.
Post by: Cumbria on 20 September 2008, 18:24:24
Sat Nav now working with brown lead atached to courtesy light as Jules sugests for testing purposes. But when i conect it to the brown wire on the 6 pin plug it doesnt could i just screw a hole behind  the kick panel and put a self tapper in to earth it. Also wheres the best place to get an upto date disc & updated firmware disc. Thanks.
Title: Re: Fitting carin sat nav.
Post by: TheBoy on 20 September 2008, 19:56:41
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Sat Nav now working with brown lead atached to courtesy light as Jules sugests for testing purposes. But when i conect it to the brown wire on the 6 pin plug it doesnt could i just screw a hole behind  the kick panel and put a self tapper in to earth it. Also wheres the best place to get an upto date disc & updated firmware disc. Thanks.
I used a 0v stud up above the kick panel on both of mine.

Re firmware, what hardware is yours (from System Info menu), I have v2.3 for SY581.

For maps, try either dealer, or Navteq, quoting exactly the model you have.
Title: Re: Fitting carin sat nav.
Post by: Cumbria on 20 September 2008, 22:13:00
Its sys581 what difference does v2.3 make.
Title: Re: Fitting carin sat nav.
Post by: TheBoy on 20 September 2008, 22:18:42
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Its sys581 what difference does v2.3 make.
What ver you running now?
Title: Re: Fitting carin sat nav.
Post by: Cumbria on 20 September 2008, 22:24:31
How do i check what version do i just go into system info.
Title: Re: Fitting carin sat nav.
Post by: TheBoy on 20 September 2008, 22:27:24
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How do i check what version do i just go into system info.
yup, its the SW line
Title: Re: Fitting carin sat nav.
Post by: Cumbria on 20 September 2008, 22:30:22
Cheers TB will let you know tomorow.
Title: Re: Fitting carin sat nav.
Post by: Cumbria on 21 September 2008, 18:17:10
Ident: NO: 581/75
HW ID: 0105
SW ID: 0200
PROD DATE: 97/44

ERROR STORE
CODE 1
COUNTS 3
TYPE:  HW FAILURE

READ EXTERNAL
SPEED PULSES: 0
DIRECTION: REV

Do these numbers sound right to you. Thanks.
Title: Re: Fitting carin sat nav.
Post by: TheBoy on 21 September 2008, 20:00:40
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Ident: NO: 581/75
HW ID: 0105
SW ID: 0200
PROD DATE: 97/44

ERROR STORE
CODE 1
COUNTS 3
TYPE:  HW FAILURE

READ EXTERNAL
SPEED PULSES: 0
DIRECTION: REV

Do these numbers sound right to you. Thanks.
Running v2.0 firmware then.

The hardware failures are worrying.

Updating to v2.3 firmware, as far as I can see, offers one new feature - it prepopulates the town when entering destination.
Title: Re: Fitting carin sat nav.
Post by: Cumbria on 21 September 2008, 22:59:37
How much to update to v2.3 roughly. How can i sort out the hard ware problem does it need a new brain. Seems to work ok.
Title: Re: Fitting carin sat nav.
Post by: TheBoy on 22 September 2008, 07:59:13
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How much to update to v2.3 roughly. How can i sort out the hard ware problem does it need a new brain. Seems to work ok.
The update to firmware v2.3 used to be done by dealers, but apparently they can no longer get the update disk.  That and the fact that nobody appears to support this system (Philips sold their automotive arm to Siemens, who sold to VDO, and who have just recently sold to someone else (name escapes me)) means that I guess its OK to provide the firmware.  Unless anyone knows different.

So will cost you 1 blank CD, and 10mins of your time.


The hardware error may be due to using CDRs for map disk - does it occasionally spit the disk out?