Omega Owners Forum
Omega Help Area => Omega Electrical and Audio Help => Topic started by: sev on 07 October 2008, 17:45:32
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Curtesy of the gentleman that is iLoveMyElite I'm soon to be the proud owner of a set of HID headlamps for my pre-facelift old girl.
I'd like to ask, other than the headlamp washer arrangement and the levelling sensors on the suspension arms what wiring will I need to connect up to get them to work?
I'm going to scrutinise the wiring diagrams, as the new FAI front wishbones I have can accept the level sensor - however, it's not first on my list of priorities.
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To get the headlights to work you plug them in, will have full beam and sidelights...to get the HID bulbs working, you just need to connect the yellow and brown wires on the HID's to the exisiting yellow and brown wires on the current loom (pretty sure I'm right)
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To get the headlights to work you plug them in..
No S**t !?! ;D
Thanks MutantCav, :y
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Right, today I received my headlamps.
One question....
I can't see any ballast packs on them, is this internal?
How does one tell the difference?
(OH, the glass has come up a treat, so may post a how-to if anyone is interested!)
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The ballast packs are external...very obvious silver boxes bolted on to the bottom of the headlights by a black bracket...
Rather essential to these lights and the plug for the HID bulb runs out of the ballast pack too...
Does it have the HID bulb in?? Might be worth getting a pic up of the back of the unit...
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Right here are the pictures of the front and the underside:
front:
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo249/sev1972/PICT0001.jpg)
Underside:
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo249/sev1972/PICT0002.jpg)
Bearing in mind that on the original sale picture on this forum it advertised them as ELITE HID Xenon headlamps.
If they are just projectors it's my fault for not asking the right questions to start with I suppose.
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Can we see the back of the lamps?
But I dont think there HID's...
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look like the standard projector units to me.. not hard to convert though
unless the 3/4 rails with two bolt holes/ screwholes at the very front is for the ballast pack which has been taken off for some reason?
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look like the standard projector units to me.. not hard to convert though
unless the 3/4 rails with two bolt holes/ screwholes at the very front is for the ballast pack which has been taken off for some reason?
Not legally it can't - the projector lenses haven't been certified for HID use. Thats ignoring the washers and levelling.
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Bearing in mind that on the original sale picture on this forum it advertised them as ELITE HID Xenon headlamps.
If they are just projectors it's my fault for not asking the right questions to start with I suppose.
I disagree...if the post specifically says they are HID and these are projector headlights then the post is wrong and what you have is not what was advertised...HID stands for High Intensity Gas Discharge namely the bulbs themselves...and projectors arent HID's...
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Trouble is a lot of folks think ALL projectors are HID ... don't know/understand the difference as externally they look the same .. :(
So could be a genuine error rather than mis-selling .. but then again could be someone "trying it on" .. the reaction to sending them back for a refund will soon tell you ..
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Trouble is a lot of folks think ALL projectors are HID ... don't know/understand the difference as externally they look the same .. :(
So could be a genuine error rather than mis-selling .. but then again could be someone "trying it on" .. the reaction to sending them back for a refund will soon tell you ..
Totally agree...most likely a genuine error on behalf of the seller and tbh I'm sure this will be the case for I Love My Elite as he seems like a very genuine guy...also (assuming the lights came off the car he stripped) it was a 98 elite and should have had HID's...
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Here Was the advert thread... I'd based the purchase on the second one down.
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1219863570
and the header dies read:
Xenons/HIDS including all the bits that go with em
i'll get a photo of the back of the headlamps and post it up.
Sorry to sound a little pissed about this, but I turned down a set of projectors at half the proce from another member on here who i've bought from before on the basis that these were HID's. :(
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There standard projectors, you can tell by the rubber covers and level motor which are just visable in the picture
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There standard projectors, you can tell by the rubber covers and level motor which are just visable in the picture
Thanks Mark, I feared as much.
Here's the view from behind in any case...
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo249/sev1972/PICT0004.jpg)
bugger :'(
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Well, it would seem that the error was totally unintentional.
ILovemyElite like many of us on here got confused and saw Xenon and HID as being the same thing. Either way we've sorted this out now, and looking through my pm's he's matched the procve which I was offerred a set of projector lamps from another sterling bloke on here.
Thinking about it, it's probably the same as an aircraft or automotive hydraulics engineer getting the raging hump because that's what plumbers call themselves as well!
I know that not so long ago I had to explain to a guy at work why Xenon bulbs were not the same as HID, and given that the lamps outwardly look the same, perhaps it's such an easy mistake to make if you don't know about balast packs etc.
Anyway, the matter is now sorted, and I have to say most amiably and amicably which says alot about the character of the seller. :y
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Well, it would seem that the error was totally unintentional.
ILovemyElite like many of us on here got confused and saw Xenon and HID as being the same thing. Either way we've sorted this out now, and looking through my pm's he's matched the procve which I was offerred a set of projector lamps from another sterling bloke on here.
Thinking about it, it's probably the same as an aircraft or automotive hydraulics engineer getting the raging hump because that's what plumbers call themselves as well!
I know that not so long ago I had to explain to a guy at work why Xenon bulbs were not the same as HID, and given that the lamps outwardly look the same, perhaps it's such an easy mistake to make if you don't know about balast packs etc.
Anyway, the matter is now sorted, and I have to say most amiably and amicably which says alot about the character of the seller. :y
just to add to this, was a genuine mistake, the lamps look exactly the same as the ones on my elite, and the year and model of the car they came from suggests they should have been the same. having never taken mine out i didnt know that these lamps were supposed to have extra bits underneath... certainly wasn't trying to mislead which is why i put a pic of the items up next to the sale description.
anyway, as sev says, alls well that ends well, and at least its highlighted the difference between the different types of lights for those of us that didnt know before!!
:y
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you learn something new each day so be r8... i learn lots of things asking questions on here and other forums
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Definitely an understandable mistake, the number of times people spout out HID or Xenon for projectors its bound to confuse people...the projectors simply have an H1 bulb for the main light...whereas the HID's have a D2S bulb which is powered by a ballast pack to produce a very high intensity Xenon gas discharge
And as said, the car the lights came out of should have had the HID lights...someone must have downgraded them at some point due to cost of replacing them if they fail...
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you can actually get 100watt bulbs in h1 apposed to the standard 55watt i think they are lol.
might be getting some :P
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I think they are a) illegal and b) can melt your wiring...
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you can actually get 100watt bulbs in h1 apposed to the standard 55watt i think they are lol.
might be getting some :P
Got some in the mondeo...
The headlamp 100w's are great - amazing light out put and ilegal as hell - done a year on them
had some in the fog lamps for 7 minutes... the melted the housing and lens!
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you can actually get 100watt bulbs in h1 apposed to the standard 55watt i think they are lol.
might be getting some :P
I used to have them in the main beam of my Senator to try to make up for the lack of light. I never had problem with the Senator ,but I'd be dubious about fitting them to the plastic lensed Omega. :-/ :y
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If your going on the illegal side...might as well fit some proper HID's and be done with it...no worries about things melting and probably less illegal...technically...
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lmao! i never said im going to drive and use illegal headlight bulbs on the public highway so im ok ;)
have you got some hids and the ballast pack chris :P ?
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Yes mate I have some...about 4 sets lol
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ok i'll have to have a nosey when i pop up to pick up some stuff :y